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asciilifeform: merkletree in bitcoin is a misfeature.
asciilifeform: kanzure: i must've missed something : hash functions ?
asciilifeform: waiwat..?
asciilifeform: 17:17 < kanzure> could the atmosphere be flooded with gas + nutrients sufficient to feed a person if lungs weren't awful
asciilifeform: why did we voice d00d again..?
asciilifeform: 18:29 < kanzure> buncha noise
asciilifeform: 18:29 < kanzure> yeah i don't know anymore
asciilifeform: public record.
asciilifeform: 18:40 < yashgaroth> ah, that's a lot of people to dedicate to a dumb idea << usg.dtra, unclass. to the tune of couplea decamil.
asciilifeform: ( re phuctor, apparently )
asciilifeform: didjaknow, mircea_popescu !
asciilifeform: 18:39 < fenn> therefore probably nothing really happened."
asciilifeform: 18:39 < fenn> it doesn’t pass the self check and was probably broken while uploaded.
asciilifeform: such barrier.
asciilifeform: they spread leg^H^H^Hmembrane for thiel/yudkowsky/etc al on command tho
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: so far in my reading all i see is http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-16#1699409 . ☝︎
asciilifeform: '16:38 < jrayhawk> he needs verifiable/falsifiable examples, but i think i have already stopped caring' << winner
asciilifeform is astonished at the elaborate dance of 'we dun get it' in $linked
asciilifeform: as in, 0 grams of anything you can't sit down and order right now for with 0 questions asked.
asciilifeform: kanzure: if it weren't clear, 'nuke with materials of electronics' means '0 fissiles'
asciilifeform: was fulla pastes
asciilifeform: just snarfed lastlog
asciilifeform: nope
asciilifeform: reddit?
asciilifeform: turns out goats really do think 'hey, it moves, has legs, IS ANOTHER GOAT'
asciilifeform: lul
asciilifeform: '15:49 < jrayhawk> i feel like popescu is what happens when you confuse postmodernism with intellectualism and then read too much alt-right literature'
asciilifeform: e.g. http://gnusha.org/logs/2017-08-28.log
asciilifeform: loads here
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-25#1618589 << canonical, iirc, thread. ☝︎
asciilifeform: somebody without a node is not a user, but a barnacle.
asciilifeform: tididididahdahdah...
asciilifeform: how, with telegraph key?!
asciilifeform: ( yer sig gets hashed and you get to luby in 3 tx from history... )
asciilifeform: ftr i dun see why not to make users also demonstrate possession of actual blockchain.
asciilifeform: aah
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which different thing
asciilifeform: nobody's ever conceived of a finesse around this, and i don't expect that anyone will.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we had this thread. if 'pruning' is a thing -- monetary mass is no longer demonstrably capped.
asciilifeform: (today, or 100yrs from now, when blockchain is petabyte. NO reprieve.)
asciilifeform: yer running bernankecoin.
asciilifeform: if you 'pruned', you ain't running bitcoin.
asciilifeform: or ever will be.
asciilifeform: NOTHING is 'prunable' in bitcoin.
asciilifeform: ^ see also
asciilifeform: !#s pruning
asciilifeform: ('utxo set' is a broken concept, thoroughly and to the bone : it implies that it is somehow acceptable to forget the history of all coin, i.e. the thing that proves that EVERY bitcent actually came from blockrewards as-specified, and not from magicking into existence a la fiatola )
asciilifeform: 'utxo set' is of the heathens.
asciilifeform: flesh this out
asciilifeform: known to whom ?
asciilifeform: private key?!
asciilifeform: waiwat
asciilifeform: kanzure: if it's cheaply outsourceable, it proves shit.
asciilifeform: full. history. of. the. world. -- or you can't play.
asciilifeform: no 'i can't believe it's not fullblockchain' idiocy.
asciilifeform: no 'prunings', no 'simplified' nonsense.
asciilifeform: 'can't use bitcoin PERIOD' unless you have a proper, honest motherfucking node, with ALL the blocks' is the Right Thing. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mno, it ain't.
asciilifeform: 'i cannot rightfully apprehend the confusion of ideas that could lead to such a question'
asciilifeform: i must invoke babbage here,
asciilifeform: at any rate, kanzure , the latest word on subj was http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-01#1620661 thread. ☝︎
asciilifeform: kanzure: keccak dun have midstates.
asciilifeform: what they 'coercing me into saying things that i don't believe' and why.
asciilifeform: mno
asciilifeform: kanzure: what, specifically ? ( and... why ? )
asciilifeform: y'mean legitimize the existing central cartel.
asciilifeform: 'safety improvements' didjaknow !
asciilifeform: lk about Bitcoin. We had many informal discussions amongst ourselves about topics such as mining decentralization, evolution of the Bitcoin protocol, safety improvements and progress for both soft- and hard-forks...' didjaknow!!
asciilifeform: 'Over the last few days, some Bitcoin developers and miners got together for a social gathering to improve communication, friendship, and to do some California sightseeing. We talked about where bitcoin is and where bitcoin is going. We learned a lot from each other. We also visited Stanford to attend a cryptography talk to learn more about potential improvements for Bitcoin, as well as the Google campus to give a presentation and ta
asciilifeform: come back.'
asciilifeform: 'I think we are interested in any and all opportunities to collaborate. We will try to setup a commercial circle. We hope that the Core developers will join. In the afternoon, we can come back after we visit Stanford. We have an hour gap and we can come back here. I have reserved the conference room for the whole day. We can still come back here. Googleplex is not very far from here. It takes 30min to get there or less. We can still
asciilifeform: massive, mind-boggling pile of 'roundtables', 'consensuses', 'preps for hardfork', 'plans for future of bitcoin'
asciilifeform read both links, 'holy mother of fuck, these people think... all of this matters'
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704484 << another astonishing horror show. recommended to all dedicated entomologists. ☝︎
asciilifeform: !~later tell kanzure elementary likbez : http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-17#1685595 ☝︎
asciilifeform: !~later tell kanzure http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704482 << realize, NOT ONE of these imbeciles, nor the idiocies they uttered, has a single thing to do with ACTUAL bitcoin. not the 'core dev' nsa tools, not the dan boneh ( http://diyhpl.us/wiki/transcripts/2016-july-bitcoin-developers-miners-meeting/dan-boneh ) nsa stooge; not the chinese derps. ☝︎
asciilifeform bbl, meat
asciilifeform: kanzure: as for why you won't read about it in the lugenpress, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-20#1687903 << n00b review ☝︎
asciilifeform: kanzure: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/phuctored << 1697 and counting rsa keys publicly raped.
asciilifeform: or v. or ffa. and what elses.
asciilifeform: probably never yet seen trb, either...
asciilifeform: and the demolition of ethertardium
asciilifeform: probably also missed the phuctoring
asciilifeform: pretty sure this is a historic first.
asciilifeform: srsly?! must be 1st d00d ever to walk in, who did not.
asciilifeform: i expected you knew this.
asciilifeform: kanzure: mpex is mircea_popescu's emporium.
asciilifeform: kanzure: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704513 >> see also http://nosuchlabs.com/hardware.html ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( somewhere, in another castle, there languishes a DREAMLOSER )
asciilifeform: it does read quite like an nsalogical compartmentname, dunnit. REALITYWINNER.
asciilifeform: supposedly.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: chix renamed itself
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: realitywinner?
asciilifeform: ( i print'em on old clunker that definitely has them dotz )
asciilifeform: colour laser ? everybody who bought a FG, has a thick wad of yellowdotted printout
asciilifeform: which item ?
asciilifeform: ( the dot pattern was reversed long ago, however , is public )
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-29#1704526 << colour laser is fiddybux at junk store ☝︎
asciilifeform brb, meat
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what's the operative diff ? -- other than where one places the 'world of plenty' hallucination in the present, and other -- in future..?