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a111: Logged on 2017-05-07 05:43 fromloper: Well I got gdb working with the probe, but I can't seem to get the probe to work with the board. If I plug in the probe to the board, the board hangs. If i try continue I just get a bunch of ffffffs. If I do monitor run it says the probe is not connected. Here is a verbose output: https://pastebin.com/qWTwMuF5
a111: Logged on 2017-05-05 15:18 trinque: I don't run JS in either case
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-05#1652110 << and yeah to be clear i did skip this consciously, knowing that i'd be stepping into a swamp. and while i'd very much like to embrace http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-05#1652126 , it is the case that i'd like to be able to archive shitsites which don't render without JS. ☝︎☝︎
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-05#1652109 << yeah it does, relevant refs are probably http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-05#1637988 and http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-05#1638129 (re. images in particular, i know, painful) ☝︎☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-07#1652596 << i'm looking forward to 600 level courses consisting of tablet tapping cookbooks. ☝︎
fromloper: He has helped me with unlocking the probe. Now hopefully he can help me figure out what I'm doing wrong :-(
shinohai: hello fromloper ... I personally have not had opportunity to try this particular board yet, I'm sure asciilifeform can help you
fromloper: Well I got gdb working with the probe, but I can't seem to get the probe to work with the board. If I plug in the probe to the board, the board hangs. If i try continue I just get a bunch of ffffffs. If I do monitor run it says the probe is not connected. Here is a verbose output: https://pastebin.com/qWTwMuF5 ☟︎
mod6: i don't fuck around with it comes to atm
mircea_popescu: i had nfi.
ben_vulpes: i got one last lol in the chamber
BingoBoingo: none, I thought that's why god invented chinamen
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i've long wanted to design a ~new~ 68k box.
asciilifeform: today i give ~0 shits re intel.
fromloper: Bingo, I'm not saying there isn't a market, but it's not really where my interest is. The ideal is to find interest and market fit. If it was just about money I would just go work for google.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: back when i actually gave a shit, i looked for a copy of the relevant shitware. never found.
mircea_popescu: ah, ok. that's what i was asking.
fromloper: Be back in a bit. Gotta reboot and see if I can find a GD that won't crash with the smartprobe.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i'm preparing popcorn for when they finally unearth the pedophilia issue. so far swimming in the brackish water of imaginary problems that are only problems ot the problemizers. ☟︎
fromloper: I think the older ones had a shittier abstraction layer though. The python C# one is easy to reverse.
fromloper: I don't think the current version does anymore. All the FPGA images are XDP3 or XDP4. I know older versions of System Debugger had support for older XDPs. If you have a student email you can get System Studio for free and it has access to older versions which might support it.
asciilifeform: http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/~SMAAOxyoahSXzkX/s-l300.jpg
asciilifeform: so the amount of sympathy i have, is 0.
asciilifeform: funnily enough i have an intel xdp probe and even one of their seekrit dev boxes (complete with 'not for sale' sticker)
asciilifeform: i.e. runs with plain gdb, and 0 winblows liquishitware and nda.
fromloper: If I liked spending money I wouldn't be worrying about getting the $15 debug cable to work or an abandoned $200 probe.
fromloper: They have a "restricted" level NDA which is above the normal. You need to acually talk to people about your project insead of just signing up a webform. I'll look at Arium / Lauterbauch / Intel PDT if I get past POC and find some investors ;-)
fromloper: I'm at an inital research stage at this point if it pans out they have a heavier NDA and you can buy the private tools. At this point I'm just doing proof of concept so I don't want to invest too much if it doesn't pan out.
fromloper: mircea, because their public docs are shit and NDA just means I want share their secret shit. It's not a big deal to me.
fromloper: I'm not paid. It's my own startup. Other than the sage thing, wasn't specifically asking for help just discussing.
asciilifeform: i have 0 seekrit docs.
fromloper: I have NDA access, so I have slightly better documentation (but still shit and incomplete). Business decision. Intel only because that's where 95% of the market is. Also easier to do security research on ME and AMT if you can step through, which needs JTAG as well. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://qntra.net/2017/05/usg-asset-gavin-andresen-pretends-to-meaningfully-inspect-your-random/#comment-95936 << am i thick or is the guy entirely ignoring the quote.
fromloper: Ahh. Well no choice if I want to use intel's VMX instrutions but to use intel. Just trying to avoid having to spend $3000 for the standard ITP-XDP device and needing special expensive boards with an XDP port.
asciilifeform: for the reason described earlier, i have 0 interest in intel's debug
fromloper: I believe USB DCI is only on their Skylake+ U-Series chips which are geared towards mobile and those tend to have soldered SOP8s since they tend to either be laptops or NUCs
fromloper: I tried both ways :-/
fromloper: I powered it up, which got rid of the overcurrent error, but it couldn't read the chip. Maybe a bad clip and or the TL866a isn't up to the task. Kind of a novice at these things.
fromloper: I tried seeing if I could reprogram it via a TL866a but VCC isn't wired for in system programming and I didn't want to cut the trace on a system I might need to return
mircea_popescu: ah i guess there's thart
fromloper: There is a bug in Gigabyte's NUCs where they left DCI half enabled. Unfortuntly I bricked the one I had.
mod6: sounds like what i'm tryin to get into
fromloper: Now to see if I can find a gdb that works ;-)
asciilifeform: i posted the raw command set, theoretically you can use entirely straight gdb for any conceivable use of the box.
asciilifeform: as for edk, it is garbage and i never use it, so i have nfi
asciilifeform: probably i ought to add this to the article.
fromloper: Looks like the original has scrolled off, so I don't know
fromloper: One moment.. seeing if I can scrollback that far
fromloper: If I run sage_pill again, it seems to show the old CRCs and lets me update again?
ben_vulpes: freenode i mean
fromloper: If I hit enter a couple time ---SmartProbe: 3.2_3743 98:73:c4:00:05:43 0 SmartProbe: 3.2_3743 98:73:c4:00:05:43 0
fromloper: I get ---
fromloper: How do I reset the probe?
fromloper: Can anyone help me with sage_pill.py? When I run it, it gets though programming the FPGA, but then dies with: FPGA05: Programming FPGA completed SmartLoadergramming SmartLoader MSG009: Disabling SupportLibrary Traceback (most recent call last): File "./sage_pill.py", line 315, in <module> dump_forever() File "./sage_pill.py", line 251, in dump_forever l = sage.readline() File "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/seri
mod6: tonight I had another Venison & blue cheese burger... this time I did the heating slightly different.
phf`: oh i agree, i just thought an irc bouncer as an empty shell painted to look like the owner is amusing, or perhaps an aging lord dosing off
diana_coman: phf`, fwiw I am reading and I usually do; however, I tend to not talk much
mircea_popescu: but i certainly don't delegate the authority to some bouncer. wtf is this, the chinese imperial court ?
phf`: i take it, you don't use a bouncer, it's a long running xchat from your bunker?
phf`: perhaps i could make the bouncer !!down after some time, when there's no client connection (similar to how right now it sets an Away)
phf`: i feel like i have to do it roughly once a year, in fact, every time freenode changes their ssl. i listened to the advice of the wise this time and switched to plain text
mircea_popescu: diana_coman mine's been working on, i'm already at 6/50 clicks done!
shinohai: I agree .... I use aspell with a custom dictionary it is so bad.
mircea_popescu: basically it's 95% fail hits, most because no vocabulary. i don't think it'd pass the baccalaureate. wtf is wrong with people
shinohai: Happy World Naked Gardening Day BingoBoingo .... I trust you will celebrate in style.
mircea_popescu: well, latin idea originally, but anyway. latins couldn't bring themselves to care. i can readily see why.
mircea_popescu: mod6 i had cashew paste (little butter, hint of balsamic, fenilgreek and tarragon) salmon. with a very fine bottle of chianti. just waking up from the food coma.
mircea_popescu: what duke of this called himself "a warrior" and what the holy fuck, i thought this guy was supposed to be literate ? wtf happened at, say, agincourt ?
asciilifeform: i actually find orwell quite considerably less outrageous than linked d00d. in the time of o it was at least possible to imagine the commoners whom, if, e.g., churchill, had not eaten, might have 'done great things'. but today ?
asciilifeform: more typical yet, https://thewildpeak.wordpress.com/2013/07/24/dont-sit-like-melvyn-bragg >> 'I for one have the utmost respect for Churchill as a war leader, but what about Churchill as an aristocrat? What about his wealthy and privileged background? Where did the wealth to build Blenheim Palace come from? What had his ancestor John Churchill, The Duke of Marlborough, done to deserve it? Who were his victims?'
mod6: but, let's not worry about that for now, i got a working env on my side.
mod6: fwiw, i don't emacs or whatever it is.
mircea_popescu: i broadly inferred that "something happened".
asciilifeform: i thought this was a vaguely-sane d00d, not amoeba...
mircea_popescu: i don't expect by now there's any relation whatsoever between the mouth-like organ and the arm-like organ of the vaguely organised amoeba colony.
mircea_popescu: i see ty for help a+++ would quora again.
mircea_popescu: yes but it put together a maschinengewehr 42 when i followed wthem
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i ordered a kubinetes book but got instead an ikea box.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/rhezw/?raw=true << very helpful professional isp, i'm like... "oh, MY SERVER. that's unambiguous enough."
trinque: I see a bias of my own here, towards tuning out noise.
trinque: I guess I remain unconvinced that I ever gained anything paying attention to them
trinque: man I don't want to read every livejournal before condemning
trinque: I don't run JS in either case ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i thought one only wants the previews.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-05 11:39 Framedragger: new chrome version supports "headless" mode for very easy and accurate archiving. i'm curious, would the forum tolerate the use of chrome in an archiving tool (if properly packaged and (to the extent it's possible - yes, limited, barf) sanboxed)?
Framedragger: new chrome version supports "headless" mode for very easy and accurate archiving. i'm curious, would the forum tolerate the use of chrome in an archiving tool (if properly packaged and (to the extent it's possible - yes, limited, barf) sanboxed)? ☟︎
mod6: i was like "well... umm... tree is ON FIRE... so call fire dept?"
mod6: when i first moved into this place, the huge silver-maple tree was touching the high-wire during a storm. the branch actually caught fire in the rain. started to spread down the branch quite a ways...
BingoBoingo: <shinohai> So there is this chick that calls herself "Lil Wafarin" on twitter sent me a message. When I casually asked why she chose rat poison as her nom de guerre, she goes ballistic. << BwAHAHAHAHAHAH
mircea_popescu: ~the inner limit for what something like that can reasonably take, i figure. so... yeah.
mircea_popescu: mod6 i wasn't here for it, but one opf the places, tree fell over brought down power grid. ticoswarm, power back on 2 hrs later.
trinque: yeah, I found 'em friendly, helpful, and you could joke with them
mod6: i think you had all you could stand of that place.
mircea_popescu: way the fuck better than argentina, i'll tell you that. those idiots... god help them.
mod6: i suppose even with the rains it's pretty bad
mod6: i'd imagine that it'd be crazy.
mod6: wow. no, can't say that I have.
mod6: i bet the switchbacks were brutal on that hike 'eh?
mircea_popescu: i suspect kid was trying to impress attendant slavegirl.
mircea_popescu: the lane i told him to switch to ? stayed fast. so THERE!