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nubbins`: so i'm wondering if there's a reasonable method by which i could use my s.mg stock warrant as the basis for selling options
dub: hot as fuck here
Duffer1: it's The Panama Fund that acquired Havelock, it's some of the same guys as CFIG
KRS-: Gribble indicted over ponzi allegations of Bitcoin. Global police task force investigating Cyber Currency. Warrants issued for Fontas, Woolong and Bobby Lee. Mt. Gox president Mark Karpeles detained in China for fleeing authorities in Japan. Fontas quoted as saying "YOU CAN'T STOP TEH PUMP". News at 11. PANIC!
TATonawalk: added thoughts on bitcoin fiverr - integrate with wot to manage reputation. package that integration method as an identity service for other cryptobizzes. handholding the masses into compliance and get paid for it.
mircea_popescu: other than the penny ante noobs not rly anybody still using them as best one can determine
herbijudlestoids: i think im ok with most of those things, and i feel like as long as there is no ads on the site then its probably costing google more than they are making off me in analytics
benkay: can't say as i know what you're going on about.
mircea_popescu: preferably as a python module ?
mircea_popescu: prolly better that way as you'll have inelastic loads lal the time
ThickAsThieves: question, if i take the source from a different coingen package, is that not the same thing as what i need
mircea_popescu: more adequate to whoring out anyway. i guess as an older guy he can't enjoy that where he is, so what's one to do.
benkay: not a terribly bad strategy so long as he allocates correctly on his +ev options
benkay: well sv bank can hardly be thought of as a high finance operation
mircea_popescu: that they will be crushed by much larger things that exist independent of their knowledge or understanding is about as aliento them as mpex customers to jimmothey
mircea_popescu: the va circus, as hopelessly fucked as they are, imagine that "all entrepreneurship" is... well... them.
mircea_popescu: ant will kill rhino, skin it, wear the skin as king of the jungle.
mircea_popescu: they are attacking bitcoin. perhaps in the manner an ant attacks a rhino, but nevertheless. as far as the ant is concerned, in its own system of representations, that's what's going on. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: as if that makes it ok "no but honey til!"
mircea_popescu: ```` as long as he doesn't distribute it...
nubbins`: makes about as much sense as learning spanish just to read cien años de soledad, i guess
mircea_popescu: anyway, take the nsa satoshi hypothesis. so the nsa spent 5mn making this thing, which we all embraced. as part of that expenditure it has premined 10mn BTC, which it kept, secretly. we don't know. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and can't have sex as value without trying to hump vaguely calf-shaped electricity poles.
ThickAsThieves: can't have trust as value without thinking everyone is out to get you!
asciilifeform: that's sorta like saying that falling out of an airplane sans parachute isn't really so bad, i fell out of my bed as a boy once
nubbins`: it behooves one wealthy in btc to delay purchases/spending for as long as possible
mircea_popescu: it's just that "distributed" does not mean one to many, as the nationalist representation of bork would have it.
nubbins`: consider that an ounce of weed should cost the same as a dozen hothouse tomatoes
nubbins`: twizt, weed costs about the same to grow as tomatoes
mircea_popescu: ideally it's your slave, as you have the ssh
ThickAsThieves: i want to be be able to form a sentence like "If we print the same amount of money in 2014 as 2013, your $1 with be worth .82"
mircea_popescu: with ppl as they are, even picking a fucking place to eat takes tw odays.
mircea_popescu: that's why family is best organised as slaves in a harem
ThickAsThieves: a ha "There was approximately $1.23 trillion in circulation as of January 29, 2014, of which $1.18 trillion was in Federal Reserve notes."
water4ll: I just use as excuse to smoke in train toilet
nubbins`: when i lived in korea, my bank required that i ran an activex control, had a cookie stored on a usb thumb drive, and asked for two separate five-digit codes from a list of about 50 that were provided as a wallet-sized card
KRS-: ya its hard to find work as sysadmin where I live, but the work lasts a very long time.
mircea_popescu: KRS- inasmuch as they all run your code they all know about the cookie.
mircea_popescu: (guy walks into a girlscout cookie clambake. as the festivities progress he keeps getting more and more excited
nubbins`: great for industrial buildings as well as the home!
nubbins`: also known as "having a scuff"
nubbins`: peace be upon you as well, etc
mircea_popescu: if your salt+nonce -> cookie process is deterministic you can even verify it's the same actual user to any arbitrary degree of fineness (such as, same ip) ☟︎
mircea_popescu: wouldn't the best practice be, that upon user registration you generate a user salt and a nonce, send these as a hashed cookie,
mircea_popescu: inasmuch as you're going to do a site with accounts, which people can log in over http (stupid as this may be)
mircea_popescu: no, as in take the gf. you eat the big hoovespaste thing, she eats the small one
herbijudlestoids: what is the amore about? as in, i love mcdonalds so much, give me one of everything on the menu?
mircea_popescu: "remember that it’s the individualists who seem to work together best towards the collective — the BIG collective — society as a whole — a nation, for instance. meanwhile, the “collectivists” (as hofstede calls them) — or the clannish groups (as i call them) — don’t manage to handle, or even to create, commonweals hardly at all."
mircea_popescu: not deliberately, just, they're too fucking dumb and uninformed to survive in the world as it is.
mircea_popescu: "nothing i do now should be construed as rape" *pow* *smack* *riiiip*
mircea_popescu: you know how they pass laws going "nothing in the foregoing should be construed as doing X" ?
mircea_popescu: sadly there is no such thing as a "verifiable true financial"
mircea_popescu: if you need fineness as an input your system is thereby aborted.
herbijudlestoids: mircea_popescu: marginal savers can do the legwork and rest of the market can take the interest rate as the signal
decimation: I'm not sure the crisis would be of the same magnitude as what fiat banks have gotten into
decimation: MP, as in you won't be able to find anyone who is qualified to make these kinds of subjective creditworthiness judgements?
mircea_popescu: when he could just as well set up shop for himself.
decimation: the bank would provide research and screening of businesses wanting loans, as well as negotiating terms for classes of investors
herbijudlestoids: realistically, there should be no bitcoin bank, doesnt seem necessary as long as there is a highly liquid market for bitcoin duration notes and bonds, like 10,30,90 day 2,5,7,y bonds
Duffer1: he's jsut using it as an example to highlight a point, smart guy knows his audience
herbijudlestoids: due diligence shows the banks as failed capitalist enterprises
mircea_popescu: fucktards with their "let's make the world fair" as if it weren't managed to bomb us all the fucking way to the stone age.
mircea_popescu: the us may hire as many Fargo policewomen as it can pay.
mircea_popescu: so then what do you think, the problem eases as you go up ?
herbijudlestoids: when i say NSA i dont mean NSA so much as any sigint that has permissions for global ops
mircea_popescu: 1. nsa is nowhere near as competent as they'd like you believe
herbijudlestoids: youll be going up against a very scary adversary who will hand your details over to the FBI or local equivalent as soon as they de-anon your server
herbijudlestoids: iv got "So this urbit thing" and "People have made blogs" saved in my list, as well as "The stuff all good conspiracy theories start with" because i wanna see the photo of MPOE-PR :P
herbijudlestoids: approx the same idea as urbit or tornet, rehyped and the tech media are cum guzzling it hard ☟︎
mircea_popescu: imo "crowdfunding" as in, kickfunder etc is a fad not unlike social media.
mircea_popescu: also bear in mind it's a scam as per https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=350103
benkay: OOP as security
mircea_popescu: that cryptsy thing looks exactly as retarded as if burnside had come back from the dead.
pankkake: as for number of boobies, wise words from http://bash.bitcoin-assets.com/?quote=35
kleeck: Good evening to you as well, mircea_popescu. :D
pankkake: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=47417.msg4883114#msg4883114 "Can we PLEASE stop supporting cgminer as the mining solution"
ThickAsThieves: if you overlap the 5 and the 2 then use the 1 as the connector
nubbins`: as an aside, i find "scammor" to be a pleasant, if unintentional, spelling
Namworld: Would have sounded about the same as in english that way.
ThickAsThieves: [17:41] <lewicki> by your definition that makes Altcoin just as purposeless though, right?
asciilifeform: while mercedes as 'a real program'
asciilifeform: the uninitiated tend to group mpex as 'something somebody wrote'
mircea_popescu: actually, if there's any merit in the theory of history repeating itself, we could guess that the largest bubble for the next ~3 centuries will be the result of a RoB corporation being granted the priviledge to trade one ships' worth of drugs in the us as a result of a defeatr of the us in battle.
ThickAsThieves: paying attention as a new CEO, not easy
mircea_popescu: well point out to the guy it might not be the worst of ideas to store that at creation just as a convenience.
mircea_popescu: derp you know, as if that ever was different
mircea_popescu: The prison had a debriefing room, where Mohammed, who saw himself as something of a professor, held "office hours," as he told CIA officers. While chained to the floor, Mohammed would lecture the CIA officers on his path to jihad, his childhood and family. Tea and cookies were served.
decimation: anyway, if Bitcoinstein rises to rule the world one day, it is likely that the history recorded here will be used as the basis for law
mircea_popescu: and perhaps had that not been called then, it'd be just as difficult to call today as it was then, and then you'd know about it,
mircea_popescu: "Unbelievable as it may sound, the US economy today is a shadow of what it was in the '70s."
ThickAsThieves: How about this bet : Altcoin is the best altcoin. This bet resolves as Yes if the answer is No.
mircea_popescu: pankkake make a bitbet bet as to how many 4s you get ?
mircea_popescu: and tbh i kinda feel for him. sadly tho, they also can't be helped, because... as tat points out, "The problem here is that you have no mechanism with which to do so, and that because language is not employed for the purpose you imagine it employed."
mircea_popescu: well in their defense, they just rooted for the correct principle their whole life, fighting valliantly for their sanity as an oppressed minority.
decimation: Whereas that's bitcoin's greatest strength, as you point out.
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, it's still just as much dicking about with shit we know.
ThickAsThieves: he of course paints this as vital to their nation
decimation: Indeed. Gold in the ground as ore is just as good as gold in the ground as a bar.
mircea_popescu: in short : a land deed on a gold field is as good as gold itself. you have a negative incentive to actually mine it.
mircea_popescu: it's,,, just as gold, and just as burried, where it stands.