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asciilifeform: 'Hello asciilifeform I see on coin.dance/nodes , The Real Bitcoin is listed with the 'Emergent Consensus' feature tag. Could you tell me if that's accurate - will you follow a HF to > 1MB , and could you tell me anything about how it's implemented in TRB ? Thx!' ☟︎

mp_en_viaje: an' with that boys an' girls i'll be off. i'll be back on main mondayish. take it easy!

asciilifeform: because i hit against it while laboriously replicating the original logic in nqb,

asciilifeform: i'ma have to write it out.

asciilifeform: i.e. the orphaned blocks a particular node ~has seen~.

mp_en_viaje: "i want to add two numbers" "how large iwll they be ?" "i odn't know" "please go back to the end of the line, computing 101 door."

mp_en_viaje: i think only by unspoken reference among graybeards.

asciilifeform: i can't seem to find it

asciilifeform: i actually spent a good chunk of past 2 days making sense of the reorg logic

mp_en_viaje: yeah. i was always very suspicious of all reorgs. ie, if shit should hit hte fan, you'd expect it there.

asciilifeform: mp_en_viaje: i guessed this, from your statement.

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-26#1632589 << i woke up to birds singing alfie. be jealous. ☝︎

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-26#1632587 << yep. i can almost see his retarded face while he shits somewhere on the pavements of astoria. "see, this is great." happy subhumans all around, and his pained sad "smile" hovering over them. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-03-26 04:14 BingoBoingo: I doubt it, NYC is rapidly turning into poor part of Mubai

mp_en_viaje: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-26#1632576 << yeh, from all i hear nyc is a really sad hole these days. ☝︎

a111: Logged on 2017-03-24 21:28 trinque: I expect that the Snore signature is easily collided by some means; obviously I'm not sitting here with the exploit in hand.

a111: Logged on 2015-12-27 17:38 asciilifeform: 'It is about sending a strong message. I think we may need to start an accreditation scheme for Bitcoin-consensus compliant wallets and services. Through code signing and use of multisig, we can even distinguish transactions made by compliant wallets and non-compliant wallets, and have pools not mine them (or wallets refuse to send to known-non-compliant wallets).'

shinohai: The heathen apps I'm forced to use in such situations hanbot, you have no idea.

hanbot: oh hey shinohai's got the spanisher txtspeek. i'll hafta study

mp_en_viaje: hanbot, i could build you a list, but not right now. about 2/3 of the "who list o fessential medicines" say, or alternatively the inventory list of provincial hospital in 3rd world.

pete_dushenski: https://scontent.cdninstagram.com/t51.2885-15/s640x640/sh0.08/e35/17077598_816066928547618_8162672392150188032_n.jpg << very similar to tudor of my youth. i don't recall the numbers or hashes being illuminated at night now that i think about it. maaaaybe the hands though.

pete_dushenski: i had a skinny neck as a kid, what.

pete_dushenski: oldest (and higest end) wristwatch i ever wore was 1940s tudor. wore for maybe 2-3 years. no facial tumours detected in that period, thankfully.

asciilifeform: oh it'd seem that i neglected to say why i had the geiger around -- was hunting for a reason why a certain box of mine was ringing ecc alarms

pete_dushenski: more father but i have a couple. what's up ?

pete_dushenski: BingoBoingo: rapidly eh ? how so ? last i checked 'supertall skinnies' were notwhere to be found in the brown box

asciilifeform: was annoying, i knew it was taking me to a jail, tried various tricks to get out , or alternatively to crash it, but no dice

asciilifeform: reminds me, i dreamed that i was in a robotic car

BingoBoingo: I doubt it, NYC is rapidly turning into poor part of Mubai ☟︎

asciilifeform: also i can't resist to ask.. pete_dushenski reads that rubbish habitually? wai?

ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: aye, apparently. meanwhile resuscitated, i'll look into what happened later

asciilifeform: folks coming from heathendom, who 'oh i'll lurk', despite being shown the logs, remind me of fresh-off-the-boat emigres from east asia who will come to somebody's house and then insist on trying to balance with their legs on the toilet, 'just like back home'

trinque: TomServo: ah yep I see what's wrong, fixing it

trinque: TomServo: I didn't delete any data, but I'm happy to look into it.

TomServo: ben_vulpes: I had ratings previously.

TomServo: If I recall, there was a case sensitivity issue during the schism

TomServo: Before my voice goes, trinque how do I get unwiped from the wot?

asciilifeform: also i betcha you can replicate this effect by moving clock back.

TomServo: I'm starting with a -logtimestamps switch.

TomServo: Not quite a 1G, I have to restart it a lot. I'll find somewhere for it.

asciilifeform: TomServo: odd, i don't see anything re timestamps in there

asciilifeform: not so long ago i ate mircea_popescu's , what, 200G one.

asciilifeform: i dun care if it's 100G, i'll load it, promise.

ben_vulpes: yeah i see it now. the ~~ ~~ confused me.

ben_vulpes: i see

TomServo: Don't waste any more time on it. I'll verify some things.

asciilifeform: now, ~why~ TomServo's clock ran backwards, i do not know.

asciilifeform: i think something is wrong with your clock, TomServo

TomServo: I just tail for height, I'm going through the whole debug now.

a111: Logged on 2017-03-24 21:40 TomServo: I was just curious if anyone else saw this in there trb, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WRtLs/?raw=true

asciilifeform: see also http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/ident?v=makefiles&_i=InvalidChainFound for possible logic paths .

TomServo: asciilifeform: I'll check.

TomServo: Mine ran like that until presently, when I restarted it. Waiting to see what happens.

TomServo: I was just curious if anyone else saw this in there trb, http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/WRtLs/?raw=true ☟︎

trinque: if replaced, I dunno how anyone would -verifyall

trinque: maybe I misread.

trinque: I expect that the Snore signature is easily collided by some means; obviously I'm not sitting here with the exploit in hand. ☟︎

trinque: and I take the above to mean they'd be able to craft multi-sig transactions that are signature equivalent to a single-sig I create.

ben_vulpes: i have no idea, man

ben_vulpes: five minutes later i realized it was a commentary on /race/ and not /sex/

ben_vulpes: i saw this poster with some female athlete's face and burst out laughing the other day

ben_vulpes: may quite well be the case that babe who lives to obey and satisfy her man is far happier than careerist, independent, "i'll buy whatever dumb vehicle my emotions push me to!", but have fun making that sale to the americans attached to equality-at-any-cost

mircea_popescu: honestly i'd be muych surprised if the average bloke in the us wouldn't actually prefer living as 1997 average afghanistani instead.

mircea_popescu: and last i checked you had to be in their party presidium whatever to qualify for deed issuance in colonies.

Framedragger: (universal) basic income i assume

Framedragger: (i think it's just because there's a customs fee to be paid but will see - lulzy)

Framedragger: asciilifeform: parcel arrived at delivery office but (lol i was right) got held up by customs :D

phf: on recommendation of qntra i bought a copy of "The Camp of The Saints". i'm hoping it'll teach me about the great again

gabriel_laddel_p: and to be clear - the only reason I had that LSD is because someone I've never met gave it to me. for free.

BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel_p> BingoBoingo: "I should study more" isn't a winning idea. GTFO. << Please study more drugs. Gain experience. Maybe things work out for you and can do the right about face learning to drug like a gentleman.

gabriel_laddel_p: ben_vulpes: exactly. You said "shame she can't pose", I started to hunt for _that exact photo_ and then you dropped it into the logs

gabriel_laddel_p: trinque: I'm only here because ascii mentioned me earlier.

gabriel_laddel_p: ben_vulpes: I your taste.

gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: I never wanted to be a great inventor. Still don't.

trinque: yeah I worked for the alcoholic waiting for meaning in his life long enough

trinque: gabriel_laddel_p: you do realize that there are several folks here that have made money doing exactly the kind of consulting I described?

trinque: "fuck you mom I'm an artist"

trinque: I couldn't give a shit less

trinque: he's just here to argue with himself to charge up the courage to I dunno, do a bump of meth, or not do a bump of meth, or w/e

asciilifeform: i could tell gabriel_laddel_p that when i was a small boy, i also wanted somebody to go straight to 'great inventing' without all thar book larnin'

trinque: gabriel_laddel_p: your "I will sell computers" is never going to happen.

phf: my solutions to problems like that don't usually involve "bring in a 40mb package". i'd write a top level handler, that shows a modal x11 based repl/restart machinery. sort of poor man's genera ☟︎

mircea_popescu: i like how he keeps picking random people to be aggressive with.

gabriel_laddel_p: BingoBoingo: "I should study more" isn't a winning idea. GTFO. ☟︎

BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: From what I understand "Acid Trip Jackpot Ideas" are like Elliot's powerball tickets...

phf: well, i wouldn't go as far as playing nicely either. you have a clim editor, that you can theoretically extend in all kinds of interesting ways, yet you're still using it in combination with the emacs, etc.

gabriel_laddel_p: phf: even if I gave you a list of all the packages, it would take ~6months to get everything playing nicely.

asciilifeform: i had nfi what brousentsov's thing existed in engl.

phf: but there was none of that, because there wasn't actually anything being done. i think it would be a lot more impressive if you setup a non trivial task and showed how masamune makes that task easier to perform ☟︎

asciilifeform: fwiw i walked away with same impression as phf

BingoBoingo: <gabriel_laddel_p> asciilifeform: if only I had amphetamines I'd have a place to sleep... << You know... There's GIRLS at NA meetings

a111: Logged on 2017-03-24 02:54 gabriel_laddel_p: tbh I would have thought phf would have seen the masamune video & flown out here to get his free install the next day, but apparently the rest of you are less excited about this than I am

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-24#1632161 << i just didn't think the video was good. i also can install all the individual packages that are involved, but i wanted to see if and how the symbiosis makes you more productive ☝︎☟︎

gabriel_laddel_p: the general lesson of that trip: "I'm not learning anything by hacking CL anymore, time to do something new"

asciilifeform: i'd ask 'what didja learn from it' but it is probably a mistake.

gabriel_laddel_p: asciilifeform: people openly sell LSD all the time out here. I was given a vial of liquid for free a few months ago

phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-03-24#1632128 << i think stability issues are mostly digitalocean related at the moment. because i couldn't connect to log, and once i did bot autorecovered ☝︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i'd still piuss all opver it. by that point, what do you have to lose.

mircea_popescu: nah i link a very narrow selection