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jurov: !t m x.idiff.dec
jurov: well.. since F.DERP isn't trading, replacing it with a bet would be worthwhile
mats: more code that doesn't work
ikeboy: BingoBoingo: people were saying it wasn't going to launch at $20 in a week like it's supposed to
Adlai: not quite tanks, but i wouldn't want at home the things i'm familiar with, and they're less trouble than tanks
assbot: Army Guide - T-72, Main battle tank ... ( http://bit.ly/1z8nbLR )
mats: http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product890.html TIL you can put jet fuel, rocket, or gasoline in a T-72
BingoBoingo: Also can't just fill up the fighter jet at the local 7-11
assbot: T-72 - Tanks - Mortarinvestments.eu - Mortar Investments ... ( http://bit.ly/1z8i1zz )
mats: http://www.mortarinvestments.eu/products/tanks-2/t-72-42#currency=USD << get your own soviet tank for only 50k USD!
BingoBoingo: I don't think Russia would switch over at least until the USMS auctions are over.
mircea_popescu: more of the "if i call this something else it won't be this anymore" ?
davout: "nope, we won't seize mark's comfy chair, it's owned by tibanne"
cazalla: for anyone that doesn't know what centrelink is, typical customer = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26O9XYTSj4g
cazalla: won't be long until majority of young people wake up and realise they're wasting their time working and paying tax to support eldery people who get huge welfare yet own everything
cazalla: Vexual, http://grattan.edu.au/report/the-wealth-of-generations/ ya should read it, even if ya don't, having asians as token australian image really sums it up
cazalla: not sure outdated is the right word, what my parents did wouldn't fly these days
cazalla: not auth'd so can't up you Vexual
cazalla: concern of the report is diminishing amount of people to tax, young people work more and more and yet won't ever own their own home and that this unspoken agreement that we pay for the eldery so that the young pay for us when old is going to break down
cazalla: i don't think it matters who holds them
Luke-Jr: (I didn't ask what the other thing he considered controversial was, sorry)
danielpbarron: 12:07 <+Luke-Jr> danielpbarron: "spam" and "fee" have no direct relationship << yes they do. if I spend an old output, no fee required; i spend a new output with no fee, tx doesn't get spread
Luke-Jr: the "core devs" don't even want to.
ben_vulpes: except he doesn't have the courtesy to keep his braindamage on his own machines.
Luke-Jr: BingoBoingo: no, it isn't.
danielpbarron: he doesn't have the right or ability to effect such a change; that's not the issue
undata: because like, lots of traffic, and I don't want it... ?
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: the people who play the dice games aren't people ?
ben_vulpes: his victims apparently don't care.
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: iirc the answer was 'la la can't hear you'
Luke-Jr: undata: your argument reduces to "lol I can't think"
Luke-Jr: undata: no, it doesn't.
ben_vulpes: especially if you can't figure out how to load it as config.
Luke-Jr: doesn't matter
ben_vulpes: MPAA doesn't like magic numbers, Luke-Jr doesn't like magic numbers...
thestringpuller: scoopbot don't have the scoop?
keystroke: i reregged as keystrike as i figure the keystroke identity can't be proven anymore as i never registered with pgp and that address is not accessible at this location
joecool: as you wish, though you won't be able to corroborate your story of registering and being in the community early on if you do that, if that matters to you at all
joecool: undata: you just don't get the Tonal System do you
Luke-Jr: and it doesn't screw up anything
Luke-Jr: I didn't try to sneak anything in, the plan has been clearly published for months, and ensures nobody ever receives them without being aware
davout: BingoBoingo: i think catholicism isn't too far from qualifying as a 'farm ailment'
BingoBoingo: What kind of Catholic isn't ready to be a Shepherd?
Luke-Jr: BingoBoingo: problem is, I don't have any crops planted for them to eat yet, and the fence isn't really setup ideally yet
asciilifeform: i don't own any serious quantity of any kind of thing one might wake up in the morning and compulsively check the 'worth' of.
asciilifeform: PeterL: i do in theory, but it doesn't work yet
PeterL: asciilifeform: i don't own any bitcoin assets, incidentally. << what? I thought you were co-founder of S.NSA, you don't own any of it?
BingoBoingo: decimation: I mean you don't feed cattle fresh salads, you feed them silage from the corn that was too useful for them to eat.
BingoBoingo: Doesn't matter if you are in East Korea
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: can't find the naggum article I referenced earlier, but anyways yes - the process of choosing a hero in the USSA isn't by any stretch of imagination random.
asciilifeform: i'm already making it in a jungle. but a jungle with warm bed, good food, reasonable instrumentation, and opportunity for work that doesn't send me in search of a pistol to fellate
asciilifeform: i don't own any bitcoin assets, incidentally.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: i can't possibly say what is - or is not - worth your time.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: so you're of the opinions that a) it isn't worth my time to network with people in other territories and b) usg is going to collapse?
asciilifeform: except i don't go around asking to be paid to program.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: well, yes. I simply do not program anything other than Common Lisp. but because I can do this at $mylocation doesn't mean that there doesn't exist a soul in e.g., Russia who would be willing to pay me to do it.
asciilifeform: it isn't about 'hands dirty', either
decimation: PeterL: if the us isn't around, who is going to stop them from expanding?
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: If you have ideas you can submit a draft, but cazalla lives in a country where you can't get butter spreading devices without showing ID
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: hmmm. I don't know much about the situation there and will refrain from commenting on it.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Because they can't repel all of their enemies. Israel has had a chronic ally shortage.
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: really? because now they can't kill irritating brown people outright?
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: you can't program!?
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: aha. probably don't even qualify as good cannon fodder these days.
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: equipment can be replaced, in theory. i can't leave because i'm of no use to anyone elsewhere.
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: everything I've got to my name fits in two bags. I understand that ascii can't leave because of equipment, but that isn't the situation for most people.
BingoBoingo: gabriel_laddel: Sinaloa and Los Zetas didn't grow themselves
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: come on. you're telling me that you can't set out for the promised land with 50k cash in your back pocket and be able to figure out some way to a) have bitcoin in the future and b) make enough USD now to live on?
decimation: actually I wouldn't mind tollways if roads were fully privatized
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: You don't have to give up USD immediately if you leave the US.
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: of course it isn't easy. building Israel into somewhere you might actually want to live wasn't easy.
gabriel_laddel: BingoBoingo: dosen't matter really. have you met any American cattle? when the country fails they'll find themselves rejected everywhere / killed outright.
asciilifeform: kakobrekla: can't speak for others, but my programming is 90+% read/think and 10% write, timewise ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: (re: Threaded Emacs, I've already walked that road - don't waste your time. Not going to happen and won't fix the underlying issues with Emacs anyways.)
decimation: asciilifeform: you don't compile the latest emacs 24?
asciilifeform: so can't speak for other folks. but several people i've exposed to it are now habitual users.
asciilifeform: but none (discussion limited to modern-ish hardware, rather than collectables) that don't have mc.
asciilifeform: 'can't delete avahi-0.6.31p10 without deleting cups-libs-1.6.3p0 gtk+2-2.24.20p1 gvfs-1.16.3' << brain damage beyond belief
asciilifeform: perhaps it wasn't a flag, but had to actually diddle the src.
assbot: 0 results for 'doesn't do this for some perverse reason' : http://s.b-a.link/?q=doesn%27t+do+this+for+some+perverse+reason
gabriel_laddel: !s doesn't do this for some perverse reason
mats: its fast approaching ten years of life, im surprised you don't know of it
asciilifeform: decimation: generally, kde crud won't be on your box unless you actually use kde
decimation: I can't keep the kde and gnome stuff straight
gabriel_laddel: <asciilifeform> http://patrick.wagstrom.net/weblog/2008/01/03/goodbye-openbsd << vintage whine re: dependency hells << infinite hitpoits, see UNIX haters handbook. (This isn't directed at ascii, but rather n00bs who have not read it.)
adlai: all information deducible from one transaction graph is deducible from the other, and using unique addresses means that unspent transactions aren't [yet] linked to the business
davout: i don't think address reuse enhances privacy either
adlai: there's the example of several customer transactions to several business addresses, and several customer transactions to one business address; in both examples, you can see which customer funds have been spent where, and which haven't been touched.
adlai: BingoBoingo: the argument in that blog post kinda assumes you can't distinguish between inputs from the same address
adlai: this doesn't need to be hardcoded precompilation
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: so you'll surrender if opponent so much as lifts a finger in opposition? or do you have some 'round two' answer that doesn't involve centrally-controlled zap lists.
Luke-Jr: adlai: for me, part of this isn't so much the spam filtering, as much as it is trying to combat monoculture
Luke-Jr: adlai: yes, there is - but they haven't done it yet
asciilifeform: Luke-Jr: don't lie and say that it won't be a remote-updated kill list. because that's the only answer - other than surrender.
adlai: but the debate (no quotes needed, it's very real, otherwise you wouldn't be engaging it) is also a great waste of your energy
Luke-Jr: asciilifeform: that would make sense; people seem to assume something monumentally stupid is worthless, but in practice it isn't. ☟︎
adlai: fluffypony: hate leads to the usg side of the force. just play, have fun, go home, hope you don't get mugged on the way.
Luke-Jr: danielpbarron: your argument is like saying "cyanide is bad, so I shouldn't consume vegetables"
fluffypony: Catholicism is a snare and a racket. If you're going to have belief in a higher power, at least choose a religion that isn't controlled by a central body with billions of USD at stake.
danielpbarron: "this transaction is spam because it isn't associated with a USG approved ID and taxed accordingly"