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mircea_popescu: "independent contractors", ie govt paper pushers without health insurance or pensions. if they don't have a job, what do they do ? shoot hillary ?
shinohai: moli_: If you would like assistance in setting up a znc or weechat instance to help curb the join/part spam, please PM me.
asciilifeform: !~later tell danielpbarron iirc someone ( pete_dushenski ? ) recently had same problem, culprit was a corrupted ( passed through a www browser that raped the line endings ) vpatch.
danielpbarron: i'm sure i also have an old copy, but this is a totally new machine
danielpbarron: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659495 << i'm using a mouse with 1 button and even that's too many buttons. mouse just needs to point; keyboard can click. ☝︎
asciilifeform: phf: and tmsr is a thorium molten salt reactor, dun forget.
phf: “P: A programming language for asynchrony, fault-tolerance and uncertainty (microsoft.com)” cc asciilifeform
mircea_popescu: "if it dun feel like much of a fuck, she might sit put a turn."
phf: rich hickey is a common lisper, i met him at philly ete back when the language was still in flux, and thought that his pedigree is going to be a benefit to the system that he's trying to build. not so. he made similar rationalization to gosling "such and such feature is complicated for the end lusers, so i decided we're not going to support it" re readtables, exception, proper type hierarchy, etc.
trinque: publishing a fake fix that wrapped it in yet another layer of ransomware would be top trolling.
shinohai: The glorious Republic, where many eyes will ensure not a single spelling snafu goes unnoticed.
mircea_popescu: such a weird thing to want.
ben_vulpes: eh, man needs a shovel to take care of shitpile.
ben_vulpes: abcl will drop one into a debugger
ben_vulpes: well yes, jvm a shit.
asciilifeform: pen is great, i have a recent wacom here, but software support is ~nil
mircea_popescu: i think if i cad;d mnuch i;d get a pen though.
asciilifeform: good thing there's a few folx who can stand it
ben_vulpes: besides, once one learns to use a non-detenting wheel, detents are offensive.
mircea_popescu: i'm not particularly against. very little more amusing than obviously tenner-a-blowjob latinos derping about how they found some loser and hurr durr.
mircea_popescu: (bates, fwiw, is a "liberal arts" place. not sure why they pretend to a math dept.)
shinohai: Sounds like a female thestringpuller
mircea_popescu: entirely unsurprisingly, adriana salerno aka https://www.bates.edu/mathematics/faculty-staff/salerno-adriana-j/ is some random whore from venezuela who a) has no research to show for the food and board "patriarchy" gave her and b) wishes to scold people who fed and clothe her for free because "they aren't doing enough", while she herself is not catching first flight back to caracas to be raped into the dirt like all the othe
juscamarena: he basically thinks you're a god :)
asciilifeform: pete_dushenski: 'As time marches on and you start to earn more income and you buy a few more t-shirts, a single polo shirt, new jeans, and some Nike runners – but it’s never quite enough. The fashions are changing too quickly and what you wore before soon looks dated and passe..' << dafuq
mircea_popescu: why the fuck anyone would be on a "committee" is beyond my meagre imaginative powers.
deedbot: http://www.contravex.com/2017/05/19/the-oppressiveness-of-the-casual-dress-code/ << » Contravex: A blog by Pete Dushenski - The oppressiveness of the casual dress code.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 21:30 mircea_popescu: want a good $item find an old $item final age of glorious socialism is upon us huh.
ben_vulpes: in other holy shits i never knew: "jfli A descendent of Rich Hickey’s pre-Clojure work on the JVM."
mircea_popescu: want a good $item find an old $item final age of glorious socialism is upon us huh. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: hey if i could buy a revolution in usa for 5 grand i would
mircea_popescu: he doubles every day ? since when, a coupla months ago ?
ben_vulpes: grade a brochureware
mircea_popescu: yeah. sold for i dun recall, 30k i think a few years later.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's not terribly expensive, let's put it that way. not a steal either.
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: 300k buys a cr palace compared to pdx hovel
asciilifeform: as for the cr photos -- i gotta admit, buenos aires looked like a civilized city, esp in contrast. whereas cr looks moar like what asciilifeform imagined 'banana republic' when reading as a child.
asciilifeform: cement thing full of rubbish that we ran into on a walk
asciilifeform: now where do i buy a pocket mircea_popescu !1111
mircea_popescu: there isn't in math a possible classification of errors. any one is sufficient to "prove" all others.
mircea_popescu: i thought we do that like twice a week.
asciilifeform: gimme a propagating eggog, a la div0 or 4 := 5 , that results from 0**0=1.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this isn't a business transaction. i dun give a shit who suffers from math.
mircea_popescu: 4 != 5 also makes whatever a bitch.
asciilifeform: ( summary : 0**0 != 1 would make expansion of taylor series a bitch ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: it's a eggog
asciilifeform: the other thing is that key gen that takes a year, instead of 10yrs, is still not useful.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659351 << gotta realize, you need a 8192b register to do 4096 (e.g., mircea_popescu's familiar mod) key. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 19:41 asciilifeform: there is, however, a logical (if you will) component . there's a school of thought among lizards - normally ted turner is the name that comes up, but only because he afaik was the only unabashed, publicly confessed adherent -- that it'd be nice, from lizard pov, to physically exterminate the (actual) free world
danielpbarron: but that's a weaker argument to make since there are zero terms
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 19:23 phf: when i said mutations, i meant the iterative selection stuff. i don't know how well the seeds store, and if they don't, then there's not much of a point to the whole thing.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 19:12 phf: i think if not for an implicit whiny political message, it could've been a nifty long now project. if nothing else, a seed repository for museum purposes. it would be, for example, interesting to observe natural mutations that might take place from now till the vault is consulted
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-19#1659318 << maybe i'm not getting what you're saying, but how are the mutations to occur in a vault ? they're not growing and producing seeds and growing again, are they ? or you want to examine what, individual embryo cells ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-05-19 19:08 phf: you'd think, in an engineering project, rather then a political one, an incident like that is a welcome opportunity to go back to drawing board and attempt to address the deficiencies of current design
asciilifeform: there is, however, a logical (if you will) component . there's a school of thought among lizards - normally ted turner is the name that comes up, but only because he afaik was the only unabashed, publicly confessed adherent -- that it'd be nice, from lizard pov, to physically exterminate the (actual) free world ☟︎
phf: well, i think mythological devices are not inherently bad as long as they have some aesthetic value to it. problems is most of these projects are mythology for progressive bureaucrats, so they are fully stripped of aesthetics and only have implied didactic value. sort of like a church with an angry god, but no awesome transcendent
asciilifeform: exactly like a missile shield.
phf: well, it's a mythological device
asciilifeform: at any rate i can scarcely picture what the advertised vault could be other than a targeting decoy.
phf: when i said mutations, i meant the iterative selection stuff. i don't know how well the seeds store, and if they don't, then there's not much of a point to the whole thing. ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i was laboring under the delusion that it /was/ a long now project!
phf: i think if not for an implicit whiny political message, it could've been a nifty long now project. if nothing else, a seed repository for museum purposes. it would be, for example, interesting to observe natural mutations that might take place from now till the vault is consulted ☟︎
asciilifeform: only monsantotronic ones ( and even these, somewhat of a stretch )
phf: you'd think, in an engineering project, rather then a political one, an incident like that is a welcome opportunity to go back to drawing board and attempt to address the deficiencies of current design ☟︎
asciilifeform: thing's as legit a military target, imho , as it gets.
a111: Logged on 2017-05-18 18:57 asciilifeform: there is no money, in modern usg reich, in SOLVING a problem
ben_vulpes: well pay 10x up front for a thing that works, or 1x for a thing that appears to work so long as we don't move too far from initial conditions.
asciilifeform: hey, it ain't a disaster, it's practically a cheque for 4x the grantolade
ben_vulpes: so you dug a hole in a mountain and called it an impregnable vault
asciilifeform: but having a 'mul' instruction is in fact a thing on the same continuum!
asciilifeform: the multiplication problem is incidentally a textbook instance of 'specificity of diddling'. if someone offered any of you a cpu that has a 'rsa instruction', you'd barf. because very clearly paints a target for the enemy, giving him info he has no business having re what you intend to eat, when, with what spoon
asciilifeform: but at least sees that it is a problem..
asciilifeform: witness, incidentally, the lack of a 'constant-MUL' instruction on any extant cpu.
asciilifeform: a 'schoolbook' (word-by-word, using * (which will compile to IMUL instr on x86) multiplier will be faster than the 'egyptian' one. the catch is,
a111: Logged on 2017-05-03 13:11 mircea_popescu: and if mp organises a conference there's going to be a conference and if he does not there's not going to be one and if we need an isp how about mp makes it and so on and so forth up the fucking wall.
asciilifeform in a http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-03#1651249 mood ☝︎
asciilifeform: nao we need a non-recursive (! , SPARK won't allow recursion nor is it constanttimesafe to have any), constant-time karatsuba...
asciilifeform: a 8192-bit mul takes ~0.06s
asciilifeform: in other news, a 4096-bit A**B takes approx 14 seconds (3GHz) . ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: as for 'ar is too far', d00d was (from his pov) poor -- a small wad of btc, but the damocle's sword of having to do honest work one day, loomed; then he 'sold the motherland' and now rich, problemsolved.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the only reason this is lulzy is because (different) girl estimated him incapable of going further than a few hundred miles for cultural / mentality reasons.
asciilifeform: i dun recall whether he made a cn stop
mircea_popescu: the result of making all possible change, even the most dismal and unimportant, mindboggling expensive is a large set of cows. they dun care. why shouyld they care ? while the oats & hay lasts they eat and foal ; once it ends it ends. that's all.
mircea_popescu: "for a purpose so secret no one may know what it is" etc.
mircea_popescu: im pretty sure that's right, they literally don't give a shit about anything that's further out than lunch break / takes more thought than lulzpic etc.
ben_vulpes: asciilifeform: has to come out of a script at this point
asciilifeform: which is a little odd, for a d00d supposedly relaxing in the company of fine whores on thai beaches
ben_vulpes: well it took months, but the shannonizers have finally figured out that #bitcoin-assets doesn't have a voice model
mircea_popescu: soviet jokes also "didn't catch on", which became a joke in itself -- teh georgians dun understand all these muscovy joeks!
mircea_popescu: no culture. nothing can "catch on" in any meaningful sense. romania is a nation, the us is a sort of india.
mircea_popescu: well, there was this ro version of le canard enchaine ; it was really good. for half a decade or so, absolutely mandatory reading. some shit in there i laughed at for days.
asciilifeform: this is a rather low bar, however. the marksmanship to correctly eat your pistol.
mircea_popescu: there's all sorts of losers who imagine these objects are a sort of holy amulet, and the only reason they dun do anything is because "they don't want to", but if "one day" they "decided" to "use them" then WHAM!
mircea_popescu: eh, he's a pasty. wtf does he know about guns or shooting them.
mircea_popescu: but anyway -- was a major victory for the us dept of nuland, because thsi was the first time local aristocracy actrually got the black treatment. guy took it verypersonal, tried to shoot self, had a hole in jaw for a while.
mircea_popescu: in this specific case, for taking a bribe in the form of some electoral campaign materials some other dudes gave some other dudes in exchange for what some other dudes did.
mircea_popescu: what for ? well, for being a contemptible low life. plenty of shit to convict her of, if you actually were to apply you know, "the iron hand of teh law" that black dudes with a nickle bag keep running into.
asciilifeform: and a comp in the shitter
asciilifeform: probably same d00d has a vcr in his auto
phf: the three witches from macbeth! i always imagine them cackling. so you're walking around the street, hear cackling, which is a kind of call of inevitability, you shake it off like "begone, chimera, must be some weird beard, nothing else" but you ~know~