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mircea_popescu: i think it's a good time to release (provided it doesn't turn into a wires thing eh!), we can have it on qntra and "republic same day response" etc.
a111: Logged on 2016-12-11 23:00 asciilifeform: i was not going to expand on the 'p' thread until the proggy is done, but this is probably a good time to say 1 more
asciilifeform: we also have a few other things, e.g., http://btcbase.org/log/2016-12-11#1581867 . ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (and, of course, we have, courtesy of you know, that "unreasonable expenditure that will spell the ruin of s.nsa and with it of the entire republic!!11" a complete list of all rsa moduli.)
asciilifeform: will add also that from the pov of a third party unliked to wot of (owner) or (usurper), there are now ~two~ 0x8A736F0E2FB7B452 people.
mircea_popescu: anyway. to get back to the point of interest : it is entirely possible to produce a 'i eat toe fungus!', signed, sincerely, 0x8A736F0E2FB7B452. ; but it is not possible to hide the fact that this was a fake from the owner of the privkey and anyone who has his pubkey.
asciilifeform: should not have been a surprise, to anyone. like the old example of derelict bridge falling down. 'not an if, but a when'
mircea_popescu: i'm not disputing that part ; just saying that it's not exactly a surprise.
asciilifeform: became a serious itch for asciilifeform when he watched a sha1 collision get crapped out on demand, for minor project, at butugychag 1+ yr ago
asciilifeform: the keyring thing is a work of evil.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform o hey, consider this situation : 1. i know your fp, so i make fake key for that fp. 2. i know trinque 's fp, so i make fake key for that fp too. 3. i know you keep a signed copy of trinque's key on your keyring ; so : 4. i proceed to sign trinque's fake key with your fake key and 5. pretend to be a noob and give you my gpg pubkey. ☟︎
asciilifeform: the real headache is that it is entirely possible to produce a 'i eat toe fungus!', signed, sincerely, 0x8A736F0E2FB7B452. a year ago i estimated that this costs 100k usd. today -- probably a few thou.
asciilifeform: not without a broad daylight fleanode break.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-17 02:16 asciilifeform: btw does mircea_popescu know what would happen if a pgp key with his main key but new magical subkey were generated and posted to sks ?
asciilifeform: at quite reasonable expense, enemy can produce a key that sha-fp's to B98228A001ABFFC7, and for which he has the priv p,q.
mircea_popescu: or to quote from the cesspool, "This is both incredibly fascinating, and a beautiful show of the kinds of innovation the Bitcoin system supports!"
mircea_popescu: it's not so much a toy as peter todd & friends are retards.
asciilifeform: it was a toy, and even explicitly warned 'you must mine the block yourself, or miner can simply take the prize'
a111: Logged on 2017-02-23 18:47 danielpbarron: the collision was apparently real enough to trigger the spending of a bounty contained in some nonstandard address abomination >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=293382.msg17950195#msg17950195
asciilifeform: in other vintage lulz, 'Note also that unlike nearly every other OpenPGP subsystem, there are no parameters in the MDC system. It hard-defines SHA-1 as its hash function. This is not an accident. It is an intentional choice to avoid downgrade and cross-grade attacks while making a simple, fast system. (A downgrade attack would be an attack that replaced SHA-256 with SHA-1, for example. A cross-grade attack would replace SHA-1 wi
shinohai: A Gavinized addy to be fair
danielpbarron: the collision was apparently real enough to trigger the spending of a bounty contained in some nonstandard address abomination >> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=293382.msg17950195#msg17950195 ☟︎
asciilifeform: adlai: any time you feel like doing something useful -- no shortage of items. there is, for instance, a trb knob direly needing testing, http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2017-February/000251.html
mircea_popescu: dude, get lost. i'm going to use you for a urinal. that's it.
asciilifeform: notice that this comes with a built-in twiddle nonce -- the key creation timestamp
asciilifeform: 'A V4 fingerprint is the 160-bit SHA-1 hash of the octet 0x99, followed by the two-octet packet length, followed by the entire Public-Key packet starting with the version field. The Key ID is the low-order 64 bits of the fingerprint. ' -- ye olde rfc4880
mircea_popescu: which is funny seeing how tmsr design was moving towards "full modulus" a year ago and "for no reason"
asciilifeform: short fp was breakable on a 486
asciilifeform: the sha1 people posted the algo. shouldn't take too much work to turn it into a, e.g., gpg fp clobberer.
mircea_popescu: added a fucking nonce, diddle it, hurr durr we're contributering.
mircea_popescu: betting is supposed to be a passtime you.
asciilifeform: mats: it is a little disappointing, apparently not fully general collision, but only works on strings having a certain structure
asciilifeform: 'White nationalist Richard Spencer says he’s been kicked out of a gathering of conservative activists. Spencer posted a video on the internet saying he was “politely asked to leave” the Conservative Political Action Conference. Spencer was booted shortly after being denounced by an organizer of the conference. American Conservative Union Executive Director Dan Schneider denounced the so-called alt-right as anti-Semitic, racist
asciilifeform: the 'respectable conservatives' are a zhirinovskian 'heat sink' and have been for decades.
mircea_popescu: clearly the jew pig did a great turn for our democracy.
asciilifeform: 'Hester said he didn’t have money for bullets but could buy some in a couple weeks when he got his tax return.'
asciilifeform: and in same fishwrap, another 'new york deathray plot', https://archive.is/me1dv >> 'The U.S. Army veteran was charged last week with trying to support the Islamic State ... Agents swooped in during a meeting with a man Hester believed was an Islamic State contact, according to an affidavit filed in U.S. District Court in Missouri. But the man was actually an undercover FBI agent who had been building a case against the 25-year-0ld f
asciilifeform: 'William H. McRaven, a retired four-star admiral and former Navy SEAL, defended journalists this week, calling President Trump’s denunciation of the media as “the enemy of the American people” the “greatest threat to democracy” he’s seen in his lifetime.'
asciilifeform: ion, which runs CPAC. “We must not be deceived by [a] hateful, left-wing fascist group.”'
asciilifeform: 'One of the first speeches at this year’s Conservative Political Action Conference challenged the media to stop referring to the “alt-right,” a small, far-right movement that seeks a whites-only state and that strongly backed Donald Trump for president, as conservative. “There is a sinister organization that is trying to warp its way into our ranks,” said Dan Schneider, the executive director of the American Conservative Un
mircea_popescu: certainly a large part.
asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu in re: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-23#1617048 , interestingly zoolag -- despite being an x86 comp the size of a tea saucer, and weighing ~400 gram -- has roughly 3x faster block verification (of given block) than dulap ! -- on account of ssd. ☝︎
asciilifeform: oh mircea_popescu , ben_vulpes , mod6 , et al : the wires patch has a mistake, it fails to reconnect; please do not waste time to test it until fixed.
jhvh1: asciilifeform: Error: "bc" is not a valid command.
asciilifeform: (there is a sigop limit, but no block seek thrash limit!)
asciilifeform: (a 2010 here, a 2011 there...)
asciilifeform: ( if you recall , that was when we had a trb node, offline, eat the complete chain to date from disk, with timer and valgrind going )
mircea_popescu: i think that's a fine example to be instrumented for study.
mircea_popescu: esp if you get it a little more detailed. per tx.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: next patch is a blockverify timer.
mircea_popescu: yeah. just, back on the 21st the problem happened ot be a pile of contrived blocks s'all.
asciilifeform: PeterL: so far i've found ~0 net effect. (earlier today thought that it was a net loss, but dulap caught up and stayed caught up.)
mircea_popescu: there is some value in node discovery, but there's a major problem with the socket starvation.
PeterL: seems like a ping, pong is not a big change, but I guess I see your point. Is there any benefit to it, or is it strictly noise?
a111: Logged on 2017-02-21 17:43 asciilifeform: could simply add anybody who emits a 'ping' to banlist.
asciilifeform: given that contract is a thing only to the people in it -- sure.
ben_vulpes: there is no bar to presentation of previously signed documents at a later point.
ben_vulpes: a contractual relationship between republicans.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: we briefly had a case of an interactive wife here, davout's
ben_vulpes: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-02-21#1616348 << do "marriage" and "divorce" even have much of a place in the republic? ☝︎
asciilifeform: classical trb did not have a nondisconnectable marker for peers; would not connect to localhost; and deprioritized non-8333 ports to dead-last order. 'wires' fixes this.
asciilifeform: shinohai: it's a prereq for using 'g' or any similar item
ben_vulpes: looks like a rerun
mircea_popescu: but in any case the pressurizing of a gas won't yield significant caloric capacity to matter in this discussion.
mircea_popescu: point being, a gas phase lifeform is rather unlikely, and a solid phase one'd be utterly slow.
mircea_popescu: yes, so there's a latent phasechange heat of what, 17k or so, roughly 4 degree's worth.
mircea_popescu: it is a proxy of molecular interaction strength.
mircea_popescu: "pour ammonia on it" won't work nearly as well when your alt-lifeforms manage to start a kitchen fire out of icecubes and alt-wood shavings.
ben_vulpes: aka heat required to raise a gram of the material 1c
mircea_popescu: this makes it a major schelling point for lifebuilding. do you know of an alternative material or combination that could serve ?
mircea_popescu: understand that water is important because it does (at least) two pumps simultaneously. firstly the heat pump, secondly the synthesis pump. it is : a) an oxide (this means it doesn't burn -- not just "not in oxygen" but not in general, few elements are more reacrtive to substitute) which b) has an immense caloric capacity and also c) is a very powerful universal solvent.
ben_vulpes: the search for life that's more or less pretty much just like us, so far away as to provide a nice escape out of having to do anything other than write grants
veen: https://archive.is/x57D1 << "NASA…has discovered a new solar system [with] three [planets] that sit squarely in the so-called ‘habitable zone,’ meaning that there is the potential for liquid water: the key for life on another planet."
mircea_popescu: that's the source of humour : that he's a walking stereotype and apparently unaware.
asciilifeform: seems like somebody flipped a sign bit somewhere.
mircea_popescu: a man with a functionally inadequate reproductive organ has adorned his squalid abode with what purports to be cocaine.
asciilifeform: in other noose, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/jJ7iS/?raw=true << on a traditional (zoolag) trb node. i never once saw these in past log readings, and now they are quite common.
asciilifeform: there is a dark heathen world of proprietary ada compilers, mostly for winblowz, but they are so rare, you will find them on no warez, anywhere.
asciilifeform: problem is: you need a working existing ada !
a111: Logged on 2015-02-17 23:08 asciilifeform: gnat-4.3.5 is a working gentoo ebuild
asciilifeform: in other lulz, 'IN THE PURSUIT OF UNTHINK In order to let our collective curiosities be the ultimate guide in our journey to pursue the meaningful opportunities of tomorrow, we are always looking to assemble a talent pool, that is not just content with thinking differently, but thinks a whole lot differently. We like to call this phenomenon 'unthink' and Gaditek is 'where unthink is'.' ( http://www.gaditek.com -- runs a prb node. )
asciilifeform: 'The oldest version that was checked is 2.6.18 (Sep 2006), which is vulnerable. However, the bug was introduced before that, probably in the first release with DCCP support (2.6.14, Oct 2005). The kernel needs to be built with CONFIG_IP_DCCP for the vulnerability to be present. A lot of modern distributions enable this option by default.'
asciilifeform: but meanwhile, in comedic theatre, https://archive.is/NvRz0 >> 'This is an announcement about CVE-2017-6074 [1] which is a double-free vulnerability I found in the Linux kernel. It can be exploited to gain kernel code execution from an unprivileged processes.'
asciilifeform: in other noose, the goodbye_pingers experiment is not a mega-success, dulap is 30+ blox behind
mircea_popescu: and bitcoin is really a terrible network
mircea_popescu: well... it's a alright. the i...
mircea_popescu: you may find a maximum, but it will be localized. this is no good.
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes some basis upon which a single authority may stand. see the problem with the reality function is that it does not have calculable maxima.
mircea_popescu: much like ancient chinese emperors had a very firm limit on their reign. no matter what anyone said, their divinity however described still ends one day.
mircea_popescu: anyway, there's a common thread going through the google go ai, attempts to "secure the banking system against risk", the surveillance state / internet of things / smart cars and so on. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: how exactly "in order for you to exist, water must be pink and freely float in the atmosphere" turned into "fact: water is pink and freely floats in the atmosphere" has a lot to do with the hidden "i necessarily must exist" prior.
mircea_popescu: this is correct, but also hardly a fact. just the constraint.
mircea_popescu: yes yes, except it's as far from a fact as it could possibly get. it is, in nucet, the HOPE of usg "ai" work.
ben_vulpes: "Fact: Adversarial examples generalize across models trained to perform the same task, even if those models have different architectures and were trained on a different training set. This means an attacker can train their own model, generate adversarial examples against it, and then deploy those adversarial examples against a model they do not have access to."
mircea_popescu: hanbot that's a pretty freaky series you got going there
mircea_popescu: "he was a senvernor you know!"
BingoBoingo: Carter was terrified by a bunny rabbit
mircea_popescu: besides, if he has it on him, you know, like in a "sikrit place" like the whitehouse tree fort or under the covers, it could stagefright/illuminate teh "sikrits" usg supposedly has.
mircea_popescu: "and it'll piss a little on the courts too. seems like a great move. are you ready to suck the cock yet ?"
mircea_popescu: "this is an experiment to establish the density of water. we will be using a densometer to measure it, expect to see values in so and so range, for so and so reasons" etc.