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asciilifeform: phf: i was given him as a paid support .

phf: i don't know anyone who has direct line of communication to kalman, short of dks, but brad parker is notoriously spotty at communication and 4 emails is ~simply not enough~

asciilifeform: the thing that boggles my mind, mircea_popescu , is that quite a few of these people ~knew~ what i was trying to do, and did not want it to happen.

mircea_popescu: i'm saying you can't rely on it always working! cache misses are a thing, local maxima capture is a thing, whadda ya want

mircea_popescu: i'm not saying it never works!

mircea_popescu: nor do i mean it as a belittlement. obviously train runs on tracks, car runs on road but lower efficiency ; 4wd needs not road even worse efficiency etc. you are what you are -- but just so, the problem is what it is.

asciilifeform: i wrote to more or less everybody who more or less so much as mentioned having heard of a lispm.

mircea_popescu: and this is a very important point, and cogent throughout, including re trb-i design

asciilifeform: i dun have 10`000 whores.

asciilifeform: i definitely was not 'limited to googling.'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i was answering, in extended form, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-11#1624984 ☝︎

mircea_popescu: you know exactly what i'm saying. peak talk is no solution to bad index.

asciilifeform: i wrote to him as a LICENSED BUYER

asciilifeform: i wrote to motherfucking kalman reti, phf

asciilifeform: also i WROTE TO BRAD PARKER 4 TIMES

phf: well, we've established that whatever i'm doing in that space is avocation. so the "worth" is entirely subjective

asciilifeform: i also suspect that the folks sitting on 4-10k worth of 'ivories' don't relish them suddenly being worth what nintendo is worth.

mircea_popescu: i can't bring myself to move my piss away from dks, or anyone in his generation's face. ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-03-11 00:42 phf: the timing of this rant is amusing, because i'm flying out to dks's tomorrow. which is why last time we talked about it i ~explicitly asked you not to rant about this in public~. if nobody cares about symbolics proper, then people certainly do care about the fickle opinions of older men, who are sitting on irreplaceable treasure troves of smbx technology.

mircea_popescu: but fwiw, i don't credit the "irreplaceable treasure" theory.

asciilifeform: i don't have a cable into their heads, cannot say for certain what the cockroaches therein were doing.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: since '09 or so i was one of very few people publicly interested in reversing the bolix gear. and apparently ~all of the aficionados, saw me as 'dangerous fool' who 'might piss off dks'...

mircea_popescu: phf so far i'm just trying to probe this crater, i have nfi what's going on.

asciilifeform: i won't telepsychoanalyze phf or any other of the other folx. but i gotta wonder wtf was in their heads.

phf: i think the implication is that "whisperers" are so poor (being dirty redditors) they can't even buy a cheap fpga

asciilifeform: also phf yes i recall why you were going. but in light of the instruction set being out... my mind boggles, why to bother with ANYTHING but fpgaization pronto.

phf: fwiw, i'm not buying "old iron", and you'll know why i'm going there if you dig up literally the last set of pms we exchanged.

asciilifeform: after i spent 1k of own funbux, and 9k of usa's, in his shop.

asciilifeform: ( to go on the board of a rebuilt smbx co ?? i have nfi. )

asciilifeform: it is very obviously something else. but what that something else is -- i am not privy to.

asciilifeform: phf: i have 0 idea of what is the goal of others. can only infer.

asciilifeform: i can't speak for others, but my objective since day 0 has been to get that instruction set.

phf: the timing of this rant is amusing, because i'm flying out to dks's tomorrow. which is why last time we talked about it i ~explicitly asked you not to rant about this in public~. if nobody cares about symbolics proper, then people certainly do care about the fickle opinions of older men, who are sitting on irreplaceable treasure troves of smbx technology. ☟︎

asciilifeform: it's one thing to scan schematics, and post, i forgive phf for not having gotten around to this chore (he proclaimed to intend it a year or so ago iirc) because it is a heavy labour

asciilifeform: i have deeply nfi

asciilifeform: i seriously have nfi! what, all of you people thought 1) smbx has a commercial future 2) it will punish you for leaking (or reward for silence ?!!!)

asciilifeform: made friends with d00d who worked in ai lab, he gave me a working alpha (i was a student, and had $0) and FULL set of bolix docs. which i still have.

asciilifeform: (for instance, in that YEAR i could have been making one. was quite inclined to, but didn't have the instruction set !!)

asciilifeform: Framedragger: tbh i have nfi if he knew

Framedragger: yeah but that's what i meant by same, gave closed copy the source version of which was available (and known to him, presumably?)

asciilifeform: even gave me an 'illicit' copy of snap5, when i bought a genera license for my usg lab at the time

Framedragger: lol, what can i tell you, sad state of affairs

Framedragger: i don't think he meant himself, but rather other, external wots.

phf: yes, but i can't speak for other "whisperers"

asciilifeform: first thing i did when i got hold of it is to put on warez, worldwide, same day

asciilifeform: for instance, i struggled to find the genera source, and then YEARS later i found out that 'the whisperers' have been quietly passing it around ☟︎

asciilifeform: phf: i publicly struggled with reversing every piece of smbx gear i could get my hands on. chronicled on my www.

asciilifeform: i assume he 'assumed that asciilifeform knew' ...

asciilifeform: i even mentioned it before... http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-12#1466172 ☝︎

asciilifeform: (i came back to it regularly, whenever didn't feel like working on anything else)

asciilifeform: if some unknown d00d had not written to me last night, even now i might be doing it ☟︎

asciilifeform: phf, incidentally, do you know that i blew MONTHS, if you add it up, possibly most of a year of life, sawing open 'snap4' genera in ida ? ☟︎

Framedragger: ...yeah, i think that the proper way to do it then is to take entire disk, populate it with things to a high degree and (somehow) with enough spatial dispersion, and benchmark, and restart entire thing between benchmarks.

asciilifeform: is all you will ever need to drive the kbd (which kbd? EITHER of the 2 that they made, i have'em both here, and though their design differs electrically, they both obey this protocol )

Framedragger: ah i noted this myself and forgot, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-06#1622466 ☝︎

Framedragger: right, yeah, but the (really) random seeks.. i hoped to tumble it a bit at least

asciilifeform: can i download phf's mac-patched, actually-builds genera somewhere ? or do i have to knock on a naugahyde-covered door in the bar from lsl and whisper 'ken sent me' and knock 3 times..?

asciilifeform: srsly, genera src was up since 2009, and I NEVER FOUND IT

asciilifeform: (i reverse-engineered the kbd, pretty sure was the first to publicly do so and post on www, you can build converter)

asciilifeform: phf: yeah i'm not sure why a xl1201 owner would even need the console

phf: no, just haven't shipped it. i've been waiting for some friends to do west coast/east coast drive, but those always seem to NOT happen when you actually need them. i can boot it to do remote x11 though, was configured with the assumption that it will boot blind

phf: no no, i'm missing console at the moment

Framedragger: i must write a short comedy screenplay for how discussions develop in #trilema. "i want to take a picture" ... ... ... [intense calculations of incident gamma rays to reclaim lost pixels in images] [furious rehash of late renaissance representationalism]

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i meant 1 particular box

asciilifeform: the box i'm sitting in front of, draws 300w. this is not much.

asciilifeform: (i measured. and you, also, oughta measure, this is the kind of thing to be aware of in a well-run household)

asciilifeform: as i said just few min ago,

a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 23:27 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, i started at one point to do it, and realized 'wtf why'

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624795 << fwiw i have one written. it can do an equivalent of pgpdump, but knows only a subset of packet types. if there's any interest i can drive it towards a specific goal ☝︎

Framedragger: asciilifeform: i thought that's why folks use CLOCK_MONOTONIC? i guess the irony is that it's not..monotonic in the end, still. :(

Framedragger: i actually did check what was available before deciding on clock measurement yknow. but yah, need to try rdtsc

Framedragger: ah that i've heard of. not without its problems iirc

Framedragger: allegedly this is what folks use for high precision profiling. i checked and wrote trivial version of that. but yah, clock_gettime()

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i hate to break this sad noose, but nothing on a konsoomer pc is accurate to ns

mircea_popescu: i do not trust his clock ; seems to be accurate within a few ms at best.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: his fopen() is smaller than a princely ssd's seek time. so thereby i could tell, his measurements had cache in play

Framedragger: (ya i know you pissed on it)

Framedragger: ACID is not a bad idea yknow. i wonder if you could accomplish what you wanted with dirty slave reads via streaming replication or sth. but, eh. bbl, food

mircea_popescu: Framedragger i just meant "don't fucking rebalance my tree, behind the scenes, idiot!"

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha, i started at one point to do it, and realized 'wtf why' ☟︎

a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 19:38 asciilifeform: trinque: then i'll need a cl pgp parser

asciilifeform: ( he asked 'what do' and i answered 'take all tx, from first to top of currentheight, and count how many share their senior 32bit )

Framedragger: (also just for poterity it's not like you can't tell a decent db which indexing mechanism it should use. but i agree with main 'general tools are ~meh' sentiment)

a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 19:34 asciilifeform: Framedragger: i am increasingly finding that 'general purpose db' is, like the infamous 'vise-grip', The Wrong Tool For Every Job

Framedragger: ftr i didn't every say it was the right thing for bitcoin with uniformly distributed hashspace

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, no, nothing of the kind. i was contemplating no hardware whatsoever, just the tower of crud that builds up to consumer fs

asciilifeform: (i sat down with the ext4 thing and very quickly came to the conclusion that it, and every other konsoomer fs, is 'pessimized' for our specific scenario)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: aha! which is why i published an algo with 0 rebalance, today.

a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 22:23 mircea_popescu: im not against the idea in the slightest. i'm just very unpersuaded by the theory hard drives work, to any spec, in any sanemanner.

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624688 << if you're thinking of the iron failing -- i operate disks in raid5 (and for past couplea years -- raid5 of ssd; on this particular box in this particular room, for instance, 4 x 1tb ssd) : 0 detectable failures-with-loss of any kind. ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624681 << fwiw i've used raw hdd for actual work. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 19:19 asciilifeform: for completeness, i will note that you can model any 'whole disk' variant with an enormous flat file, in userland, at some speed penalty.

a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 19:11 asciilifeform: ( i wonder if there are any traditional fs that will actually give you 16G of contiguous blocks, if asked nicely )

a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 18:57 asciilifeform: i'd like to think of an elegant solution to this

a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 18:24 Framedragger: while at it, and i'm guessing it's in the logs.., i wonder when was the last time some tried to come up with an approximation what the costs to get to >50% network hashing power would be

mod6: perhaps not. i like that we're thinking about things like this though.

a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 18:12 asciilifeform: ( i can already picture mircea_popescu spitting out his breakfast, 'modern hdd dun have cylinder, you nut' -- except, it in effect DOES, fetches massive blox , whether mechanical or ssd, by design, for ages now )

mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-10#1624395 << your emulator stil lsucks what can i tell you. ai winter! ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2016-01-21 13:29 asciilifeform: 'if i make it what i think is the right size, it crashes!111'

a111: Logged on 2017-03-10 18:01 asciilifeform: trinque: i've found that 'kill', which syncs the db, followed by kill -9, which nukes shitoshi's pointless wait idiocy, worx 100%.