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mircea_popescu: the place is quite ripe for it, on one hand lots and lots and lots of useless and idle youth, on the other hand large paper fortunes desperate for some protection. can very well get paid to "protect the household" while selling tickets to rape the wife, it's 100% a opera buffa sorta sittuation.
mircea_popescu: item crumpled over absent grassroots. not that it's hard to remedy : get a church registered, organize donation campaigns, get some real estate and run events off it, there you go.
mircea_popescu: (same exact blueprint that's working quite so splendidly to embarass french pantsuit these days, exactly)
mircea_popescu: the context was, some farmers were disputing usg's territorial claim, and it'd have been a decent opportunity for some keks. free beer, collegiate sluts, get a party going, let the landsknecht deal wirth it
mircea_popescu: (i kinda suspect BingoBoingo would do a lot better with a partner on the grounds, tbh)
mircea_popescu: basically the discriminant there was "decided to staay or leave ? if stay, x, if leave, dunno, maybe go to paraguay see if can help bingo get that hardware shop off the ground or something"
mircea_popescu: well, mid term is mid term, what, three, five, ten years. none of the items described there are longer commitments anyway, you can totally get a church going in the mid term -- if it goes anywhere i'm sure there'll be who wants to take over if / when you feel like leaving.
mircea_popescu: so basically what you're saying is that you're only firmly decided to stay in us for the ~mid term~ as opposed to "more than that" ?
mircea_popescu: well, im not sure i follow what;s going on, but didn't you execute a 1. i must pay dubaloos so and so a month to landlord therefore -> 2. i must take job in empire and thus logically -> 3. gotta live there ?
mircea_popescu: ie, there's a lot both tech and non tech holes to fill.
mircea_popescu: other than that, a) if you'd rather mostly deal with c legacy codebase you could also work with diana_coman on an eulora client ; b) if you'd rather do evanghelism work the original job in the
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-03-19#1903518 line is still open -- you could work to advertise your castle in heathenworld (leverages pizarro directly ; and if you're serious about not leaving the ushithole you can incorporate it regula
☝︎ mircea_popescu: but otherwise, what sounds good ? you wanna do the ada db wrapper for instance ?
mircea_popescu: item should be ~the most accessible if i had to guess.
mircea_popescu: Mocky, pressing something's a good idea, for sure, even if it's just some patches on mp-wp chain say.
mircea_popescu: might tbe a better route, esp if it delivers a cheap way to a tcp-based republican web, to replace the www.
mircea_popescu: no argument there ; also so far, let's just first get a wrapper.
mircea_popescu: but in point of fact we gotta weld ada to db already, what.
mircea_popescu: in another order : an ada prototype for db interaction, at the very least with mysql and postgres, would probably get imported into a lot of projects. anyone has one unpublished ? anyone wanna write ?
mircea_popescu: yet -- if it works as a bootstrapper it works as a bootstrapper ; and if it does not we understand why and wherefore.
mircea_popescu: "oh but mp, this is undemocratic -- some programming styles or high level assumptions will result in ~unusable tapes, 1mnx bloated". "precisely." "but this means not all programmers aree equal anymore". "duh"
mircea_popescu: in any case, a very tentative possible repoublican alternate machine can be already intuited : if p backend is welded to gcc;s frontends, one can code in ada (or c#, why not), compiler for p-machine and live happily ever after.
mircea_popescu: if peh can be its own bootstrapper quite so transparently nobody notices, then maybe it is actually a good general purpose bootstrapping tool. maybe.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform, yes! in the other perspective : BECAUSE IT IS ITS OWN BOOTSTRAPPER!!!
mircea_popescu: but consider the converse problem : if it comes to it, am i going to order the re-implementation de novo of gcc's backend by republican hands ? why MUST it be c ?
mircea_popescu: (note also, but importantly, that one doesn't have to write peh by hand anymore than he has to write asm by hand. there's perfectly conceivable one has an optimizing pehpiler.)
mircea_popescu: but we are very specifically not discussing what to do to read trilema. we're discussing what to do at a relatively early stage of bootstrap!
mircea_popescu: because no, this is a cop-out, "oh, it's arbitrary". like the poorly trained cook, "arbitrary use of tools"
mircea_popescu: yes, it is, translates bizarre pantsuit notions of "randomness" ; nevertheless the point stands if renamed : arbitrary, and who's the arbiter ? Nike the goddess ?
mircea_popescu: obviously (i would hope) i'm not proposing any naive solution will necessarily work well ; i'm just saying that it's not obvious to me a smart solution isn't available somewhere. in point of fact not merely p, but ~the whole class of things for which it stands as a most illustrative example~ is, if arguably not new, in any case the continuation of work in fields and along lines neglected for at least three if not more than
mircea_popescu: but in any case no such thing as "random" exists in the fucking machine --- if it did, you wouldn't need to buy fg's for it, now would you.
mircea_popescu: the dood's historical blackjack playing program is a better model of "bootstrapper" than what you find in average "systems design" in orclang books.
mircea_popescu will import by reference the story of mel. what "random access", it's onlty random if you don't know what you're doing and at bootstrap phase the item's too close to starting position to have complexity-exploded out of your hands already as a matter of necessity.
mircea_popescu: i'm not disposing of the matter. i'm just keeping it open, and specifically because these sorts of things are by now reflex in the malfunctioning brains of "it experts". oh, small ram footprint of bootstrapper. oh, random access.\
mircea_popescu: it's not directly obvious to me that "random access" in this particular context is not disease sympthom.
mircea_popescu: ie, being economical re bootstrap ram is one of the dumbest things i can think of. beats "penny wise and pound foolish" by 2+ degrees of magnitude in folly.
mircea_popescu: there's no hard and fast requirement that the bootstrapper needs to use less than the full system memory, which is mb in any case.
mircea_popescu: i didn't mean the code, i meant the ram it needs to function.
mircea_popescu: that's in fact one of the few parts where the historical constraint bears no relevancy today.
mircea_popescu: and it ~might~ even be a candidate bootstrap language.
mircea_popescu: but look how it mirrors what we want from a putative tmsr.php or tmsr.xml or tmsr.tcl or w.e!
mircea_popescu: bvt, so put the matter to him plainly, "look, the republic is considering this, either come over and make your case or what d oyou want to do" ?
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: i suspect though the earlier discussion of "what do we want for a scripting language" is deeply if unobviously related to "what is bootstrap done by"
mircea_popescu: moreover, i dunno of any well working bootstrappers for whatever embedded / mircro / whatever you take application that actually bootstraps on c
mircea_popescu: bvt, did you identify any live ones among the authors/participants ?
mircea_popescu: (they're prolly trying to get into costa rica illegally, as nobody here can distinguiush nicas and mexicans. but anyway)
mircea_popescu: apparently idiots don't get names, they get collapsed into the tree of their stupidities.
mircea_popescu: i dunno why don't they just put the "fuel economy magnets" people in congress directly. properly speaking, there's no other substance to "america".
mircea_popescu: poor but stupid yankee kids, hearing of something in that vein, imagined the ~same can be obtained not only very cheaply, but importantly using only items accessible -- the only enduring ideology of that place. and so... the yankee is moronic enough to act as if a feather suffices to be 2nd line english elite.)
mircea_popescu: (likbez : as grand tours became popularized, in the interim before cook's mass commercialization thereof, a lot of 2nd hand british elite kids were exposed to italian fashion and atmosphere ; gained an appreciation of aforeunknown pasta, ie maccaroni, and started a whole epicene fashion including ridiculous dress and assorted faggotry.
mircea_popescu: in the words of their national anthem, "he puts a feather in his cap and calls it macaroni"
mircea_popescu: the latter's a little more fopish and sophisticated, but then again the former's born in whichever unknown swamp amidst our colonies.
mircea_popescu: so i dunno that there's a substantial difference, ideologically, between kennan and churchill.
mircea_popescu: i don;t have a very clear view of patton ; but churchill is exactly as much a socialist as the whole temperance movement. he was unequivocally identified as such by ~all contemporaries, what, just because dumb soviet kid never heard of churchill other than for one newspaper notice dated 1945 this means something ? by the time hitler came to power churchill had been an openly socialist politician for a decade+
mircea_popescu: he was factually very influential "russian blue expert for to explain to american red how does the blue relate to me"