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asciilifeform: i suppose i should listen here as well
mircea_popescu: you need an account in the first place. other than that, the listing fees are negotiated as part of the listing process.
asciilifeform: played that as a boy
pankkake: ebay is a slow, bulky, money hungry monster. don't think they'll have bitcoin as a payment anytime soon
mircea_popescu: so nice to see the euro priced as a few bitcents
asciilifeform: pistons as wide as a man is tall
MCM-Mike: never tried Yamazaki, will give it a try . did you give it away because you didnt like it or as a gift ? :)
KRS1: I'm in south florida..IT sucks here..I figure if I can make it here I can make it anywhere. Pay is about the same as Atlanta
deadweasel: as long as it's in a lab, I wouldn't call it eradicated..
BingoBoingo: I mean their no social media site rule. What fucking websites can't qualify as social media.
BingoBoingo: The flamers on /r/Justice are lumping my blog in with CNN as sources non-grata while shit columns from local papers make it though.
gribble: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ahab | A guy who prefers screwing fat chicks, simple as that. Ahab is a reference to the captain of the ship that was chasing the giant white whale in Mob...
BingoBoingo: As far as I am concerned Ahab's mistake was he acted outside of his economic and mortal interests. His job was leading people to get oil, much as oil is gotten now. In bulk and fuck the source. No he wanted to kill one particular whale and passed the opportunity to kill so many others for their incredibly useful fuel.
BingoBoingo: Honestly I'd prefer a nice hefeweizen as breakfast, but OHNO WHEAT CALL THE PALEO POLIZE
BingoBoingo: Diablo-D3: Maybe as food. What do you know of their attitudes towards developing tools though. They obviously know we have the bomb. This isn't James Cameron Fern Gully part Dos.
BingoBoingo: Having gotten drunk watching Whale Wars last weekend I have to say my favorite ocean going ship now is the Nissin Maru. As delicious as land going pigs are I can only here imagine how delicious their larger ocean going brethren are.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo perhaps not the buffalo, as it's hidrated. basically a sack of proteins in solution.
BingoBoingo: As far as I know though from my little bit of having sat in classrooms even the simplest retroviruses tend to have more than a single protein involved, though the definition of single protein can be flexible enough to make possibly an entire buffalo just a carefully arranged protein
mircea_popescu: anyway, not what it's worth, but what it'd cost. as in, to make.
BingoBoingo: As is tuberculosis
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo inasmuch as the brain itself can't feel pain, sectioning of the spinal chord is pretty much it. hence the guillotine and such. probably the best solution there is, but derps don't like it because it's bloody
Duffer1: "We have a nice solution, and that is called The Bitcloud Cryptography Law (BCL). It is a serie of laws, an advanced version of Proof of Stake, implemented to ensure that everyone is acting as they should. Every single thing in the Bitcloud is governed by those laws, and there will be judges and veredicts, so only when the entire net agrees, money is generated or transactions approved."
Duffer1: it looks interesting, but they're already listed as a scamcoin
Duffer1: ffs you're killing a guy, just destroy the brain as quickly as possible
gribble: Nick 'manchbtcx', with hostmask 'manchbtcx!~manchbtcx@79.175.76.49', is identified as user 'manchbtcx', with GPG key id 565B736D8A37BA3D, key fingerprint E36C7C1537187600082D45BC565B736D8A37BA3D, and bitcoin address 12LQZz3wGqxiSG3f148uco6h9QWuVMW2NF
KRS1: Considering the political and economic climate, its almost as if the timing of bitcoin is god-like.
truffles: rarely do i use it as a perjorative
Apocalyptic: truffles, do you think of yourself as a nerd ?
deego: cripple->handicapped->special needs. But, soon, the latest comes to be regarded as insulting..
deego: Apocalyptic: heh, I think challenged and special have become pejorative as well :)
KRS1: I'm not very polically correct. I might have to work on that this year too, but then again it doesn't bother me. Retards are known as mentally handicapped these days.
davout: Apocalyptic: of course, the observation you make depends as much on what you observe than it depends on from where you observe it
mircea_popescu: it gets easier as you age :)
KRS1: Thats very impressive to say the least. I've recently been involved in a conversation of the value of a college degree in the modern I.T. job market. I've actually been laughed at for thinking it has value in these waters. I suppose, even if I did waste my time with a degree in this field, being open minded and thinking critically are benefits that have value regardless. Such as the
KRS1: Impressive. Almost as if you were able to see the future, perhaps by understanding how the problem will play out. I suppose your understanding of philosophy was useful here.
mircea_popescu: yeah, as if anyone could possibly confuse derpcoin for bitcoin.
KRS1: initially i saw it as a dilution of bitcoin
asciilifeform: - As told to Associated Press correspondent Charles Foltz, 1936. (For those interested in going to the library for a fact-check, the quote can be found in Paul Preston, “The Spanish Civil War 1936-1939,” pp. 104-105 [Dorsey Press edition].)
asciilifeform: "Sewers caused all our troubles. The masses of this country are not like your Americans, nor even like the British. They are slave stock. They are good for nothing but slaves and only when they are used as slaves are they happy. But we, the decent people, made the mistake of giving them modern housing in the cities where we have our factories. We put sewers in these cities, sewers which extend right down to the ☟︎
asciilifeform: misread as 'stealing as a service'
mircea_popescu: sealing as a searvice!
asciilifeform: and the bitcoin source struck me as ugly and 'surely full of strange'
asciilifeform: (bitcoin superficially resembled some of my own unpublished crackpottery, and the differences struck me as 'insecure')
pankkake: the "babes" posts of shows are pretty sad, as most of the girls aren't very attractive. or dressed like shit
mircea_popescu: (Protip: It’s frowned upon when you actually put “booth babes” as line item in your budget).
mircea_popescu: " CueCats were also bulk mailed (unsolicited) to certain mailing lists, such as subscribers of technology magazines Forbes and Wired."
mircea_popescu: there are some trilkema articles but they be in romanian as this is pre-change
pankkake: Duffer1: the colored coin thing is weird, yes… as if the risk was in the exchange
Duffer1: i don't know why i even read that thread, it's just as stressful to me as the labcoin nonsense and i don't even own any actm
asciilifeform: clever fellow figured out how to use cuecat as a generic scanner, the bastards sued
mircea_popescu: i was keeping this as my personal private chuckle re all the ninnies with the qr codes that revolutionise w/e the fuck
mircea_popescu: unclehowell as far as anyone knows, you're some guy that started talking the moment he joined and what he had to say was some sales angle. this is exactly how to end up on the ignore list of half the chan within five minutes, and on the mocklist of half the rest.
asciilifeform: as for the political component, zimmerman already fucked the public goat with the closed-source 'silent circle'
mircea_popescu: this works sort-of well, until you end up with things like... i dunno, every show on tv being a honeypot by this approach, as well as every newspaper and most of everything else, cause they damn sure don't work for the advertised/intended purposes.
asciilifeform: (discrediting 'counter-nsa' tech as crackpottery, for instance.)
mircea_popescu: except the entire thing is directly the result of political negotiation, as an exchange of power.
KRS1: "Experts" say bitcoin will be as low as $10 this year.
mircea_popescu: they came out as no :D
BingoBoingo: Lol, the comments and the not grep that the value of the price of risk keeps changing as more people want to buy risk
ystarnaud: maybe not as many people
mircea_popescu: it'll get confusing as all hell because s.mpoe actually pays divs same month *most* months
mike_c: as a matter of fact there is :) http://www.btcalpha.com/mpex/stocks/s-mpoe/
jurov: nope. if mpex pays 19btc to 100bn shares, it shows as 1 satoshi per share
mike_c: i believe satoshi per share is accurate. at least, it is the same as on mpex
mike_c: mircea_popescu: the table is aligned as designed. whether it's clear is another question. I went with showing the dividends in the month they were paid, which is generally the month after the profit was earned.
mircea_popescu: didn't you just call the guy a nerd for not being as stupid as you'd like people to be generally ?
KRS1: They make time to read what they are looking for, as long as its delivered to them in a way they can digest it, I suppose. For instance, I read the Wall St. Journal primarily for the Marktplace section. I get and enjoy information from other parts as a side benefit.
KRS1: I see twitter as a different type of tool than a blog, not more or less important.
nubbins`: yeah, tried 12.04 as well, didn't have much luck there either
nubbins`: hm, trying to run ubuntu from usb, gets as far as "Stopping enable remaining boot-time encrypted block devices [OK]" and stops
mircea_popescu: as there's only 20 years between the two wars, and plenty of locales changed hands multiple times... it happens.
mircea_popescu: just as long as the promise isn't to pay in specie and in one go, it still can stand.
asciilifeform: 'robin hood' is good fun so long as you're on the correct end of him, yes
asciilifeform: because then the tx can be flagged as weird
mircea_popescu: wouldn't the addrs actually be used as payload then ?
mircea_popescu: as citizen-judges didn't quite grok the abyss.
BingoBoingo: This sounds like the sort of case where BitBet could replace the court as a solution and to the laundering. Step one. Take positions on a Difficulty bet paying out to addresses with publicized different owners as well as addresses with unknown owners.
mircea_popescu: this actually works as an argument. bitcoin needs no assaying, which makes it more fungible than something that does.
asciilifeform: fungibility in this case is an ideal, not the actual reality on the ground (atoms of Au are fungible, btc aren't - at least, as presently implemented)
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform all coins are and will remain equal. this is the concept known as fungibility.
asciilifeform: as i understand, not too many people are presently concerned with dirt
jborkl: I blew a 1 and a 0 as I enteredbit
decimation: as long as you can find a greater fool
decimation: it's really a bet that the difficulty won't go up as much as everyone hopes/fears in the future
decimation: If you can purchase a miner in bitcoin though, that counts as a bitcoin investment
Duffer1: but not as valuable as just buying btc and holding for that same perior
decimation: as in, mining bitcoin
decimation: Most fiat companies use buybacks to pump up the stock price as ceo's sell their own shares
truffles: might as well since he's not here
BingoBoingo: I believe as long as there is someting verifiable it should be good.
mircea_popescu: Apocalyptic the "zero asset" thing is a term of art. a company that retains none of its income but distributes it all as dividends.
Duffer1: "Actually useful websites like crypto-trade or havelock as well as coloured coins will continue to gain traction as this shitty scheme dies out."
Apocalyptic: "Usually a holding company is an asset-less company" what, I thought a holding company holds share of other companies, which are classified as assets
mike_c: it's defined as 0 book value.
Apocalyptic: <pankkake> well then is there such a thing as a zero asset company? // how would you define it ?
mike_c: i possibly made up that term as a differentiator from mp's "nonzero asset corporation"
pankkake: well then is there such a thing as a zero asset company?
Apocalyptic: mike_c, regarding your BitBet and MPex analysis on btcalpha, you claim these are "zero-asset company". I don't think this term is appropriate as they hold at the very least intangible assets such as goodwill resulting from their userbase and the reputation among other things
benkay: speaking as someone who ekes out the odd food credit derping on django, shit has no future.
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