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BigBlox: on the comments
BigBlox: BitBet Mod 03-03-14 at 07:38 It has to be a coin, not a scam. Aurora is a scam, not a coin.
BigBlox: the site says the bets are resolved hours after, if i bet on the 3rd and it was resolved today, then isnt that automatically legit?
BingoBoingo: I believe that point had been mentioned here before...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Of course this is the SEC
kakobrekla: ok so what does an email help to prove exactly?
BigBlox: i mean the bet showed up on the ledger, then the next day on the 4th i emailed, does that count or can i show you an email with the time and date?
BigBlox: oh before, i have shots of the time after it passed, how can i get that?
ThickAsThieves: "The Fed is using curent exchange rates (3/3/14) to say investors were defrauded of $149 million"
BigBlox: i took a screen shot to show my friend :)
kakobrekla: then provide the necessary evidence that aurora indeed aurora had not yet crossed litecoin mkt cap at 03-03-14 05:55 (it doesnt matter when you send it, it matters when you are confirmed)
BigBlox: i mean i'm glad i got my refund, not trying to be a drama queen, but i was surprised i didnt win since i was the one asking, since the 3rd
BigBlox: i actually didnt know if it was going to but i believed in aurora from the get go so i was pretty sure :)
BigBlox: i sent it before aurora beat litecoin, then i wrote to ask if they were resolving it
BingoBoingo: BigBlox: Yeah, you bet after things were know it seems, but before they had yet to be resolved. Tis a dangerous time to bet
BigBlox: mine is the last one, on the 3rd for .08
mike_c: what was your bet? link to it
BigBlox: and it was resolved today
BigBlox: heres the date: 03-03-14 05:55
kakobrekla: time closing != time when result is known
Duffer1: perhaps you tried to send btc after the result was known but bet wasn't closed yet
kakobrekla: which bet is that can you give a link pointing to a bet in the list of accepted bets
BigBlox: k, well basically i entered the altcoin bet, that was to overtake litecoin, i said yes, i emailed and was told it was a scam, i said i didnt agree, specifically said i didnt want to cancel my bet, and it was still cancelled
kakobrekla: perhaps, or maybe someone else will be able to help
BigBlox: are there any bitbets mods here?
BigBlox: hi, yes mods, they sent me here
kakobrekla: if you are talking about bitbet, mods resolve bets, not some random strangers
bitcoinpete: As much as I'd love to keep earning brownie points by chatting instead of just reading the logs like I do the scrolls, it's time to go for tonight. Cheers y'all
BingoBoingo: And then I got drunk and spent most of them on Buttcoins
ThickAsThieves: if yer gonna bank, bank there :)
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM100] [PAID] 1.83967000 BTC to 320`500 shares, 574 satoshi per share
BingoBoingo: Put 1 Twenty dollar Bitcoins down, recieve 5.86932711 hundred dollar Bitcoins
BingoBoingo: ThickAsThieves: See the Yes bet on February 23rd http://bitbet.us/bet/113/bitbet-will-we-worth-more-than-satoshi-dice/
BingoBoingo: I.e. "Who could anticipate that S.Dice would cease to be a tradable thing"
BingoBoingo: Most good Bitbets have at least 5 or 50 secret subbets tucked into them though
ThickAsThieves: or even say, if Bitstamp is no longer trading 500btc per day, then this bet resolves as No
BingoBoingo: Fall back to MPOE's OIX
assbot: [HAVELOCK] [AM1] [PAID] 11.96371260 BTC to 19`796 shares, 60435 satoshi per share
BingoBoingo: Isn't Kraken a scam, BitStamp two cans, and Coinbase not an exchange?
ThickAsThieves: in that order,whomever is still living
ThickAsThieves: price according to Bitstamp,Coinbase,Kraken
bitcoinpete: bingoboingo: that's where I was going
BingoBoingo: Well, the WSJ is blacklisted as is Coinmarket.BBQ
BingoBoingo: bitcoinpete: The problem with betting on the etherial is where to source the information
ThickAsThieves: we'll consolidate, everyone will be like oh now that bitcoin is stable it's so great, then July/Aug, liftoff to like $3000+
bitcoinpete: That would make quite the bitbet
bitcoinpete: BingoBoingo: This time next year
BingoBoingo: People start talking in hushed tones about that time when they once controlled a WHOLE Bitcoin
BingoBoingo: From that point BTC price becomes truly etherial
BingoBoingo: BTC will probably keep selling between $600 to $1000 for a while until suckers selling under $1000 have no coins to part with so cheaply
bitcoinpete: On the exchange side, that leaves a couple Canadians, CaVirtex mostly, with a sprinkling of Quadriga and Vault of Satoshi.
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: There are worse things to step in than shit.
BingoBoingo: Ah there it is
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: two pounds of shit, one-pound bag.
cads: nor am I sure how to structure the IP rights of the result
cads: I know how to sell basic drafting services, but I need to sell some product/industrial design services and I'm not sure how to price it to the client
kakobrekla: i dont think i have to repeat myself re bitstamp.
ozbot: Bitstamp was hacked 2 weeks ago, and only now users are finding out - tian's posthaven
asciilifeform: there are so many blanks for imagination to fill in, you'll mostly be reading the contents of the blanks.
asciilifeform: you can try to read this stuff and make sense of it, but more often than not you'll just be 'rorschaching' your own mind.
asciilifeform: more or less unreadable - as they tend to be, using 1000s of terms known only to the dead man
asciilifeform: if you don't believe this, get thee to a dusty book store and buy bucky fuller's 'synergetics' I and II
asciilifeform: if you dive into the binders, you're almost certainly doomed to be lost in the noise
cazalla: in the binders full of crackpot writings as you mentioned
asciilifeform: the most one can hope for is to get one or two major ideas 'out'
cazalla: i wonder if people are testing his hypothesis
asciilifeform: because that's simply how it works.
asciilifeform: the greatest heroes who ever lived, who none of us are fit even to be beheaded by, had terrible signal-to-noise ratios
asciilifeform: re: invention, for the impatient:
asciilifeform: (and coughed up terms like 'impedence')
asciilifeform: heaviside, the fellow who turned maxwell's equations from 23 in about that many unknowns, into the 4 that we learn in school.
asciilifeform: and tend to end badly.
asciilifeform: some 'idea people' don't have these 'coffin liner' binders
asciilifeform: because the real demented folks inevitably pick it up and add flourishes of their own
asciilifeform: hard to find good material about an inventor's 'dwarf star' phase
asciilifeform: e.g. karl friedrich gauss had a big fat binder that contained, among other things, both types of non-euclidean geometry.
asciilifeform: when these get published posthumously, quite a bit of strange is revealed
cazalla: asciilifeform: what's a ghost telegraph? i cannot find anything on google
asciilifeform: 'this ghost telegraph! it'll be what i'm remembered for! just needs a little tweaking.'
asciilifeform: the mechanism in their heads that is needed to dis-invest in an unproductive line of inquiry breaks. ☟︎
asciilifeform: when they become anxious to carry out a 'last hurrah,'
asciilifeform: another thing about aging inventors
asciilifeform: if you're unable to interact with an actual community of your peers, you tend to go way off in some strange direction
asciilifeform: rather, this is more like the folks who send binders full of crackpot proofs to maths profs today
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: i don't think this is it at all
kakobrekla: i guess misconception add up over the years ☟︎
asciilifeform: e.g. tesla's 'ghost telegraph'
asciilifeform: the 'time microscope' thing is typical of aging inventors who, by virtue of being cut off from competent peers (either by having none alive, or being on the wrong side of a jail of one kind or another) ☟︎☟︎☟︎
kakobrekla: asciilifeform the whole piece aint bad
asciilifeform: useful idiots do not need to know who they soldiers for. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, others: if you think that the enemy is foolish, and has no plan, this is a dangerous mistake: he is clever and knows the ancient chinese formula 'Yi yi zhi yi' (以夷治夷 ?) - 'control the barbarians using barbarians.'
jborkl: Went to the bitcoin conference today, figured might as well since it is here at home
bitcoinpete: On the recent Flexcoin oopsie. He's a local kid, met him a few months back.
asciilifeform: he's #2 on my list of folks who probably had the waveguide motor. (after the obvious candidate nick t.)
asciilifeform: at least, with regards to invention
asciilifeform: no one alive today is even fit to suck his decomposed cocke
asciilifeform: lev termen was a true inventor
asciilifeform: eventually i will deal with this subject in writing, unless mp takes up this chore in my place.
bitcoinpete: Still Samsung, so how do they unroot?
ozbot: The 'Snowden Phone' Will Encrypt All Your Calls and Texts