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assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 10:41:17; punkman: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/31/incident_managers_pagerduty_pwned/

shinohai: wb mircea_popescu, when you have time I need a eulora pass

asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

trinque: http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2015/08/03/us/ap-us-texas-attorney-general-investigation-the-latest.html?_r=0 << perhaps he's a fraudster, perhaps not. yet the other angle here might be that the Texas AG tends to spend quite a bit of time suing the federal government.

asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

chetty: ascii_field> trinque: go, try. then report re: the difference.// no substanstial difference, truck driving or lawn mowing are both improvements

gernika: ascii_field I would probably need tribal piercings at a minimum to get a job at Whole Foods. Much like inmates in prison indicate their dedication to their trade with facial tattoos.

trinque: ascii_field: I don't expect for a moment that you could possibly fake "stupid" ☟︎

trinque: ascii_field: what is a php job but burger flipping?

ascii_field: and yes, i fully expect mircea_popescu to proclaim that mr. unemployableprogrammer is office plankton and ought to be boiled for soap

assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 17:01:57; ascii_field: kakobrekla: iirc nothing came of it

danielpbarron: diana_coman got paid to write a crafter bot for eulora

asciilifeform: !up ascii_field

assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 01:34:07; mircea_popescu: http://trilema.com/2015/the-1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-sunday-event/#selection-193.21-193.36 << got the sexpr ? hm ? HM ?

shinohai: Let's make bitcoin a Rube Goldberg machine: https://np.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3fm2ws/is_blizzard_ever_going_to_accept_bitcoin_as_a/ctq0624

BingoBoingo: !up mike_c

BingoBoingo: https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-g4Bx5AGPXXM/VZmA-DQL6kI/AAAAAAAALoE/tIuqHi-SWDk/s1600/IMG_3231.JPG

punkman: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/07/31/incident_managers_pagerduty_pwned/ ☟︎

punkman: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cod_6dsIsnE

BingoBoingo: Ghostbusters arrived a bit early it seems http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--fixzXNha--/c_fit,fl_progressive,q_80,w_636/1368261340029528421.jpg

pete_dushenski hopes mircea_popescu knew this was staged.

assbot: Logged on 02-08-2015 18:19:34; mircea_popescu: in other news, https://i.imgur.com/TCjVzuQ.jpg

assbot: Logged on 01-08-2015 00:37:07; mircea_popescu: suppose we're in the park. "throw the crumbs over there" "but the birds won't see them" "doesn't matter, we're the only things that matter here" "but we don't cluck"

assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 01:14:02; mircea_popescu: thin live layer at the top, exactly like the froth of 90s moscow.

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, trinque: http://www.skynet.ie/~caolan/Packages/callcatcher.html

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: no, someone will mitm the link

assbot: Logged on 03-08-2015 00:51:09; mircea_popescu: to make sure : your notion of "paying" includes "peers that relay txn that are worthy of going in our pool", correct ?

asciilifeform: on account of some earlier mircea_popescuism

mircea_popescu: dPriority /= ::GetSerializeSize(tx, SER_NETWORK); ☟︎

asciilifeform: classical apparatus has a data structure, 'mapPriority', http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/ident?_i=mapPriority

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: re: earlier and recurrent mempool thread: consider this: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp#2776

asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3fk3p9/a_single_political_entity_effectively_has_57 << philippino up the thread, naturally

punkman: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3fk3p9/a_single_political_entity_effectively_has_57/ctpcsko lol

assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 19:07:33; mircea_popescu: look. whatever whatever may be built as or not, i have two basic expectations. one is, for fucking machinery to behave the same way from night to next evening. the other, albeit weaker, is that if i get a "minimal work" thing i actually have to do minimal work.

asciilifeform: observe the 'CRITICAL_SECTION' turds in bitcoind

asciilifeform: '...But it is the same problem we find in C++. The question to be asked of massive complexity like that is not "what wonderful things did you find out that made this necessary", but "whatever did you _miss_ that made this so horribly complex"? You can sometimes see people who are really, really dumb go about some simple tasks in a way that tells you that they have arrived at their ways of performing it through an incredibly

asciilifeform: at the end of this long process of grasping something that looked intellectually challenging lie only a complexity that resulted from _rejecting_ simplicity of design at a few crucial points. Hell, it still took me years to figure out what alternatives they _should_ have picked up, and by then it was too late.'

asciilifeform: t was the first time I had really serious doubts about the wisdom of SGML's structuring process, because the massive complexity of it all is _completely_ pointless and a result of spreading the semantics so thin that you had to keep mental track of an enormous number of relationships to end up with an idea of what something should do or mean. It does not have to be that way. It was _profoundly_ disappointing to discover that

asciilifeform: d some of the designs and how it would be implemented, and he was quiet for the longest time before he said that I was probably the first person to have understood what he was _really_ trying to accomplish. That would have been _such_ a great thing if it had been, say, rocket science, but it was not. It was a man-made complexity so great that it had required _months_ of brain-wracking to really get my intuition working. Tha

asciilifeform: jurov: this kind of thing is at the root of a very old disagreement i have with mircea_popescu

asciilifeform: trinque, ben_vulpes, anyone else with 'clang' -- here's an idea, use the graph-walker solrodar used to determine the subset of openssl (see old thread re: same)

shinohai: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3fg0jw/could_a_cartel_of_pool_operators_collude_to/ctoh97g

decimation: http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2009/07/26/the_identity_crisis_of_the_modern_zoo/ < amusing: "“If you asked somebody in our profession 10 years ago, ‘Is the gorilla happy?’, they would get really upset and say, ‘Why would you ask such an anthropomorphic question?’ ” said Kagan, 57. “But these sort of things now are legitimately a part of scientific study and assessment.”"

decimation: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2b/IBM_System_36091.sj.jpg < ascii, entire machine state visible for inspection

BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> BingoBoingo "as was the case with this one." << link missing ? << That's a cazalla

asciilifeform: (see mircea_popescu's old 'dragonfly' article based on my conf-II chat)

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: usually in china they put it through a pig first. but yes.

decimation: no look it's in real media too http://www.boston.com/news/world/articles/2008/01/31/haitians_trick_empty_bellies_with_dirt_cookies/

decimation: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/02/19/dirt-poor-haitians-eat-mu_n_168339.html

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'there is no resisting ants and flies, giraffe fell, elephant fell'

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: see also the idiocy of 'skeumorphism'

decimation: mircea_popescu: sounds good to me. file transfer a .txt

hanbot: deedbot- http://thewhet.net/han/mpifpc4_072015.txt.asc

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 1) nothing realtime-reactive runs in java 2) the counter overflows after what was it, 8 months of continuous engine time ????

assbot: Logged on 02-08-2015 20:02:14; mircea_popescu: siemens is "german" in the sense tsipras is "greek" and so on. absolutely nothing to do.

asciilifeform: jurov: the thing is, nothing is built from the ground up (except for the circus mentioned earlier just now by mircea_popescu) with 'excel'. the infrastructure is running on fumes

assbot: Logged on 02-08-2015 19:59:28; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform> so it would have to be very clean to justify losing search << technically speaking, needing "search" is a symptom that you've not yet learned it.

kakobrekla: heh, re pdp, apparently http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/06/19/nuke_plants_to_keep_pdp11_until_2050/ ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: recall that pdp emulator fella ? ☟︎

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: industry exists

asciilifeform: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/12/15/openbsd_backdoor_claim << rumour

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: iirc linus checks sigs

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yeah i recall. was it anvin? iirc

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: would like to find what they have in common ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i wrote a short post last night, linking to an archive.today of the phuctored list, and exhorting the folks whose names appear therein to write

asciilifeform: except that i linked to mircea_popescu's pgp key in a post

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu ^

assbot: Logged on 02-08-2015 16:01:52; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell phf http://paste.lisp.org/display/152828#1 << do forgive my ignorance, but what am i missing about converting the "command" into a string? (Adlai, asciilifeform, your eyes'd be appreciated too)

asciilifeform: reminiscent of what mircea_popescu suggested, but with moar duct tape and chicken wire

punkman: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3fggjj/someone_has_broadcast_a_transaction_with_20000/

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: mircea_popescu did iirc, via gimp

asciilifeform: ben_vulpes, mod6, mircea_popescu, et al: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/net.cpp#0526 << interestingly, these appear to be dead code. what were they meant for ?

asciilifeform: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3fi92w/how_important_are_individual_full_nodes_and_how << check out the philippinos

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: fortunately there is wildlife that lives on usg-free net, whose turds one can follow to find the forest. i speak, of course, of crapware artists and sp4mz0rz

asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> obviously c will compile for anything. but not by itself! << my point was that i put a complete kit in there. that will build x86_64 on whatever you like, x86-32, cray, pdp11.

chetty: <mircea_popescu> it's purely a pr thing. got to get people used to the idea that they MUST say they despise the usg.// just the usg? lots of other places seem equally worthy of it

ben_vulpes: http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/portland-oregon

assbot: Logged on 02-08-2015 04:02:50; decimation: http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Aspen-Colorado/ "Average price per square foot for Aspen CO was $909, an increase of 23% compared to the same period last year."

assbot: Logged on 02-08-2015 01:47:14; asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you still getting ^this on your nodes ?

assbot: Logged on 02-08-2015 00:40:26; mircea_popescu: you could just rebuild for your platform.

gernika: ;;later tell mircea_popescu http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-08-2015#1221791 << Built it. It runs and syncs. ☝︎

BingoBoingo: !Up shovel_boss_

BingoBoingo: !up pete_dushenski

assbot: http://wiki.bitcoin-assets.com/irc_bots/assbot

decimation: BingoBoingo: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3fe92x/im_ashley_barr_aka_adam_turner_the_first_mtgox/ < might be good for some lulz

decimation: http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/11968-Southampton/ "Average price per square foot for homes in 11968 was $1,010, an increase of 81.7% compared to the same period last year. "

decimation: http://www.trulia.com/real_estate/Aspen-Colorado/ "Average price per square foot for Aspen CO was $909, an increase of 23% compared to the same period last year." ☟︎

BingoBoingo: ben_vulpes: pgp.mit.edu was a gold mine for academic keys they may not have made the transition to sks. I retrieved manually though by schoool.

ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> grats, i guess ? o.O << hyuuuuahahaha

assbot: Logged on 01-08-2015 23:40:28; mircea_popescu: 163 would imply a 512 bit key except iirc no key under 768 was even allowed ?

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: you still getting ^this on your nodes ? ☟︎

assbot: Logged on 02-08-2015 00:13:47; mircea_popescu: you end up with a pile of html files that would conceivably be smaller than the blockchain (no sigs)

assbot: Logged on 02-08-2015 00:40:51; mircea_popescu: i dunno that any of the currently standing nodes are on 32 bit platforms

assbot: Logged on 02-08-2015 00:40:37; mircea_popescu: very few people still use 32bit, might be interesting test case.

assbot: Logged on 02-08-2015 00:18:25; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=01-08-2015#1221499 << what "her" fucking choice ? since when it's her choice, have we EVER even seen a documented case of a female attacker ?

assbot: Logged on 02-08-2015 00:39:22; mircea_popescu: gernika it's a wonder they built, you had multilib installed for some reason ?

assbot: Logged on 02-08-2015 00:34:46; mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you see any problem with me thinking https://www.fourmilab.ch/documents/digital-imprimatur/ is basically retarded ?

gernika: mircea_popescu Yeah I did.

assbot: Logged on 01-08-2015 23:40:28; mircea_popescu: 163 would imply a 512 bit key except iirc no key under 768 was even allowed ?