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mircea_popescu: if i go from "\\4hurrdurr" to "\\4urr" you'll say what, \\4\4 ?

asciilifeform: the one thing i consider a major win here, compactness aside, is the freeness-from-inbandmagic.

mircea_popescu: i'll give it a look ; but sounds to me a lot like "rather than learn vim i'll try and make emacs adnotate"

asciilifeform: i dare say that a colourized, phf-style viewer can make the suggested char-differ quite readable in comparison with ye olde unixdiff.

asciilifeform: and it's a 1 to an I etc.

asciilifeform: so, one possible diff might be : \4\i'm \+15\quite certainly \80\not fucking learning an aminoacid matrix to be able to use diff i tell you that ☟︎☟︎

asciilifeform: take sentence 'b': 'i'm quite certainly not fucking learning an aminoacid matrix to be able to use diff i tell you that'

asciilifeform: take sentence 'a': 'i'm not fucking learning an aminoacid matrix to be able to use diff i tell you that'

a111: Logged on 2017-01-05 00:04 mircea_popescu: i'm not fucking learning an aminoacid matrix to be able to use diff i tell you that,

mircea_popescu: i do not wish to need to know how many octets is the blank lead of a new line

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: i'll suggest a 'p-tronic' format for diffs. N\........ specifies N retained-of-a octets (e.g., 5\abcde ) ☟︎☟︎

ben_vulpes: there is some value in it but as mentioned before i have a c++ itch what needs scratching

ben_vulpes: i'll think on this

ben_vulpes: i could use proper docstrings at that even

ben_vulpes: i did not realize that the patch could contain comments that do not affect its output, is that so?

asciilifeform: i read the original turd, it was ill-specified

adlai: ah. that typo-collided collided with my other homework, which i am doing.

ben_vulpes: not immediately, but i will load it up

asciilifeform: i just described how to toss it out

mircea_popescu: i'm not fucking learning an aminoacid matrix to be able to use diff i tell you that, ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i mean in the "wtf did the differ do" human evaluation

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: you probably don't need a similarity matrix other than the unit matrix for text diffs, now that i think about it.

ben_vulpes: i was hit with the ugly stick at birth, you can't scare me

asciilifeform: i wonder if he's ready to make own difftron

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i have nfi how php xors or if it even understands anything. implemented as ifs.

adlai: mircea_popescu: thank you for the sauce though, i was about to puzzle out the exact meaning of "M%S-th" behaviorally

asciilifeform: (i'll take the original fortran, too, if it worx)

mircea_popescu: calling it "state machine" is kind-of improper as i suppose the result also holds state. a cleaner separation may be advisable, but w/e.

asciilifeform: this doesn't have a traditional meaning, i am now trying to puzzle out what is meant

asciilifeform: i mean in 'step 1', not in the start state

adlai: now that's a hearoglyph i haven't seen in a long time!

asciilifeform: adlai: indeed it does, i put it to actual use at a salt mine

asciilifeform: adlai: i meant 'proggy in normal language that is widely available', vs proprietary turdlang

adlai: please elaborate, what do you mean by "writing a human proggy"? what i meant by "not a full solution" is that there's supposedly a tool out there which does 'half' the job, and obviously some human must write a proggy that does the other

mircea_popescu: sigh. i guess one has no choice, does one.

asciilifeform: i'll read it.

mircea_popescu: i'm half tempted to just write it in php, and have it write out words instead of drawings.

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yeah but fuck me, what am i going to do, php against imagemagick ? c++ and qt ? fuck.

adlai: not a full solution, but i do recall phf mentioning some animation software driven by sexps

asciilifeform: well i warned, it is satanic. but there is no human analogue of this tool, sadly.

mircea_popescu: yes but do i have to have mathematica now ?

asciilifeform: i used to use 'mathematica' to do precisely this

mircea_popescu: anyone know of a code-to-gif compiler ? i have nfi how one's supposed to do cryptography without it.

mircea_popescu: i wish i had a way to program things in a visual manner, so i could obtain a GIF! animated! of what the algorithm is supposed to do.

mircea_popescu: eh i was tempted but im kinda too rusty.

mircea_popescu: im not sure the above notation is all that clear, but if any questions i'll gladly answer

asciilifeform: i'ma have to build a working model of this.

asciilifeform: it has another problem, that i never invented yet a pill against, which is that later bits in the turdogram 'count for' considerably less than earlier ones

mircea_popescu: ah i musta missed that. but yeah, can craft item that takes a long time to hash

asciilifeform: i suggested this, iirc, a day or two ago to ben_vulpes

BingoBoingo: I guess Buterin broke

mircea_popescu: i suspect it's a mystery

BingoBoingo: Seriously how does she make that much? I just assumed the decimal place moved.

trinque: "look I was heard", "I too am smart"

shinohai: I stopped reading some time ago, same recycled butthurt

a111: Logged on 2017-01-04 13:18 Framedragger: (i.e., need to think carefully about the value of $time http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-23#1588759 but may be useful)

asciilifeform: 'oh it's the same text except that i ran this-here perl turd on it and trust me that it works as i said on your perltron' is not vtronic.

a111: Logged on 2017-01-04 10:33 davout: i don't really see asciilifeform's issue with large 'formatting' patches, as long as it can be mechanically established that the changes a patch brings do not change any of the code semantics there should be no problem with arbitrarily large patches

mircea_popescu: and you JUST KNOW the conclusion of this will be "mp is bad and evil", in NO FUCKING CASE "i was an idiot and who knew, turns out it's unsustainable".

mircea_popescu: and in unrelated lulz, http://trilema.com/2015/internoc24-or-the-crisis-and-its-resolution/#comment-120934 "oh, lalala we can't hear anything" ; two months later "oh wait, what the guy said would happen happened, our marketing's utterly shot now" "OH I KNOW!!! I WILL FIX EVERYTHING! by going on in the manner that got me raped in the first place, because i'm a speshul snoflake that can!11".

davout: i think i like this solution

davout: if the responsibility of maintaning the address history is delegated to the wallet, i expect that this index can be massively shrunk

mircea_popescu: i would expect less.

davout: yep, same goes for actual walleting as far as I'm concerned :D

mircea_popescu: davout i meant as far as actual mining is concerned (in practice). by the time of the gpu era, most people ditched satoshi code for mining.

Framedragger: (i.e., need to think carefully about the value of $time http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-23#1588759 but may be useful) ☝︎☟︎

a111: Logged on 2016-12-23 02:45 asciilifeform: hm for some reason i thought we had autofallover on scriba

davout: i don't really see asciilifeform's issue with large 'formatting' patches, as long as it can be mechanically established that the changes a patch brings do not change any of the code semantics there should be no problem with arbitrarily large patches ☟︎

davout: ah i didn't notice the two lines merged as one being seen as a move

ben_vulpes: i have the distinct impression that i am blithering madly to davout

davout: yeah, aka oyu inserted some lines before and after, i doubt it'd be very smart about swapping two lines for example

ben_vulpes: davout: i think the highlighting is trying to tell me that it thinks that `format t "~{~A~}"' persisted from the previous commit to this one

ben_vulpes: http://imgur.com/a/KuPJv << some kind of voodoo magic in there knows i moved that format string around ☟︎

ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2015-09-09#1268284 << for the life of me i cannot find the thread to which you're referring here ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-01-04 02:55 asciilifeform: (possibly davout might have some input) i recently read an american-flavoured thing re pilotage accidents, and it dwelled on 'jp in petrol tank' , insidious condition where the engine ~will~ start but tends to quit ~during takeoff~, guaranteed corpse

davout: anyway, i think the benefits of extracting/dropping the embedded miner would be quite small in contrast with the benefits of untangling the wallet

davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-04#1596028 <<< not in trb as far as i can tell, i can tell the thing to 'generate' etc. ☝︎

mircea_popescu: fuck i put comment in wrong article.

mircea_popescu: anyway, i kind-of gave up documenting their downtime.

ben_vulpes: i don't even programming and don't do that

mircea_popescu: which i give 50-50 odds was just an accidental server update with old code.

asciilifeform: i actually like the crc encyclopaedia moar

ben_vulpes: these episode 2 crickets are unsettling, perhaps i need to write more things for people to disagree with

asciilifeform: curl http://foo | pgpdump -i | .... to be 'precise'.

asciilifeform: pgpdump -i

BingoBoingo: I think you mispelled "wellfed state"

BingoBoingo: https://i.sli.mg/zJE2z7.jpg << Hamplanetary destination for space ship. Also an eater.

mircea_popescu: DUDE BUT I THOUGHT MANY INTELLIGENT EYES MAKE BUGS SHALLOW

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-03#1595972 << kinda where all those "great future everyone flies plane" threads always die, with mp saying "i wouldn't put that work in if the plane sucked my cock." ☝︎

mod6: is that the same as the JET-A1 or whatever I sometimes see on the side of tanks?

mod6: i guess this took place at a refueling stop in the middle of the night.

mod6: yeah, actually, now that I think about it, i was told that in this particular case I was talking about, the guy didn't even put in regular unleaded (87 octane), he put in like 110 octane racing fuel.

asciilifeform: (possibly davout might have some input) i recently read an american-flavoured thing re pilotage accidents, and it dwelled on 'jp in petrol tank' , insidious condition where the engine ~will~ start but tends to quit ~during takeoff~, guaranteed corpse ☟︎

mircea_popescu: and in other news, girl preparing to weigh self, "if it shows me over what i started at ima jump out the window". me, equanimous "wouldn't it be better to jump out window if surprisingly light, than if surprisingly heavy ?'

a111: Logged on 2017-01-03 22:32 asciilifeform: i'd naively think that this would've been resolved in 1930s, if not earlier, just make the levers vastly different (shapes, or lengths, and feel, etc)

asciilifeform: i like mircea_popescu's scheme, imho it should be written exactly like-so

asciilifeform: aite, we had thread, i won't repeat

mircea_popescu: by ip. yes yes, i know i know.

asciilifeform: just like i can't go and offer a candidate tx to swift because i feel like it