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mircea_popescu: whether he ever ends up euler or not, 5yo child is math-educable, provided that every time his mother goes "oh, poor darling shouldn't have to" she gets a black eye.
mircea_popescu: doesn't seem a very fair summary.
asciilifeform: we already iirc did the a:'so how many solved the ffa puzzlers' m : 'i wouldn't waste a precious trained gurl on such dirty works' thrd, dun have to replay.
asciilifeform: can't find what to dispute, tho will note that redditus-detector like any other detector oughta stay in calibration, if it's set off by gust of wind, it's not a detector at all
mircea_popescu: THEN there's all the people who aren't my slaves, who STILL fucking read each line of this here log. also "doesn't take anything" ?
mircea_popescu: and then they don't, because http://trilema.com/2017/the-practical-costs-of-hallucinated-freedom/ still very much a thing, and slaveworld mindset very much still http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892453 and so on. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: people visit the senate as a museum all the time, even schoolkids manage it alright. but they do it ~knowing where they are~, it seems to me you do an orc grave disservice if you don't even mention a thing such a town may exist, then take him there. obviously naive extension of whatever shiteating passes in his wilderness will get him thrown out.
asciilifeform: ( haven't grown any to pupae yet, but whoknows, possibly 1 day )
mircea_popescu: now you tell me how you distinguish between case http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892453 and case ~everything this dood spewed. there's http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-30#1876356 on the record, and i wasn't kidding then, either. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: #trilema is the forum of the most serene republic, not "an irc channel" or whatever other http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-03#1869074 -bred nonsense / "consumers have come to expect", and i don't give shit one whether the yokels think they have or think they haven't one in "their" town. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-20 00:45 asciilifeform: y'know full well that engineers can't find own head from arse in 'fields easier to observe'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no but listen, this "republic ?! we ain't heard of no stinkin' republic here in bedford, indiana!" quaintness might've been at some point even tolerated -- but it was always ~tolerated~, and in the terms of "oh, check out this moron".
asciilifeform: re preconditions : theoretically they allow for certain optimizations ( mythical 'sufficiently smart compiler' could infer that various range checks cannot be violated if precondition holds ) but afaik our gnat doesn't do this, and i'm not certain that i'd like it if it did
asciilifeform: wasn't implying that diana_coman picked with dartboard, lolno.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: fwiw i didn't end up on 2012 blindly, actually walked the feature ladder and consciously picked. ☟︎
asciilifeform: -83 won't build diana_coman's proggy either, there was no tasks annex in -83.
asciilifeform: this can be worked around, but would add gnarl, and i won't touch it unless someone gives a compelling argument re why oughta build on a -83.
asciilifeform: truly vintage (ada-83) won't eat ffa, there is use of 'in out' parameters.
asciilifeform: can't see how could go wrong with that.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: posssibly i oughtn't to graduate'em till they solve all the ffa homeworks.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: so apparently he hadn't read all 7 yrs of log. tho mircea_popescu did not say that this was why got the boot.
asciilifeform: 'where they cut off yer lips when they don't like yer smile!'(tm)(r)(disney)
mircea_popescu: There's really no need for pompous assholes vomiting their self importance all over the log. Dude hasn't read at the very least the basics, can't ~possibly~ be fucking welcome here, let him go to reddit or whatever an' be happy there.
mircea_popescu: suppose you move over to #asciilifeform then ? because EXACTLY as the topic says, if you don't know where you are, you shouldn't be here.
asciilifeform: on top of this, there's a coupla kilometer of thread in the #t logs re what made the thing interesting.
verisimilitude: Unfortunately for me, I don't own a Lisp Machine.
verisimilitude: It's nice to even imagine having something that simply is and doesn't require building at all.
asciilifeform: trinque: fwiw i routinely disasm what my gnat shits forth, and haven't yet found any 'surprises', so if ye olde gnat is indeed thompsonistic, it is quite subtle , rather than hammer-in-yer-face 'here's a MB of ??? that phones home to mars'
trinque: yep, already need working vtools to run the bootstrapper, so it's not as if there isn't a list of requirements for build env
asciilifeform: so in principle it doesn't particularly matter what flavour of linux you're on (unless want to ~rebuild~ it, then will take a bit of sweat)
asciilifeform: i intend to port ffa to msdos, for instance, and don't expect that gnat will be building it ~on~ dos box.
verisimilitude: I'm currently using GuixSD and GNAT isn't available at all, is what I mean.
verisimilitude: The Ada program I have planned is in a similar way unconcerned with some of the more advanced features, because much of it is very concrete by now; it shouldn't even need to allocate memory until I have an undo and redo system in it.
asciilifeform: verisimilitude: there are other langs with strong typing, but afaik ada is the only 1 where a) with actual standard b) doesn't drag along a gargantuan runtime that won't sit down in small single-chip boxes etc
verisimilitude: There's the saying one shouldn't learn a language that doesn't change the way one thinks; I figured if I would learn at least one language with keyword-based syntax, strong static typing, a lack of advanced metaprogramming, among other qualities, that I should learn Ada.
verisimilitude: Common Lisp is nice, but I want to handle memory exhaustion well and also avoid using megabytes for programs that shouldn't need that much.
verisimilitude: I was told by deedbot I couldn't $up myself.
a111: Logged on 2014-10-10 00:58 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 10k line/250kb limit. if you overrun it you get shot << chuck moore (of 'forth' fame) seems kinda in favour of this. as am i. a kind of 'environmentalism' i've been advocating for many years (intellectual pollution doesn't blacken mere lungs. it makes everybody - stupider. measurably.)
asciilifeform: grr can't find in o(1). but the unifying thread is, when tools of the 'soft' variety appears, all sortsa folx, not even necessarily stupid, became afflicted with the erroneous notion that they have '0 cost' because coad dun have mass and can be cribbed gratis
mircea_popescu: "i can't do any ffa work because i'm working on a manner in which to do it that wouldn't produce the idle inquiry of loc 6 months in"
mircea_popescu: except i don't drink beer, but drink spirits. not whiskey, nor any other stoolbrandy, but nevertheless.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892309 <-- funfact: /me reads plenty of asm on his saecular assignments, mostly to maintain & debug shit software stacks that crash in weird ways. haven't written any asm in a while tho, and dos asm especially has been a challenge last time I looked at it ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-04 16:49 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892247 << see how comms trip you up ? had you ~said~ this much i'd have said very different things, because i entirely don't see the problem with a cl blogotron.
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892287 <-- yes pl0x, it would be much help. my biggest issue atm is having to do manual greps after <link rel="pingback" href="..." />, haven't been able yet to get something reliable that doesn't require parsing html ☝︎
mircea_popescu: hahaha there's some of that isn't there.
mircea_popescu: and so on. wtf, i can't dedicate my life to documenting my past life because then who's gonna produce the future.
mircea_popescu: "You will lose the right to bear arms, not because they hate you, but because you aren't worth it, and you will lose the right to speak freely, not because they're affraid of it, but because you wouldn't know what to do with it if you had it. "
asciilifeform: 'They're sucking the blood out of the fiction, at 3$ an hour, and there wasn't enough fiction to go around to begin with. And since you are paying today for tomorrow's fiction, darn straight you want your rightful slice of it. '
mircea_popescu: can't see why not. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-02-03 17:24 diana_coman: trinque, it's possibly best to run your latest script and then hand over everything you need, fresh and clear? not a big issue otherwise to rummage and pack that dir but I don't even recall if I did not touch it further after that point when I sent the genesis patch so I'd rather not introduce artefacts
asciilifeform: i haven't yet encountered a version with 'derive' in the rom out of the box, but entirely possib that they sold one
mircea_popescu: hp made this tiny, "can't decide if laptop or pocket calculartor" item\
mircea_popescu: it didn't even have paranthesises!
mircea_popescu: the annoying part is, i hated it so much i don't even have any distinct memory sufficient to identify wtf it even was.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-04#1892247 << see how comms trip you up ? had you ~said~ this much i'd have said very different things, because i entirely don't see the problem with a cl blogotron. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: "we'd much rather not all be jack keefe, and you know what ? if we never ever mention it it's just as good as if we actually weren't. also, don't say king coon, nigger or cripple."
mircea_popescu: shakespeare isn't even the major problem ; the major problem are the english greats pantsuit ~deliberately~ ain't talking about, because very much http://trilema.com/2014/in-which-you-become-grain/ sorta reasons
asciilifeform: yea won't dispute that oughta back up the shakespear etc
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform can't be helped, you write in english.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: apparently gutenberg is rsync'able ( https://archive.is/PWeNA ) , tho i haven't tried
asciilifeform: 'To sane humans, such a character is bewildering, but let's not forget an important piece of the puzzle. Jim Blow isn't there for sane humans. He's there for a very specific category of defective human minds. They call themselves "hackers" or something like that, and the rest of the world calls them nerds. ' << a++ imho
diana_coman: it would be great to follow up all points/threads started in earlier updates really so they don't get lost
mircea_popescu: eh whatever it was. the idea being that some dude hearing the coxcomb going "play up" and then on the nile the same "play up" and heigh-ho ain't britain great for being dumb. something like that anyway.
BingoBoingo: Home runs didn't much happen until after the world series was sold and derp came in to "fix" the game
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo this isn't so, had major hold on kids.
BingoBoingo: There wasn't much money or much run scoring. "Deadball era" is the term that was applied after the fact
mircea_popescu: it wasn't very much money at the time. at least not looking at it from an anachronistic perspective and from within a society where athleticism is the only nobility left.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> and besides, I won't sign with Detroit for no less than $5000 at most. << Seriously, several kilograms of silver wasn't good enough for 8.5 months of work
mircea_popescu: and besides, I won't sign with Detroit for no less than $5000 at most.
mircea_popescu: gotta be possible! cuz when a man sets his mind to it, aint not anything in the world he can't pretty well fix./ or at least not want to fix anymore.
mircea_popescu: (pro tip : the odds of left handed kid born in a house where live two adult males, the one which isn't you being also left handed, being yours are perhaps under 0.1%)
a111: Logged on 2019-01-31 00:46 mircea_popescu: Jan 30 18:30:38 <mircea_popescu> and since i mentioned vice-versa again, some #haremleaks : hanbot asked me if i think the only reason anstey made paul a widower was so he didn't have to confront his son fucking his wife during that week.
mircea_popescu: because these exact same white socks are gonna sell the world series, aren't they.
mircea_popescu: and THEN, because no, this doesn't fucking end, does it, THEN you also know the future.
mircea_popescu: anyways. certainly provides well needed perspective for all sorts of local-flavour insanities. "the success and importance" of "social media", aka "for the first time ever the circumstance that we have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to say to each other doesn't seem as much of an impediment anymore!"
mircea_popescu: t I ain't afraid of no pitcher and what is more if you get me a couple of runs I'll beat him."
mircea_popescu: and of course, all sort of forgotten lulz, like say "I says I feel O.K. and I ain't afraid to pitch against Johnson and I ain't afraid to hit against him neither. Then Weaver says Have you ever saw him work? Yes, I says, I seen him in Chi. Then Weaver says Well if you have saw him work and ain't afraid to hit against him I'll bet you would go down to Wall Street and holler Hurrah for Roosevelt. I says No I wouldn't do that bu
mircea_popescu: you're thinking hm... this is kinda out of character. but you don't realise the fucking paramecium ~simply imported some dna from the woman~.
mircea_popescu: l have to stand it and I guess I won't starv to death for no $10 a month because I am going to get $2800 next year besides the city serious money and maybe we will get into the World Serious too. I know we will if Callahan will pitch me every 3d day like I wanted him to last season. But if you had of approached the old man in a different way maybe you could of fixed it up. I wish you would try it again Al if it is not no trou
mircea_popescu: "I don't think the old man give me no square deal on that lease but if he wants to stick me all right. I am grateful to you Al for trying to fix it up but maybe you could of did better if you had of went at it in a different way. I am not finding no fault with my old pal though. Don't think that. When I have a pal I am the man to stick to him threw thick and thin. If the old man is going to hold me to that lease I guess I wil
BingoBoingo: Leads to: "Then he says I am not sure you are going to get anything. I says What do you mean? And he says I have gave you a very fare contract and if you don't want to live up to it that is your own business."
BingoBoingo: "She says Well if you will go and talk the right way to Comiskey I believe he will give you $3000 but you must be sure you go at it the right way and don't go and ball it all up. Well we argude about it a while because I don't want to hold nobody up Al but finally I says I would. It would not be holding nobody up anyway because I am worth $3000 to the club if I am worth a nichol."
mircea_popescu: as far as i know [and what i don't know in this town ain't worth knowing], the last "thai princes" in existence sported armenian moustaches, went about in confiscated warsaw pact uniforms and had names ending in that ridiculous accented c.
mircea_popescu: and THAT wasn't really worth filming either.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i couldn't care less. say what you will of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-31#1891093 it still has thai prince's bday party beat ☝︎
a111: 2018-09-04 <cazalla> not much i can say you haven't experienced or don't already know having done it i guess
diana_coman: trinque, it's possibly best to run your latest script and then hand over everything you need, fresh and clear? not a big issue otherwise to rummage and pack that dir but I don't even recall if I did not touch it further after that point when I sent the genesis patch so I'd rather not introduce artefacts ☟︎
trinque: it doesn't seem to have happened anywhere else in your genesis either
trinque: the paths from your genesis don't even look like real paths; they look like two paths mangled together
asciilifeform: i concede that i have ~not~ tried winblowz (which incidentally ~does~ permit static link), couldn't think of any reason to, to date
mircea_popescu: doesn't it strike ytou as way the fuck easier to lop some bits of fabric off a hip, than some heads off ?
mircea_popescu: same exact fucking reason i think very little of the shah of brunei. thre's a word for the man who can't keep his household in line, and that word is "boy"
mircea_popescu: (this is engineered to count as an insult, because supposedly, or at least by the lights of deeply inept femtards a la virgina woolfe, this guy "hated women" because wasn't sufficiently something or the other ; and so proposing that women'd benefit off his book is like, totally, oh noes.)
mircea_popescu: didn't seem controversial to me either ; but still, now it's also published.
mircea_popescu: this is much cheaper to maintain, code-wise, than some attempt at an otherwise useless "infinity" ; and in the situation where software's not really expected to work "by itself", ie, will always have someone in charge, the cost of "well, if situations change, alter the value and recompile" doesn't seem an overwhelming cost.
mircea_popescu: this is of general interest as i don't expect eulora to be the last republican item with threads in it.
mircea_popescu: in any case, besides this distinction, i don't see any way to meaningfully divide people at the scale here contemplated.
asciilifeform: didn't. instead conquered ~all of asia, captured the iron, molybdenum, petro, whole fucking periodic table that dun grow in jp, and nearly put an end to the brit pantsuit zombie, by pretty close score
mircea_popescu: didn't ?
mircea_popescu: but now, short men with pig noses that can't use maps.