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mircea_popescu: better post http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-06#1858801 than pre, it is true, but still. ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: my profession the saeculum in fact reduces to 'cut'em up and try load into head, sawing through active resistance by orig author'. it is possible to attempt it. and there are other people whose profession is to lift heavy objects in the circus. but they will not be lifting garbage truck.
mircea_popescu: and i have done a moderately shitty job of having loaded in head the entire linux backports project.
mircea_popescu: you have currently [done a very poor job] of having loaded in head all binary turds used by all proprietary crap you use.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, there's no such thing as the option of whether to load or to not load. if it runs -- you're loading.
mircea_popescu: the difference between the bank clerk who "knows how to run excel" and alf, who can produce cp101a, is not, as you think, "has loaded in head ?". because bank girl has, after a fashion, to inept standards, somewhat loaded windows in head. that your loading is better than her loading is true, and that items move from worse to better in hands of republic and from better to worse in hands of empire is also true.
asciilifeform: for instance, i did not load bdb into head, and don't intend to try, i dun have the 20 yrs that it'd take.
asciilifeform: is to separate into parts that ~may~ be loadable , individually, in head.
mircea_popescu: this thing you call "digging through"... is in fact...
asciilifeform: or measure it for typhus. etc
asciilifeform: if pile of shit -- then all that remains is to dig through it, if must, for the gold ring in it.
mircea_popescu: because the "not loaded in head" thing is illusory. someone somewhere will.
asciilifeform: i dun see how it is not only not irrelevant, but in fact the ~only~ thing that's relevant when encountering a pile of coad.
mircea_popescu: there's no escape from the "any live code -- loaded in head" rule, and this is why you even get the "code -- small" tool.
asciilifeform: if coad was never loaded whole into a working head, it is not properly speaking an artificial object in the sense of being designed, but moar of an excretion, i.e. pile of shit
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform because idiots hallucinated the option of "not loading in head", the code in question now works as a sort of digital frontier : whoever loads more faster wins. hence "hackers".
mircea_popescu: that's the only distinction reality permits : between code that is run, and code that is not run. whether the task of stuffing it in head "is feasible" according to the head in question or any other heads is entirely irrelevant.
asciilifeform: if not loaded ~whole~, then not loaded in head.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: most of the extant liquishit was never loaded whole into any head. ( just as applicable to winblowz, openssl, crystalspace, etc. )
asciilifeform: i suspect there's a subtle thread there that i'm not grasping
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not simply 'does it run' but all of the possible states.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: pretty ordinary. i hear the chinese took it further still, if you want to rent a car there, gotta give'em gsm sim #, to get the latter, passport... etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and the only way for that to not have to happen is for someone to chisel down the 5mb. because your hallucinated "option" as to whether you load or not load has 0 bearing -- the only question is whether the 5mb run or don't run.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 15:48 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-06#1858956 << this view, sweet as all delusions ever are, nevertheless is not tenable. live code is live code, and that's the only categorical distinction. whether you'd like to eat the spitoon or not is a signal reality's not pulled out pins to capture.
mircea_popescu: pretty much all the empire shit works by this "only way to get an x is to link an x' to an y' to the x" device. by now it's actually usable as an empire-detecting heuristic. ☟︎
asciilifeform: i'd be quite surprised if called without having told'em where, lol
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 13:24 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the pnoje people called me at ~800hrs to confirm the # ; but apparently there's meat magic involved and it aint live yet ( lessee tomorrow )
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859386 << how the fuck did they have ~your~ number. ☝︎
trinque: nope, which is why I was curious where he got that number. guess if he wants to keep bidding to reach it, by all means!
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo he's with the boy scouts, wants to be prepared.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Are you calling the auction early or something?
a111: Logged on 2018-10-06 17:03 asciilifeform: this worx great for theorems, algos, but not so much for MB of coad soup
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-06#1858956 << this view, sweet as all delusions ever are, nevertheless is not tenable. live code is live code, and that's the only categorical distinction. whether you'd like to eat the spitoon or not is a signal reality's not pulled out pins to capture. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: we routinely do this to eg latins. applies just as well eveywhere.
mircea_popescu: from the anthropology/hoc pov, this is possibly the best example to point to when defending "civilisation had ended prior to 1990" thesis.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 13:22 asciilifeform: and yes i'd rather have 2 half-sized batts than 1 large, this is elementary, esp. given that the 'large' are made of N smalls
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 03:40 trinque: oh also BingoBoingo, pls to shoot me WU deets again at your convenience.
asciilifeform: granted, 'modern' lappies, with the 16:9 monstrosity, typically do have 1280+ horiz pixels.
asciilifeform: aaand that's if you can coax emacs into not wasting the 1st and last cols.
asciilifeform: e.g. the x60, has 1024.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 00:29 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859338 << afaik, also made this point. why the fuck bother with anything under 16 bold, what, they've won me at poker ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859362 << 16 (plain, no bolds) x 80 == 1280 min. horiz. pixels needed for this. ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: ( spoiler : they did not link to the l0gz... )
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in heathen lulz, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-09-22#1852860 turns out to be https://archive.is/vs21A : brazilian shitware, mostly for 'd-link' konsoomer routers ☝︎
asciilifeform: ( not peculiar to this vendor, apparently is the case for all of'em )
asciilifeform: also , for anyone who hadn't rtfm'd , 'tollfree' pnojeism worx only in usa . errybody else gets to call direct to the actual pnoje.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the pnoje people called me at ~800hrs to confirm the # ; but apparently there's meat magic involved and it aint live yet ( lessee tomorrow ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: and yes i'd rather have 2 half-sized batts than 1 large, this is elementary, esp. given that the 'large' are made of N smalls ☟︎
asciilifeform: but today it is only found in super-heaviweights ( e.g. lenovo 500 series ) afaik.
asciilifeform: and interestingly 'hole for 2nd battery' was not entirely unknown item, even in '90s ~crapple~, i have an example ( 'g3 pismo' ) box that took'em
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 00:28 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-07#1859325 << uterly indefensible choice, "we make lappy with ONE battery". all lappies of all time should have had two. so what if smaller two ? hotswappable!
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859359 << 1950s volkswagen , with its 2 tanks, had the right idea ☝︎
mircea_popescu is kinda curious to see mocky coming back for air!
a111: Logged on 2018-10-07 19:02 mod6: BingoBoingo: Please to bid 76M for hanbot's auction -- between this one and trinque's, we're already half-way there to next month. Not bad!
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-07#1859235 << glad to see working it's.. working! ☝︎
trinque: oh also BingoBoingo, pls to shoot me WU deets again at your convenience. ☟︎
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-05#1858745 << figure's there, just pop a 0. on the front end. ☝︎
trinque: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-07#1859242 << this wasn't you calculating the btc value of my auction, was it? ☝︎
deedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/ffytche/ << Trilema - ffytche
BingoBoingo: But naturally all of the pantsuit flavored publications are painting this as "Candidate Underwhelms By Failing To Avoid Runoff" instead of embarrassing overperformance versus their polls
BingoBoingo: In other local new, Make Brasil Great Again appears to have nearly outright won the presidency. Still waiting on official results, but instead of the 27-30% take he was supposedly polling now it is looking like a 45-50% take
BingoBoingo: At this point, untraining the hands is likely to be a challenge
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 00:12 BingoBoingo: The hands adjust
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859349 << not mine, wtf. let the kbds adjust. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-10-08 00:05 phf: i have this terminal at 16px :>
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-08#1859338 << afaik, also made this point. why the fuck bother with anything under 16 bold, what, they've won me at poker ? ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: but, by the time lappies started, thinking was long out of us process.
a111: Logged on 2018-10-07 23:59 phf: what's kind of silly and i think mp made that point a while ago, that none of the manufacturers of that vintage attempted to do a swapable battery. a dual battery slot, or a smaller internal battery that would keep the thing powered for ~60 seconds it takes to switch the battery
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-10-07#1859325 << uterly indefensible choice, "we make lappy with ONE battery". all lappies of all time should have had two. so what if smaller two ? hotswappable! ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: esp. pizarro voyages, these will always call for lightest available lappy, erry gram costs.
asciilifeform: i can easily see why mircea_popescu doesn't do lappies, and i wouldn't either if i didn't regularly get meself into adventures that require'em
BingoBoingo: I dunno, I think my hands have the stockholm syndrome pretty good on this issue
BingoBoingo: Aha, 8 fingers is part of the trick
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i've got pretty big hands, had to learn '8 fingers' typing on ye olde toshiba libretto back when had it
asciilifeform: i ordered a sample recently , just for the hell of it.
asciilifeform: phf: incidentally i found that sharp inc makes b&w lcd's that run on 0power when holding picture, and beautiful 100% reflector-powered picture. but their biggest is iirc 4 in. and 336 × 536 . ☟︎
BingoBoingo has been surviving on an X120e since before we started calling this thing TMSR
phf: eink screen, 4:3 aspect ratio, old thinkpad keyboard, 1 week battery life :p
asciilifeform: even if i finally crack the puzzler of c101pa boot and encuntooation -- thing's palpably small.
phf: i could read 9pix, but fuck that
phf: i have this terminal at 16px :> ☟︎
asciilifeform: and i suspect the x60 is at least partly answerable for their getting thicker
phf: i'm weird in that respect, i don't mind seeing pixels, reminds me of better times as far as computing. i make it extra ugly too, e.g. i run windowmaker, aliased fonts, the works
asciilifeform: phf: at one time there were rumours of a ips panel that could be stuffed into x60 and had compatible connector/timings , but afaik it's just that, rumour, i was never able to get close to one
asciilifeform: phf: screen is the big sad
phf: gut the x60 chassis, put rk in there, though you're still stuck with the screen
asciilifeform: phf: i have a massive lenovo tank lappy that takes 2 batts. but it was out of the question on acct of mass
asciilifeform: phf: thought about soldering a supercap in there
phf: what's kind of silly and i think mp made that point a while ago, that none of the manufacturers of that vintage attempted to do a swapable battery. a dual battery slot, or a smaller internal battery that would keep the thing powered for ~60 seconds it takes to switch the battery ☟︎
asciilifeform: phf: i drained the battery in ~2h on airplane (putting finishing touches on rk gentoo), then again in the rack (1st usa->orc mains plug brick fell apart) then again on roof...
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: Likely how it made it to the feria. Feria is powered by dumpster finds and sticky fingers
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: on top of crappleism -- actually ~slower~ than x60, and smaller battery, and shit kbd
asciilifeform: phf: c101pa would last ~week if power management thing worked...
asciilifeform: phf: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/x60_piz_roof.jpg << subj. no mains socket on that roof.
phf: i've traveled with it before, but yeah, i'd turn it off, plug it in somewhere, turn it on. c101pa on the other hand has an insane battery life: i've been running it in pure console mode, and it will last a day or two
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I might have seen it at the feria recently on a table that also had a Macbook Air...
asciilifeform: ( mass budget allowed for 2 batteries, and i ended up tossing one right there in BingoBoingostan )
asciilifeform: i had to actually use it as a battery-powered box on pizarro voyage, and it sucked
phf: right, i basically treat the battery as a ups, i.e. hold it long enough for me to move it from place to place
asciilifeform: and the battery ( i've bought 4 types of replacement, incl. supposedly 'original', none lasted > 6 mo. )