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gabriel_laddel_p: Incidentally, I have a copy of that volume and don't need a link.
a111: Logged on 2017-01-07 23:33 gabriel_laddel_p: also, if you could locate the precise knuth book where he discusses balanced ternery, and then find me a warez copy, that would be useful
adlai: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-01-07#1598739 << it's in more than one volume of taocp, but "discusses" is a drastic overstatement. he just gives a few "port the aforementioned binary algorithm" exercises. if you're still curious - it's in "Seminumerical Algorithms" ☝︎
adlai: ben_vulpes: literally nothing: "If a defpackage form appears as a top level form, all of the actions normally performed by this macro at load time must also be performed at compile time."
ben_vulpes: dear lispers, what would compel someone to put a defpackage form inside an eval-when?
mircea_popescu: the chances of black person without a twenty dollar bill making it in the us today is ~0.
asciilifeform: there's a set of derps sitting in airport. they either get let in past customs -- or not let in. physical fact. activist-judge proclaimed 'let in.' and by all indications, mr.t -- kowtowed.
mircea_popescu: next congress is going to pass a debt ceiling or something.
asciilifeform: in so far as 1) activist-judge is still a judge, and mr.t's dhs 'announced that it will obey judicial orders' and 2) the rapefugees were let out of the airport and happily on their way to $destination -- it works.
mod6: re: question for the user to proceed with multiple roots; this adds a level of annoyance. thoughts?
asciilifeform: sooo went over 'resurrected miracle' mobo with magnifying glass, there is indeed a leaking electrolytic cap (and a few pre-death ones, bulging like botulistic tinned food)
mod6: oh fwiw, like we discussed, I also added a "multiple roots found, continue?" question for the user.
mod6: the current #trilema-mod6 log is pretty short, but I've done some upfront testing with mulitple roots. If you want to see the info, here's a log link to the goods: http://logs.bvulpes.com/trilema-mod6?d=2017-1-29#0fde4881-aaa8-4bf7-ba7c-9c0bd0d3856c
mod6: as far as testing, it can not be understated how important the automated tests were for V to ensure that regressions did not happen. would be great to eventually have a framework build up for eulora so that functional and unit testing could be inplace the same way.
mod6: it actually doesn't take long to set it up at all. but i need every spare minute possible for V atm. but when I have a few spare cycles, I'll get that going. at least I have a box for it now.
diana_coman: mod6, testing is still in the future of eulora mostly ; sadly; and I get what you say there: I wouldn't spend the time now to set the client up if it wasn't already there and ready to be left on its own for days at a time
mod6: diana_coman: well, i've got a box. my main focus has been getting these V changes put in. and pretty much think that's complete, but got a ton of testing in front of me.
mircea_popescu: mod6 it's not even "34 C". it's that the air is so moist, getting this to 24 is about 3x the joules it'd take you to get it to 24 in a sane climate.
mod6: In the summer, does it cool off quite a bit at night though?
mircea_popescu: summers are humid though, my ac is literally pouring out a faucet.
mod6: I remember it being like a greasy chicken type thing. Even had some dark meat in there.
mircea_popescu: moose is itself a coupla days for 3 people.
mod6: If shoot a moose or slaugher a pig, or whatever, gotta know how to take it apart and preserve the meat. Basic.
mircea_popescu: mod6 nothing you can't learn in a week. provided of course there's whom to learn from.
mod6: yeah, its a basic life skill.
mircea_popescu: when i was a kid ~every male was supposed to be able to do this.
mod6: Looks ike a decent meat book.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman did you see that "amintiri din epoca de aur" antology ? there's a segment there re apartment gassing of pig.
diana_coman recollects of all a sudden a pocket-book from childhood: "Taiem porcul. Cum il preparam?"
mod6: then after that I used a pair of metal cutting scissors and cut them in to very small pieces.
mod6: Oh, speaking of cured meats... I hit up the deli again today and picked up a bunch of different salami.
mod6: I'm starting a huge testing phase as we speak. I thought it was worth the effort to /try/ get it working for others.
mod6: this might be worth a read: http://trilema.com/2013/how-to-airgap-a-practical-guide/
mircea_popescu: if you end up losing connection a lot better fix your bouncer set-up than automate your identity
pete_dushenski: simonpenner: same one. sectioon 7 relating to biometric entry-exit tracking was just getting a bit of traction on the second go-around
pete_dushenski: a guest on most major news media, profiled in several top print publications, and published broadly on the topic of consumer loyalty."
pete_dushenski: in less acute instincts, this has to be the lousiest author bio i've seen in a while : "Gary Leff is one of the foremost experts in the field of miles, points, and frequent business travel - a topic he has covered since 2002. Co-founder of frequent flyer community Milepoint.com, emcee of the Freddie Awards, and named one of the "World's Top Travel Experts" byConde' Nast Traveler (2010-Present) Gary has been
pete_dushenski: twas a good time.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/01/29/a-glimpse-of-great-during-the-first-week-of-great-again/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - A glimpse of Great during the first week of Great Again.
pete_dushenski: ben_vulpes: except trump's caddy to be every bit as brash. and are the amerikans still claiming a growing economy ? really ?
asciilifeform: or how cia/howard hughes built a massive robotic salvager JUST for that one sov sub.
asciilifeform: imho it may or may not make sense to make a tool just for trb. just as raising most ww2 sunken submarines is not +ev, only the ones full of nazi gold.
asciilifeform: and many 'action at a distance' idiocies
asciilifeform: to briefly revisit upstack, the difference matters here in the respect that a ~cpp~ call-grapher is a ~much~ taller order, because of the OOP soup
mircea_popescu: kernel is a ... kernel.
mircea_popescu: imagine a v-tree code analysis bot.
asciilifeform: exposed to a lisp.
asciilifeform: it isn't even a mega-mystery what this will have to look like:
mircea_popescu: actually a long term "c++ toolkit" is probably a very worth republican project. it's accessible by parts, like seen here, even if the parts are really above pay grade of most folk, and is certainly unevitable. we're stuck with a lot of c++ code and this isn't going to go away.
asciilifeform: there's a thing for finding ~some~ buffer overflows. and that's it.
asciilifeform: this is one of those items whose lack will be sorely felt every time sane folx go on a burst of Reading Old Code
mircea_popescu: iirc we discussed doing a sort of iterated attractor thing
asciilifeform: a graphical circuit with more than a handful of crossed lines is ~unreadable.
mircea_popescu: people generally look to answer the very simple "who the fuck is this guy again ?" ; "he found that quirk on so and so linux flavour" is a better response than "i dunno, he just started talking one day".
mircea_popescu: use v to set up a trb node yes.
Reuel: step one is setting up a node then?
mircea_popescu: then you can look through mimisbrunnr and see the sort of load bitcoin db implies, then you'll be in a fine position to model adequate tests for the profiling thing above ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ah. well, from a simple "cs competency" perspective, doing a trb build first is very good practice. i'll familiarize you with what's here a minimal bar of qualification and anywhere else above the reach of graduate students somehow. and it'll show you the power of the tools and the quality of the engineering.
mircea_popescu: do you understand the bitcoin end of things ? are you running a client ? ever got a v-build of trb to run for instance ?
mircea_popescu: well yeah, you want a hdd. if it's new or old don't su much matter, but empty.
Reuel: Im looking to improve standing after all, although a bot sounded interesting
Reuel: so this would be best to do on a clean hdd
mircea_popescu: oh, you want a bot specifically ?
Reuel: its setting up an experiment, not making a bot though
a111: Logged on 2016-12-22 06:41 mircea_popescu: ok so a) gotta see if ext2 / ext4 CAN EVEN HOLD this many symlinks. like, at all.
mircea_popescu: well, there's various actually useful projects waiting for a hand. such as for instance http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-22#1588182 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: why, you had a better idea ?
Reuel: but, is there a need for a logger?
mircea_popescu: so make a logger, look at Framedragger phf ben_vulpes 's for inspiration.
Reuel: my main goal here was to make a bot as to get involved a bit
mircea_popescu: if they were gonna put half a hour into the female gossip thing you describe, they'd have already found livejournal / instagram / whatever they use these days.
mircea_popescu: seems to me there's already a social media democracy game which costs nothing to enter ; and at least in the fantasmagoric minds of half the pariticpants promises to pay out.
Reuel: in the simple case of my game, it would be, at the bottom, the same as action movies for a large part of the population, power fantasies
mircea_popescu: to use a ballas-ism, people who allign their future to that vector how did it go
mircea_popescu: the other guy is an elven astrologer. she wants to put in there a large couch and other things, according to a complicated scheme she has, which at all junctures is justified formallyt and specifically, buyt in general it all backs into "because i think people'd like this".
mircea_popescu: two people are interested in this space. one guy is a dwarf alchemist. he wants to put in there a large cauldron and other things, according to a complicated scheme he has, which at all junctures is justified formally and specifically, but in general it all backs into "because it'd be cool to do".
mircea_popescu: so in a nameless city on a nameless street a spot of commercial space opens up. it has all the amenties and whatever.
mircea_popescu: let's work a thought experiment.
Reuel: But it would be a designed lawbook
Reuel: Then, if it would have to be implemented with what you would call more sane basics, the in game money would need to come from somewhere. Could be solved by making each vote costing actual irl money. Maybe even make many of the in-game actions cost money. So, either a per action cost that can be paid, or each player pitches in at the start to fill the nation's coffers.
Reuel: mircea_popescu, diana_coman, re: your criticisms, I would say that, at the higher level, there is a choice in target audience, people who live democracy as implemented in the west and agree with it will find no trouble wasting time on a game like this, since it mimics familiar mechanisms (even if broken). In this particular channel, probably not enough ppl would be interested.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/01/29/lavarice-et-lenvie/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - L’Avarice et l’Envie.
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/ED7A32587D2275512A200ECD69E2758A918109BB6B82E71D130792461084B71A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 1156...5983 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '186.167.34.114 (ssh-rsa key from 186.167.34.114 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown VE A)
deedbot: http://phuctor.nosuchlabs.com/gpgkey/ED7A32587D2275512A200ECD69E2758A918109BB6B82E71D130792461084B71A << Recent Phuctorings. - Phuctored: 9224...0213 divides RSA Moduli belonging to '186.167.34.114 (ssh-rsa key from 186.167.34.114 (13-14 June 2016 extraction) for Phuctor import. Ask asciilifeform or framedragger on Freenode, or email fd at mkj dot lt) <ssh...lt>; ' (Unknown VE A)
BingoBoingo: Seriously a broken google cache link in the piece to http://mattforney.com/fat-girls-dont-deserve-loved/ Why no real link?
mircea_popescu: "but he's a hard worker and gives 110%!!!" yes but 110% of shit is still worth nothing.
mircea_popescu: simonpenner so what do you do, other than aving started a blog last year where ppl guestpost
mircea_popescu: this is a very naive presupposition.
asciilifeform: simonpenner: you will, but there is a long queue, i've been waiting for gassing since '13
simonpenner: I've a cat. I love. I used to have a dog (ex's dog), I loved him. Both are good
simonpenner: well foxes are like a hybrid dog/cat with the best of both worlds
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform is a dog that thinks himself a cat
BingoBoingo: It's a mix. I am primarily an alcoholic in recovery.
BingoBoingo: Well not an auth so much as a challenge/response
simonpenner: you did a pgp auth right there?
BingoBoingo: I did see that, but what can a person do?
simonpenner: to clarify in case you missed this: I did not write the days of rage post, that is a guestpost
simonpenner: BingoBoingo: I poked my head in here the other day on a fake name via webchat, to figure out what it is. Now I've got a bouncer set up and can IRC again
asciilifeform: simonpenner: register a gpg key, per http://deedbot.org/help.html , then you will be able to voice yourself.
simonpenner: just a guy with opinions