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asciilifeform: (on a bad day!)
mircea_popescu: "oh but mp, it's not for a living". no, it's not, it's for a dying ;/
mircea_popescu: i am a bash programmer!
asciilifeform: i'ma ignore this nonsense coming from a fella who doesn't program.
mircea_popescu: no. i am simply saying i am a better man than you. and you will either 120 or live with knowing this.
mircea_popescu: and if you try to read people with viewport larger than yours, either buy a better system or live with your inferiority.
asciilifeform: ( in a macro def, say )
a111: Logged on 2017-05-15 15:07 asciilifeform: fact. there is not a proggy that will intelligently, cleanly, break lines of code in every known lang
Framedragger: so instead of writing code i now need to write a code editor which can break code lines code-semantically? :/ ☟︎
asciilifeform: think of line breaks as a comment.
asciilifeform: fact. there is not a proggy that will intelligently, cleanly, break lines of code in every known lang ☟︎
asciilifeform: there is not even necessarily a correct place to break it.
asciilifeform: not if it's a line of code, it aint
mircea_popescu: stop being a fucking web designer in your spare time.
mircea_popescu: fu. it's not your fucking problem. your paragraph is a line. how (or whether) that line is broken is the problem of whoever displays it.
asciilifeform: ( i'd guess even the furnace stokers at microshit grasp that the entire operation is very little more than a factory for nsa pwnholes )
mircea_popescu: "oh, the soviets got defeated by a buncha chukas, but it is not the peace&defense ministry's fault! it's the supplies&items ministry's fault!"
asciilifeform: playing a rape scene for camera.
mircea_popescu: lol, usg.ms duking it out with usg.nsa over the fact that they got publicly raped a little ?
mircea_popescu: but i carry a large stick, and dun mind hurting people.
mircea_popescu: apparently a bunch of idiots watch too much netflix and don't encounter nearly enough clubs to the mouth to know better than trying to apply in life what they saw in the cartoons.
asciilifeform: against a 0 balance, even.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform it's actually a public utility. has absolutely no right over the usage of its monopoly, much like electric co can't cut your power.
asciilifeform: not as if 'free world' 'bank' were a private org. rather than a crown organ where plebe is to put his meager savings for ease of requisitioning.
Framedragger had to supply a coupla raised invoices in UK for bank to say "mk this bzns looks like serious bzns". felt dodgy (i can raise invoice to ur mom)
asciilifeform: they do require a postal addr that isn't a box, lulzily
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform check out this lulz : in order to open a bank account, ALL banks of costa rica require the company present them with a PROJECTED CASH FLOW! supposedly because there's some law so requiring them, which i dun much credit, but i do intend to find a lawyer and ask their local constitutional court. in any case, all this supposedly because "since 9/11 the ustards forced them to", which is obviously lulzy since the ust
asciilifeform: in other lulz, https://archive.is/x3RZM >> 'The Allianz Deutscher Demokraten (ADD), a political party in Germany founded by Turkish-Germans, has faced another obstacle after their bank account was shut down for the fourth time for no reason.'
mircea_popescu: "yea, please, more gilding, and use thicker leaf, maybe i manage to sink in earth like a raft adrift the oceans."
mircea_popescu: hoarding it like ~ is borne of a very flattering view of humanity, supposing somehow that the worms could also not be worms, if $magic, such as you know, reading a book.
asciilifeform: but it's a whole-day chore ( if done correctly ) with current tech. so ~nobody bothers.
asciilifeform: i'll grudgingly agree with the folx who remind that the correct thing to do with a rare b00k is to scan it, not to hoard it like koschei's treasures
mircea_popescu: i also hoard dead tree, it's called furniture. but in that application works fabulously well, the absence of a different couch does in no way detract from the damsel's moans who's overturned on it.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not for hoarding dead tree per se, but for attempting to apply a linear solution to a nonlinear problem WAY past the point where the mismatch should have become obvious.
mircea_popescu: works well enough if one decides to be say, a playwright. all you need is already published and already known, learn greek and latin and go ahead.
mircea_popescu: but the overarching point is that a life of the spirit requires you read books you DIDNT read before. re-reading the same books you already know is a dubious benefit.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: send a gurl to library with a minox ?
mircea_popescu: i dun feel like paying amazon 30 bux because who the fuck are they, not like they helped me know i hafta read this, and not like there can exist another merit ; i dun feel like waiting till they deliver. i did see the book at one point, in library, of course, which is how i know it exists, but i'm not going back there to read a book.
mircea_popescu: phf` suppose this morning you have to read l'histoire de mademoiselle cronel ditte fretilon. because whatever, as part of your plurious activities you're helping a girl get a place off the ground and being a serious agent you scoop the quarries of truth quite that deep. what now ?
shinohai: He is, if I ever find some Indian city willing to accept Bitcoin in exchange for naming a designated shitting street after him, I will gladly memorialize him.
mircea_popescu: but he thought he is a speshul pajeet!
mircea_popescu: maybe he never overcomes the moment, spends rest of his life cringing over this, like a sort of lefty rms.
shinohai: I was trying to think of how to spin a Qntra out of it, but it was quite lulzy on it's own.
mircea_popescu: "scholar in residence", they wouldn't even give him a chair. NYU ffs! next step down was what, supervising the used sportsbras of the ohio state sluts ?
BingoBoingo: But wankel while a 4-stroke is a total loss design that even has oil injection, a feature usually reserved for larger 2-strokes
BingoBoingo: The wankel being a 4-stroke, or poor fellow who misadventured on 4-stroke strimmer getting jewed of of half the power strokes he'd have on a 2-cycle
BingoBoingo today had to console poor fellow who burdened himself with a 4-cycle string trimmer "It seems to not be that powerful" "Of course it's not, there's half as many power strokes"
BingoBoingo: The wankel is indeed a total oil loss system, which means FU PETROIL!
asciilifeform: in theory was to give a less stupid elsewhere in mechanism.
BingoBoingo: The only problem with Mazda wenkels is the stupid insistence on oil injection instead of just running a 2-cycle petroil mix
mircea_popescu: paper is a miserable fit for the manner in which i read. one day ima actually manage to put into algo form the sort of tree i wish to see
mircea_popescu: my problems are exactly opposite : http://trilema.com/2016/there-has-not-yet-been-seen-a-simple-thing-even-if-were-drowning-in-simple-people/#selection-23.0-27.60
asciilifeform: imho it is a style-crosses-into-substance
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 23:47 mircea_popescu: we already arguably lost a contributor because he couldn't predict what we wouldn't like about the STYLE, rather than substance of his work.
asciilifeform: dunno that you get modem in solitary. or there'd be a queue to sit.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-09 13:04 asciilifeform: it is possible that solitary prisoners go mad from simple boredom. notice that nobody is ever imprisoned in a library.
mircea_popescu: gutenberg statistics ? 24 downloads for regrets sur ma vieille robe de chambre. in a fucking decade. because, of course, http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-09#1653782 ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: yeah, mebbe just talk about it a little.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> we already arguably lost a contributor because he couldn't predict what we wouldn't like about the STYLE, rather than substance of his work. << i kinda agree that some type of loose style guide should be created and posted to minimize churn/rework to assimilate
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 22:11 ben_vulpes: one wrinkle that occurred to me as i tested this patch against a not-completely synced node this afternoon is that satoshi's early transactions were all of the "pay to pubkey" variety, and not today's standard "pay to pubkey hash" breed.
ben_vulpes: it does surprise me that the function is declared to return a boolean, but the compiler says nothing about a branch where it might not return anything.
mircea_popescu: seems it'd have benefitted from a default return ?
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: hm. a map structure and an iterator over it seems clear to me, imho. just looks unfamiliar to a c developer. but not arguing further
mircea_popescu: we already arguably lost a contributor because he couldn't predict what we wouldn't like about the STYLE, rather than substance of his work. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: Framedragger it does ; not from boost ; satoshi'd have written it as a boost thing im sure
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: that is a standard c99 for loop.
mircea_popescu: + for (std::map<uint256, std::list<OutputIndex> >::iterator i = relevantOutputs.begin(); i != relevantOutputs.end();) { <<< took me a triple take.
lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-05-14 21:17:35: <danielpbarron> aaand i have done it. i have a laptop that powers on and without any other touching will end up at the eulora login screen. then when you quit, it drops down to gdb where you can run it again or quit. if you quit, the machine shuts down
ben_vulpes: one wrinkle that occurred to me as i tested this patch against a not-completely synced node this afternoon is that satoshi's early transactions were all of the "pay to pubkey" variety, and not today's standard "pay to pubkey hash" breed. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: relatedly, i have a patch in abeyance that fixes the test target. i'll bring that out of the refrigerator and start wiring this new IsMine implementation into it.
ben_vulpes: absolutely, but you can use the previous method today, and this thing promises to take a while.
trinque: deposits shall be a human process in either case; I'll just have more to do manually until this thing's done
trinque: yes, but aren't you here working on a better implementation of that?
ben_vulpes: no, he wrote a c proggy that cuts blkindex files
ben_vulpes: trinque: you can do this today with the slicer i published a while back
trinque still haxing on the deedbot invoicer anyway, but at some point will greatly appreciate a way to track address balances without having privkeys around
ben_vulpes: mod6: it is certain to take more than a week
mod6: He asked me to post my concern here just to start a general dialog about this, and I think that's just fine.
mod6: one of the things that, in a 9 second quick review of this that I asked him to consider was in the implementation of "IsMine"; Specifically, "Consider: What do I return from IsMine if I iterate over the entire list and never find a OP_PUBKEYHASH?".
asciilifeform: followed the apparently inevitable curve of 'the a-students hire the b-students who hire the c-students who ...'
asciilifeform: megatonnes of liquishit of every description; the 1 good survey of a subject in english - nodice
asciilifeform: many interesting details re particulars of the procedure also ( not of the physical aspects, these are well known - but of humint prepwork prior to ordering a seppukation - gotta make sure the 'star' of the show doesn't bolt )
asciilifeform: also apparently bakufu (shogunate) government had serious problem with 'my commander died, now i will seppuku', and tried to suppress it ( subordinate belongs serving the old master's son, what a waste ) but repeatedly failed.
asciilifeform: e.g., seppuku by a subordinate so as to help his commander prep for own seppuku
asciilifeform: seppuku was not about picturesque way to cash in yer chips, but part of a system.
asciilifeform: re bushido, asciilifeform just read a marvelous treatise on seppuku, the only one afaik of its kind in english
asciilifeform: but mircea_popescu nails it, encyclopaedia is made to be a kind of standards document, for what a cultured man is expected to be aware of
mircea_popescu: to be noted that l'encyclopedie (the 1700s item) was a LITERARY WORK. with d'alembert almost a sort of tolkien of his time. it mattered not so much whether the items contained were right or wrong (obviously most were wrong, 1700s) but the fact that you could rely on every respectable gent knowing at least of them.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-14 17:23 mircea_popescu: no skin off my back. so i'll be the last person alive to know anything, and every girl i ever meet who's not a retard feels an irrepressible urge to kneel and beg.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform not to being a thinking man ; to not being a savage. it's fundamentally negative. know this so you don't end up in the tribe.
asciilifeform: but important point -- without it , you are a zulu. regardless of what else you might have.
mircea_popescu: yes, but the underscore of it all was "these are the things zulus do not know : machine gun, etc. know these so you do not grow up into a zulu."
asciilifeform: general-purpose intro to being a thinking man
mircea_popescu: the tmsr log serves a very similar function to diderot's offering, in practice.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform had a 1958 'britannica', made in usa, that he fished out of a dumpster as a boy. it was superb, as far as encyclopaedia goes, about on par with famous большая советская энциклопедия . but today it lives packed in a crate. ☟︎
asciilifeform: a kind of intellectual fast-food.
asciilifeform has often wondered if encyclopaedias, even in the golden age of same (1950s, perhaps) , were useful other than for letting a bright kid know 'approximately what exists' . to adult they served largely same purpose as pediwikia today - 'pulling feeling-knowledgeable cock'
mircea_popescu: no skin off my back. so i'll be the last person alive to know anything, and every girl i ever meet who's not a retard feels an irrepressible urge to kneel and beg. ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu has an old article about a giant crushing chairs, etc
mircea_popescu: they however do not appear willing to compare the 500 hours a dozen men put in to produce an encyclopedia with the 5000 hours a dozen million imbeciles put in to compile the steaming pile of shit aka "online encyclopedia".