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gribble: Pierre_Rochard was last seen in #bitcoin-assets 2 days, 16 hours, 21 minutes, and 19 seconds ago:
<Pierre_Rochard> thestringpuller: because people like the author think Bitcoin _actually_ is a ponzi scheme and that they have to help attract greater fools, so public relations / appearance/ etc are super important to -sell- bitcoin to the unsuspecting masses
fluffypony:
<+ben_vulpes> what happened to the mining rig rack fab operating out of africa?
<- that's going extremely well - we showed off the ASIC rack prototypes to those interested at Inside Bitcoins earlier in the year, and a couple of months later we got a lucrative exclusive contract to supply a farm, so we won't be selling the frames commercially until June next year (if at all). the GPU frames we still sell, although that market has slowed
ben_vulpes:
<mike_c> kakobrekla: someone told me recently I should hire slovenians to build a mobile app for me. do you know anyone in that industry in your neck of the woods?
<< perhaps consider my humble app factory
ben_vulpes:
<mats> afaik the cost of serious physics research runs well into nine digits
<< if not twelve.
ben_vulpes:
<danielpbarron> heh, i've robotripped a few times
<< danielpbarron you are delightfully eccentric
ben_vulpes:
<fluffypony> that particular one is a payment processor
<< what happened to the mining rig rack fab operating out of africa?
BingoBoingo:
<ryanxcharles> hey friends, just a comment re: javascript... personally, i think all variables should be global, and all numbers should be floating points
<< Am I still tripping?
mircea_popescu: fluffypony: so now you have to symlink it because half the shit expects "node" and the other half expects "nodejs"
<<< bwahahaha you guise, stahp.
mircea_popescu: mats: 'Javascript is the languge of heaven. It is the right choice for every programming task.'
<< :D
mircea_popescu: nubbins`: way to argue the null case ;p
<< no but it was relevant in context.
nubbins`:
<+mircea_popescu> they're just numbers, like any other numbers, exactly so.
nubbins`:
<+BingoBoingo> The fuckers, part of his pre-trial release conditions was a prohibition on alcohol, 21st amendment yo!
<<< i have a friend prohibited from imbibing for 4 years as part of the punishment for a drug offense
nubbins`:
<+mircea_popescu> they're just numbers, like any other numbers, exactly so.
<<< o.0
nubbins`:
<+mircea_popescu> but the principle remains. "small integers" are not in fact either small or integers but for our perspective.
<<<< o.O
punkman: mircea_popescu: punkman: yeah and maybe indian/chinese guy watered field with sewage
<< actually good for it.
<< sewage is good for tea?
punkman: mircea_popescu: punkman no notary still ?
<< good night's sleep and not busy today, shall make progress
mircea_popescu:
<asciilifeform> this is the correct use for the 'i dun wanna learn a second programming language' folks.
<< liek the ppl that want everything to be lisp ? :D
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: "we are stupid but don't like to admit it"
<< this is good critera for sending derps off to asciilifeform derper's retirement camp.
mircea_popescu: undata> "Javascript is actually in demand now for good reason.
<< "we are stupid but don't like to admit it" being the reason.
mircea_popescu:
<thestringpuller> You can't make this shit up.
<< word.
mircea_popescu:
<asciilifeform> usg has more-or-less 'sat' upon the idle rich
<< the 'idle' (what does this mean?
<< the early modern period had ample supply of this particular type. literally, idle.
thestringpuller: asciilifeform: should not have had access to any technology more complex than pitchfork.
<< but isn't this how ignorant mobs form? as much as I like a pitchfork mob....
undata: "Javascript is actually in demand now for good reason. Node.js is a powerful tool for specific applications and you no longer need to know 2 languages if you go the full JS stack."
<< I call this single-step reasoning. It's everywhere.
BingoBoingo:
<asciilifeform> usg has more-or-less 'sat' upon the idle rich
<< the 'idle' (what does this mean? presumably, not occupied with directing a megacorp?) rich still exist. they spend on coke and orbital flights with hookers, not rebuilding of computing.
<< The conversion of cocaine from productivity aide to party favor has probably been one of the msot damaging transitions of this last hundred years
ben_vulpes:
<asciilifeform> part of eternal quest for 'write in bed' machine
<< macbook air?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: usg annihilated science to an extent no one ever, i suspect, thought of as possible.
<< lol not so. again the chinese lead. they burned the books 2x.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: if rifles could only be produced in 12 places on the planet, most fighting would still be conducted with spears and axes.
<<< there's a lot of depth to this observation. for instance :
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: would have to give enough of a shit to fund, but not enough to attempt to direct. this will happen shortly after pigs fly.
<< incidentally, this is why the idle rich are so important irl.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform: part of eternal quest for 'write in bed' machine
<< i hate writing in bed.
mircea_popescu:
<asciilifeform> i wouldn't mind a car that runs on farts, if it were possible at home.
<< can you imagine hpow that'd go ? how it'd smell ? how uncomfortable the gas pipe'd get ?
decimation: asciilifeform: "US Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act...'
<< obey or gasenwagen!"
<< USG generally has no problem giving commands to 'technical people' in its Vader Voice
mircea_popescu: punkman: yeah and maybe indian/chinese guy watered field with sewage
<< actually good for it.
mircea_popescu: punkman: 10 GBP for truck mail? that's highway robbery
<<< no, it's... AIRWAY ROBBERY
assbot: Logged on 10-12-2014 06:35:49; ben_vulpes:
<danielpbarron> well my having not done it doesn't matter as i'm no longer a lord
<< when did this happen?
punkman: decimation: I guess my question above (rephrased) is this: does the secp256k1 algorithm allow for any arbitrary 256 bit vector to be used as a key? Or is there a restricted set that will be more secure than other cases?
<- exponent must be smaller than curve order, which is 0xfffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffebaaedce6af48a03bbfd25e8cd0364141
ben_vulpes:
<danielpbarron> well my having not done it doesn't matter as i'm no longer a lord
<< when did this happen?
☟︎ ben_vulpes:
<undata> it's this social progress thing
<< sounds like it's time to have another dinner party
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> and his (alleged) plan to buy back 'respectability' with money is uncharacteristically foolish
<< i didn't read any such plan in there. just, "i want money" "what for ?" "fuck you lol:
BingoBoingo:
<asciilifeform> and his (alleged) plan to buy back 'respectability' with money is uncharacteristically foolish
<< Respect comes from the buyers returning it, like the many "Gems"
mircea_popescu:
<decimation> eh? weren't nearly all the 'returning jews' from german backgrounds?
<< yep.
decimation:
http://imgur.com/79DTA7H << "By 2020, current cost trends will lead to an average cost of between $15 billion and $20 billion for a leading-edge fab, according to the report. By 2016, the minimum capital expenditure budget needed to justify the building of a new fab will range from $8 billion to $10 billion for logic, $3.5 billion to $4.5 billion for DRAM and $6 billion to $7 billion for NAND flash, according to the report."
mircea_popescu:
<asciilifeform> decimation: why would iranian ministry of nukes run winblows
<<< recall that buenos aires pantalla ?
mircea_popescu:
<decimation> Is there a similar procedure for ECDSA?
<< sort-of. the exponent is ideally chosen randomly as well as the index.
mircea_popescu:
<asciilifeform> how many u.s. expats are willing to, say, break their backs doing actual work for the locals ?
<< all women that i ever met. srsly.
mircea_popescu:
<undata> or hell, loot the nearest shoe store for some nikes if that's all you can muster
<< petty crime is really a very poor plan.
decimation: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: deterministic wallets
<< the ware that someone dropped in the chan a few days ago was amusing: you enter you die rolls on the command line (history!) and then it converts to 'diceware' string, and then it takes a sha256 hash
kakobrekla:
<EPiSKiNG-> all those WoT ratings, and assbot has no love
< this thing apparently works, those ratings are useless
undata: +asciilifeform | mircea_popescu: most u.s. subjects don't have an obvious rational action to follow the awakening of 'aha so i'm living in a zoo run by demented vivisectionists, now i need to...'
<< make money and gtfo in my case
UltimateNate:
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mircea_popescu:
<asciilifeform> - that is, who do you wish to see win?
<<< seems rather uncontroversial by now that the us is a rogue state. at least to my eyes. but in two years of this we've yet to meet somerone who actually believes the us to be anything but a criminal organisation.
mircea_popescu:
<mats> in my opinion, this is a fundamentally irreconcilable difference between govt agents and intel agents
<< idealised intel agents. like idealised doctors or lawyers, doing "liberal professions". like naggum's idealised "real programmers". problem is, these people don't exist in the counts you might wish to employ. they exist in short supply.
mircea_popescu:
<mats> i get the impression that most americans accept as fact that torture is ineffective
<< for sure. do you know what else they accept ? that "free markets don't work" and that "socialism is democracy" and all sorts of similar things. do you know why they accept them ? because they want to believe. 16 yo 7/10 valley girl also believes she's "beautiful" and that "she really has a chance". why wouldn't she, as far as
mircea_popescu: mats> relying on a source that's been tortured, now, thats not useful, but thats why you verify the information...
<< it's complicated. generally, by the time you have to torture people you're dead in the water.
mircea_popescu:
<thestringpuller> is it weird
<< notrly. like you know, if you hear a "sailor" talk about "Ships falling off the earth margin" you can also suspect they're the 15yo fibbing variety of seawolf.