asciilifeform: if tomorrow i sign a message with my key ' asciilifeform fleanode nick was compromised 2ks ago, ignore what the idjit said' -- also stands. names are clothing.
asciilifeform: that's what bothers me, that i can't yet prove.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu may well be right incidentally, re the impossibility of somebody lying about the e in a key, doing any damage . but i cannot yet prove.
asciilifeform: what happens if you change e to e', e' != e ?
asciilifeform finds that the l0gz do not currently contain a full description of rsa
asciilifeform: does mircea_popescu know a proof that i cannot choose an alternate e that will result in a pubkey that 1) verifies some or all of the existing signatures made with his genuine e + 2) verifies another, which he did not produce ?
asciilifeform: the use of a hash ( i.e. item guaranteed not to be 1:1 mapping ) to 'reference unambiguously' to something, is a fractionalreserveism.
asciilifeform: if e is free variable ( vs. '65537 4evah 4all' ) then having n is having half a pubkey.
asciilifeform: however they don't use hashes, so no collisions
asciilifeform: ( they die faster than born , so no shortages )
asciilifeform: the ham radio people still have iirc what, 5 letter names
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: why not take to logical conclusion : 1 bit : 1 == mircea_popescu , 0 == everybdy else, lol
asciilifeform: discussion is re permanent design for sane crypto.
asciilifeform: dun matter for how long it was state of the art in my chukchistan.
asciilifeform: after bath (ffa) is built, i have 0 intention of continuing to rub against tree trunk to clean.
asciilifeform: the historic 'it wasn't visible broken in my face' can justify any kind of shitcrypto, the use of winblowz, whatever customary syphilis . i ain't buying.
asciilifeform: you build bridge for 500 tanks, not for the wheelbarrows crossing river to date.
asciilifeform: that nobody saw it fit yet to do this in front of asciilifeform's face, is neither here nor there
asciilifeform: 20-50k usd gets you another 17215D118B7239507FAFED98B98228A001ABFFC7-sha1 but diff modulus.
asciilifeform: are we building a thousand year reich or not, lol
asciilifeform: with this argument you could justify arbitrarily breakable fp, say.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu's key with altered pubexp is a valid key, and not mechanically distinguishable from the original's in the absence of sigs.
asciilifeform: davout: 1) in person 2) via secure channel from people who you already know, who know $person.
asciilifeform: observe the mendacious idiocy of koch's signature code, where if sha1 hash collision is found , can forge sigs ~regardless of what sig algo hashing was set to~
asciilifeform: but outside , my key is my key. not a hash.
asciilifeform: how you keep straight the contents of own household, is none of my business
asciilifeform: and you're welcome to hash on own end, 'in harem'. just don't refer to my key as its hash, it is unseemly
asciilifeform: hashes are voodoo, there is not a hash of demonstrable strength for the same reason there is not block cipher of same ( they are different sides of same medal, we had thread with elementary proof )
asciilifeform: and it doesn't matter what you make it out of.
asciilifeform: davout: it has to be a fixed in advance hash function.
asciilifeform: yes indeed the Actual Thing costs moar than the plastic doll.
asciilifeform: this echoes the ffa 'omfg slow' discussions.
asciilifeform: get used to doing ~the actual thing~ instead of 'convenient' simulacra.
