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mircea_popescu: in point of fact there was NO item more advanced in 1700 england trhan there was available in 200bc athens.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform could have refined it once started, much like the english did.
mircea_popescu: for same applications as historically -- mining first, then crop/textile processing, then boat power.
mircea_popescu: you don't need symmetrical parts to make steam engine.
mircea_popescu: they DID make some bronzeamphorae. but had no idea what to do with it.
mircea_popescu: consider, they made bronze statues. and had very advanced pottery.
mircea_popescu: but the greeks had the metallurgy to introduce the early steam engine, just like the english did.
mircea_popescu: maybe, though really, it was cost effective in 200bc. they were just dumb.
mircea_popescu: the problem with these "breakthroughs" and "genius inventions" in the industrial setting is that they're generally ancient lore finally dug from under the mound of economical impracticability.
mircea_popescu: not new, either. only became cost effective recently, but otherwise this is 1960s tech
mircea_popescu: anyway. the idea of forced ion exchange so the surface gets potassium-doped and thus micro-tensed and somewhat stronger is not bad.
mircea_popescu: !~later tell spyked corning gorilla glass is just alumino-silicate glass made by corning. there's a bunch others. think of it as cheap bohemian glass, that thing we had the 10kg fruit bowls etc, "cristal". that's leaded, this is aluminized.
mircea_popescu: there is ~no possibility~ of such a tging as reputation among africans, shamanists, idiots, "what good are square roots" and other sub-human non-people.
mircea_popescu: ussion" underneath any scam whatsoever will readilty vindicate this point.
mircea_popescu: !~later tell spyked
http://thetarpit.org/posts/y03/062-greenspan-assault-on-integrity.html << the problem with this view is that the pantsuits correctly intuit that all the imbeciles they enfranchised are sitll imbeciles. consequently it would be no harm to a business' reputation to sell them iguanas on a stick and call it prime beef. they will never know ; and casual perusal of tardstalk "investor" as well as "community disc
☟︎ mircea_popescu: well in truth it was kind of a single name for many random items
mircea_popescu: generation of kids who all loved legos and their world is more fragmented in stupider ways than the 1600s mercantilist world. wtf.
mircea_popescu: if i decide to reconfigure my car into an electric generator or a super strenght fridge or lawn mower or helicopter, I SHOULD BE FUCKING ABLE TO.
mircea_popescu: the correct move is towards a |ing of hardware, and of software, and everything else.
mircea_popescu: anyway. the point being that competition should happen on narrower elements.
mircea_popescu: they're the ~copies~ of minoan vases produced in syria, not the actual minoan vases.
mircea_popescu: this is artisanship, after a fashion, but not to be confused with the genuine article imo.
mircea_popescu: spyked see, the thing with orc lands is that they have this. borz, chechen made smg. the egyptians made engine parts to VISUAL spec, by hand. i saw this. guy here offered to produce a replacement pressure hose for me, by visual inspection.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman aha. most of anything left standing were parts of that. "greaua mostenire a epocii ceausescu"
mircea_popescu: spyked was it a cartpenter you hired, ie, a guy who worked in wood, or was it an ikea clonal system you hired, ie a guy who went to a central warehouse where they cut some glue-dust planks to his spec ?
mircea_popescu: btw, incredible enough how the borz is not in the logs! pot metal smg yo!
mircea_popescu: ie, was custom made out of ikea materials by a local craftsman with shittier tools ?
mircea_popescu: and i bet you have ikea shit within eyesight right now.
mircea_popescu: i assemble my computer out of parts to no great sufferance, and get for my trouble a much better computer than any of the pre-made buying dorks.
mircea_popescu: spyked consider that most consumer products come kitted anyway, and when you buy a car your question is "well is the engine from mexico or brazil or germany ? is this the original transmission ?" etc.
mircea_popescu: software is the worst offender here, but hardware is also pretty bad. consider -- i don't want to buy "A fridge", i should buy standardized compressor units, and so on. why do i want "the fridge" ? there's no need to debate "whirlpool" vs "obamacare". compare discrete items.
mircea_popescu: ted, ie, natural size + natural boundaries, you are left with a pile of usable tools which naturally construct a solution for any ~possible~ problem.
mircea_popescu: eh, the paradigm gotta shift from this pasty ass "ima try and make a lot of moneyz so maybe im left with something after wife dolchstoss)
mircea_popescu: whereas romanian "right" at least in the sense of, parliamentarily, is very much washington democrats, all into eu bureaucracy and occasionally inadequate liberal economic policies.
mircea_popescu: they're historically pro-russia and pro-independence, grudgingly pro-eu cuz "da people". but otherwise populist and strong in the equiv of us red areas.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ro social-democrats are rather a sort of "central republicans".
mircea_popescu: was possibly romania's first online item, a joint blog/ezine thing
mircea_popescu: sort of like a self-licking ice cone, except these'd be the lickers.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform ro idiomatic, to do nothing on govt pay.
mircea_popescu: spyked anyway, if in your estimation guy's not an idiot invite him over next you see him, i want to personally cuss him out for that terrible "advanced" crypto thing wtf is it.
mircea_popescu: perhaps it was god-given ? came out of the pantsuited hilarity's hairy snatch ? who knows.
mircea_popescu: it's not clear they undersrand that the world was created by men.
mircea_popescu: this is nice, especially when found magic weapon in the field. but also very useless.
mircea_popescu: the problem with getting "engineers" to construct proofs in this vein is that engineers have too much monkey in them. "doctor, doctor, if i shove it in this way it works!"
mircea_popescu: it ends up as being an example as to why it is hard to think about systems if one's very inclined to unhygienically import random unknowns into the workbench.
mircea_popescu: "We may informally state that "reversing a given list yields the list which has the same elements but in the exact opposite order (e.g. right-to-left, as opposed to left-to-right)", but we have no way of accurately specifying this in our language other than by defining rev and postulating that "rev reverses any given list". The same goes for appending lists."
mircea_popescu: spyked no, see, you already reference "arbitrary order" without having even discussed the matter. why is a list ordered ? how is it ordered ? can penis pushe ice cubes not be a set ?
mircea_popescu: and this 1 2 3 4 bs implying metered and measured and ordered and whatnot. aaanyway, /me reads on.
mircea_popescu: but in my experience, generally people take refuge in minutia when scared of biting the problem. wtf difference does it make how i construct an enumerated set, maybe i push icecubes off the table into the paper bin with my penis.
mircea_popescu: it's a set, and enumerated because computers lack the ability to construct ~described~ sets, such as "the set of prime numbers" or w/e.
mircea_popescu: what's wrong with "a list is an enumerated set" ? which is what a list is.
mircea_popescu: you're equivocating between definition and constructor! wtf is "a list is... : is the list making operator so a list is 1:2:[]" nonsense!
mircea_popescu: are you aware i think your "formal" model is a piece of shit from paragraph one ?
☟︎ mircea_popescu: spyked the thing you used to search btw, runs in lisp.
mircea_popescu: turns out the whole hello & welcome works out a lot better when i don't have to ask "so who are you". who could have predictated.