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Framedragger: (^ failed paste, nslookup yields 46.166.165.30, but no diff)
Framedragger: but mircea_popescu you of course know that lithuania is like 169% US's bitch. this was confirmed with drug market raids etc etc, but it's a generally known fact anyway. that being said, heh, cool.
Framedragger: i think i once contacted them about running a tor exit node there, they had said well if you put in your own reverse dns info for the ip block we give you then we 100% don't give a shit
Framedragger: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: ohey i know this hosting company :D the physical server is probably in šiauliai, a small town with good uplink heh
Framedragger: 64 bytes from hst-46-166-165-30.balticservers.eu
Framedragger: "unfortunately it is not as easy to go out of inner jail." << i picture here a seneca with a screwdriver
Framedragger: (also, nelson's rules: 1. most people are fools. 2. most authority is malignant. 3. God does not exist. 4. everything is wrong.)
Framedragger: The Web trivialized this original Xanadu model, vastly but incorrectly simplifying these problems to a world of fragile ever-breaking one-way links, with no recognition of change or copyright, and no support for multiple versions or principled re-use. Fonts and glitz, rather than content connective structure, prevail.""" <- sorry i get sentimental easily :/
☟︎ Framedragger: """It has always been much more ambitious, proposing an entire form of literature where links do not break as versions change; where documents may be closely compared side by side and closely annotated; where it is possible to see the origins of every quotation; and in which there is a valid copyright system-- a literary, legal and business arrangement-- for frictionless, non-negotiated quotation at any time and in any amount.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: re.
http://btcbase.org/log/2016-05-19#1468545 i spoke with smart folk and i'll consider writing a short design document of some kind, for general and specific criticism. fair warning, will also use that opportunity to to enquire how it can be funded by tmsr / whateva. because can't hurt.
☝︎ Framedragger: vc: it's cool that you don't preemptively block tor. (on that note, fuck cloudflare with a thousand rakes).
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: i ran out of popcorn so ordered some more but bitcoins are not confirming.... chinese hackers??? :/
Framedragger: vc: paid for a vps, lemme know if box 'hivc' becomes a nuisance in terms abuse complaints, willya :)
Framedragger: (man, i just remembered one of the reasons i started hanging around here. these characters and their stories..)
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: `nslookup` should say 185.100.85.212; maybe your overzealous hosts policy heh
Framedragger: vc: k, gotcha. thanks and that's useful to know
Framedragger: vc: natural follow-up question: do you think your ip space is included in things like fail2ban lists, then? :)
Framedragger: vc: re.
https://box.cock.li/ - do you tolerate responsible and low-bandwidth netscans (TCP SYN and/or ssh-keyscan (which doesn't attempt any ssh auth)) perchance?
Framedragger: right, i'll do that, but later. sorry for not being specific, just wanted to rant, which is not too constructive
Framedragger: now i'll try scaleway / online.net and i don't use them for anything else so i'm fine with being banned. they said OK to my "responsible academic scanning" query. doesn't mean they'll follow through. but i'll just keep scanning / doing ssh extraction there, and rsyncing often, so that if/when i get eventually banned this wouldn't be a problem.
Framedragger: pleaded with them and they said okok we won't ban but don't do this again
Framedragger: digital ocean e.g. - scanned more than querter of ipv4 space using TCP SYN (masscan) - so just to see which :22 hosts are up - received numerous abuse complaints from all over the net, all forwarded to me
Framedragger: ah - sorry for not being specific - no i ceased activities,and they were fine. OVH i didn't even try, i sent a query first like a good house guest
Framedragger: more or less same from hetzner, digital ocean, and a local lithuanian provider which i've been using for a few years
Framedragger: Scanning ports is forbidden on our network. We cannot even do some exeption in our anti-hack detecting system just for your server." <- this is e.g. kimsufi/OVH who are otherwise not complete govt bitches (they appeal court orders, ran wikileaks servers, lots tor exit nodes etc - not to say that this amount to too much)
Framedragger: (but i didn't spend much time dealing with this lately, busy with afk stuff. however will return to quest soon)
Framedragger: (again, general ipv4 mapping is no prob, it's the more particular ssh key extraction that is slow and very hax0ry apparently)
Framedragger: (..in other news hosters seem to cave in to the "we gun ban your ip cause we saw three TCP SYN packets to :22 on our block" threats and do not allow any scanning whatsoever. online.net may be the exception and are cooperative, will see how they tolerate some scanz)
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ah i recall you mentioning need for real-time data spitting-out. again this can be worked out but i don't want to be presumptuous, as in, "omg this is easily sortable just use pr0xi". just sayin, worth considertaion, perhpas
Framedragger: asciilifeform: ^ sorry im making you repeat yourself
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: have you considered serving all phuctor public stuff on a static frontend proxy of sorts?
Framedragger: yeah korine is an interesting guy. the film itself is random as fuck. literally folks humping trash, and just doing other bizarre things throughout film. i'd say it's an intereseting experience, to watch it i mean, but i believe when i watched it i was on a bit of acid. dunno how it would have got with me being completely sane..
Framedragger: yeah seems to have worked for these low entropy pockets around stars, pretty nifty!!
Framedragger: ya, true. some dudes are selective but most are just desperate and/or can't be bothered. different algos so to speak, heh
Framedragger: [fwiw yeah +1 for tinder, though it does use effin facebook last i checked, etc etc, one more thing to re-build in a non-shitty fashion....]
Framedragger: you know, i'm not prepared to discuss it cause i'm out of my element here. i'll read more logs
Framedragger: mp_at_olivos: out of loop, but surely you mean more than one (unsigned) comment on a website?
Framedragger: shinohai: ah nice, should have known, worth a check thanks!
Framedragger: ..and then they render to pdf. but yeah good people also link to tex source on their websites, true..
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: but this means you preemptively dismiss, say (as an offhand example), lotsa mathematicians who put their stuff as preprints on arXiv and the likes. (generated with free software and renderable with free software (but, yes, using a shitty proprietary-wannabe format nonetheless))
Framedragger: p.s. so you don't read PDFs out of principle/security? i hear you.. but now i want to write some simple on-demand pdf to html converter just so i can send you goddamn PDFs to look at
Framedragger: yeah you know what, re. your idea, this is shit overwhelming, i'd also start with what you had in mind.. and think of simple markov models, etc.
Framedragger: all in academic circles (i can hear our snort from here heh:D ) resolve it to the other reference, mind you
Framedragger: heheh.. natural language folks actually employ NLP all the time, though it's become a bit of a catch-all shitty acronym, like A.I.
Framedragger: lol @ title on that cs.ox page "meets quantum info flow".. it's just that they use cool shit from category theory, tensors, etc.. but need to be careful not to be drawn into believing a priori what the people in the tower say
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: friend actually wrote is masters thesis on this iirc (not that you care about appeals to bureaucracy, i know) on this, i can later check for linx. new shit in town is compositional distributional models of semantics. see
http://www.cs.ox.ac.uk/activities/compdistmeaning/ - also i can dig up our application for funding for doing what you want to do i think :D
Framedragger: canyoubelieveit, i used *ssh*!!11 it's..super effective
Framedragger: oh mein gott, the language of these "abuse complaints"... your Server/Customer with the IP: [...] has attacked one of our servers/partners. The attackers used the method/service: *ssh*
Framedragger: man i'd like to learn knots. and with that, off to get some sleep
Framedragger: it can form some kind of series, piglets & shitty refrigerators with open shells, or whatever is running on the internet these days
Framedragger: BingoBoingo ahahah yeh let me tell you state of british children is something like in those pics..but ventilators, foreal? mein gott
Framedragger: they'd look like "31.204.153.252:22 SSH-2.0-OpenSSH_6.0p1 Debian-4+deb7u4"
Framedragger: (i did store the 'banners' associated with all those IPs though, would consider merging them into the CSVs to become comments. don't know how useful, but curious (e.g. whether weak device is an embedded appliance/router etc))
Framedragger: (scanning the whole ipv4 in the sense of "check if something's listening behind this port, for all IPs" is apparently the easy part, even with no/little investment. you don't need to use stateful sockets etc. extracting particular info after doing some back-and-forth is where it's harder to scale.)
Framedragger: asciilifeform et al.: a couple of representative ssh host key samples (e,N,ip_address) - two /8's - pipeline was masscan (sort of nmap+zmap with custom tcp stack) -> ssh-keyscan (manually parallelized) -> custom conversion into CSV
☟︎ Framedragger: ticket escalation process should include "organizational takeover" at some point
Framedragger: heheh. but YEAH, don't worry i haven't given up, formulating plan, meanwhile scanning continues because fuck 'em
Framedragger: (it came from hetzner btw where lotsa (by european folk standards anyway) 'shady' stuff runs and where quite a bit of hax0ring originates from)
Framedragger: maybe asciilifeform had a point about modern stupidity re. network. i've been very joyfully scanning on three non-amazon hosts and just received first abuse complaint. need to move ops to the likes of ukraine/bulgaria, lookslike! >.<
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