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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i
think you're
thinking of
the case where you compile your
thing and install it as bytecode. i was
thinking of
the case where you compile locally.
mircea_popescu: jurov
the discussion was as
to how often
they get overwritten
jurov: xmm registers aren't anything exceptional. os saves
them into memory on context switch like everything else
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform "no one" ? yes, one.
the machine may force you
to whether you want
to or not.
mircea_popescu: jurov im pretty sure it all does, but
they don';t all have
to be xmm via aesni
jurov: mircea you know of any crypto
that doesn't need registers?
mircea_popescu: Consider
the "XMM" registers on
the x86 architecture:
They will only be used by
the SSE family of instructions, which is not widely used in most applications — so once a value is stored in one of
those registers, it may remain
there for a long
time. One of
the rare instances
those registers are used by cryptographic code, however, is for AES computations, using
the "AESNI" instruction set.
mircea_popescu: but ideally - while i can live without running a webserver off
this - i still want
to have bash
mircea_popescu: jurov no. i am
talking about an os
that only processes encrypted data.
mircea_popescu: in principle you should be able
to define an object whose malleability allows enough functions
to work so as
to be
turing-complete.
jurov: you are prolly
talking about cpu
that guarantees no unencrypoted data leaves its internal cache?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform yes. ie,
that you can cryptographically verify
that no other user can read your space, ever, at all.
jurov: on other side,
they get saved into..memory
mircea_popescu: how
to make an os
that behaves "provalby fair", for
that matter, ios still very much an open question
jurov: he's writing about registers, not memory.. but
then, on one side
they get wiped on context switch
mircea_popescu: the problem is unresolvable : without cryptographically verified multi-user ability,
there is no way
to run crypto on shared system.
mircea_popescu: "decided
to sanitize his stack by zeroing until he
triggered a page fault"
this in particular does nothing.
jurov: (not mentioned in
tfa at all, fo course)
mircea_popescu: i came back
to say "wait,
that's only part of
the story"
cazalla: i've read
that before, i assume because
the fathers need sleep
to hunt
the next day
mircea_popescu: clearly you're
tuned for machinery and she's
tuned
to babies.
cazalla: chainsaw wakes me but baby never does, just
the wife, she is still sleeping, didn't hear chainsaw
cazalla: asciilifeform, would be nice but
they're cutting down
trees
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
thus doctor - doctorita. literally, little-she doctor.
cazalla: nothing like someone using a chainsaw at 3am
to wake you up
mircea_popescu: in romanian comedienne is formed as
the diminutive. comediette.
mircea_popescu: tractoritza lol.
that's exactly how you'd say it in romanian.
mircea_popescu: something of which mice are malignantly made
the figurehead of.
they are not.
mircea_popescu: no, dope doesn't enter into it. all
that's required is
the proposition
that surviving
today is more important
than living well.
mircea_popescu: except
the romanian "intellectuals" and for
that matter
the zeks got no dope.
assbot: Vina batranilor pe
Trilema - Un blog de Mircea Popescu.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform you will notice
that he could have just resisted
the glass jar
through culture.
mircea_popescu: you know,
this was
the first mice i've seen in a decade.
mircea_popescu: lol
this here is
the premise of a decent speculative spy fiction story
BingoBoingo: Maybe asciilifeform has
the actual NIMH rats
mircea_popescu: when
they start with
the "we're not animals" bits, i
tend
to glaze over and
think "no, you're not, are you".
mircea_popescu: it's also why i
tend
to be suspicious of people
that despise animals. generally it's
the sign
they're not as intellectually respectable as
the average field mouse.
mircea_popescu: so : let
them fucking die
trying. you can't live where you are ? walk
to where you can live.
mircea_popescu: now -
the point here being
that a correct set of priorities will in fact move mountains, and my work at my computer as compared in any perspective
to a mouse's activities is mountaineous.
mircea_popescu: which is why i eventually stood up from my fucking work,
took it
to a vacant field further down and let it be.
mircea_popescu: instead, it kept
trying
to chew sheet metal with it's
truely
tiny, half mm in width
teeth.
mircea_popescu: eventually i was oh enough of
this shit, and so put
the vessel on its side.
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding
that
the lid was you know, on a
thread for crying out loud. and since i punched
the holes from outside, notwithstanding
that
there were jagged shards of metal pointing his way, which he could i guess sorta- avoid.
tho he mostly looked
to be jumping blindly.
mircea_popescu: what did he do ? he kept jumping.
trying
to push
the lid off with his
tiny nose. ding-ding-ding-ding
mircea_popescu: and i get a good look at
the guy, you know ? after all,
this had been his land for a long long
time, generations of his forefathers had hunted for hayseeds and whatnot on complicated ,
traditional walk patters all over
the field of my garden
mircea_popescu: a little later,
the guy is caught, of course. so i put him in a large glass jar with a metal lid, after punching some holes with a screwdriverr in
that lid.
mircea_popescu: so i know it's a mouse, right ? and so i get a large bowl, and
tape some floss
to a pack of ciggs. put some cheese under
the propper bowl and get back
to chatting.
mircea_popescu: something like
that. so one night while in here, i see movement in
the corner of my eye
☟︎☟︎ mircea_popescu: for centuries prior,
that land had been - how do you call fields cultrivated with hay ?
mircea_popescu: so last autumn i was living in a recently developped residential area - i guess what would be a gated community in
the us, except romanians don't gate.
mircea_popescu: want me
to
tell you
the story of my recent adventure with a cute little fuzzball ?
mircea_popescu: much like cellars create
the possibility of very uncomfortable sleep in
the dank darkness.
mircea_popescu: it creates
the POSSIBILITY of it asciilifeform. not
the actuiality and not really
the obligaiton.
mircea_popescu: if
they can't have had so agreed,
they in fact didn't so agree.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform
this convention, like all
things man made, is attendant on it being possible.
mircea_popescu: just because it's practically inconvenient doesn't make it less
the correct solution.