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asciilifeform: which is why mine reads witness as param rather than directly from rng
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 21:13 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-11#1886376 << with some caveats as to how "unrelated" (in the m-r sense of the term) those candidates must be, as it's entirely possible to generate an infinite set of lying witnesses for any composite number.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if ddos, then nao as good time as any, it hasn't afaik yet been tested, how said pipe behaves under ddos.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: soon as this is done, i'ma graph the machine temps/voltages.
mircea_popescu: and bad ssd is unlikely to hit ~specifically one~ of multiple instances, as well as it's unlikely to occur while drive has free spare sectors to map to, and besides it'd be a first. drive's fine what.
mod6: My one node I've got now, is still on that bad hardware as I haven't found a new home for it yet. Sometimes, if I just let it "figure itself out", it'll return eventually and be fine. I agree though, would be nice to get to a root cause of this by some form of testing. Hard to mimic the state, regardless.
BingoBoingo: Please deliver instructions in #pizarro as I don't know how much log troubleshooting is going to generate
mircea_popescu: ie, pretty much ended as a going concern.
shinohai: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886522 <<< Thanx, also will report to diana_coman if configuring out bullet has any negative consequences, so far everything renders correctly as far as I can tell. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and there it goes : happily eats ctrl-c, OF COURSE, cuz why the fuck have any sort of notion of human priviledge or anything, terminal has its own mind, right. but if sigkilled dies peacibly and then restarts as if nothing had happened.
mircea_popescu: in other arcana : i have here a copy of trb that has died a mysterious death on dec 31st. the process itself hasn't returned, ps aux lists it as expected, however the last time it touched any files was two weeks ago, nor does a call to getinfo ever return. ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i happen to agree with the fellow, "partial order" (as in, the term of art) is specifically why not actually breaking anything.
BingoBoingo: relationship is also the largest of our recurring fiat denominated expenses. Sitting here my thinking latched onto present cash flow situation as the datacenter's goodwill isn't very liquid.
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> it strikes me as the height of strange that the balance sheet seems to paint a rosy picture whereas management communication is bleak and dour. these shouldn't contradict so, which is it ? << The cash flow situation concerns me. Our fiat denominated holdings have appreciated. As you assessed earlier our primary asset is a healthy customer relationship with the (very rare) independent datacenter. Maintaining that
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: ty, i'ma instrument the thing for realtime logging soon as i wake up ( about to turn in, and would rather not break things when half awake )
mircea_popescu: it strikes me as the height of strange that the balance sheet seems to paint a rosy picture whereas management communication is bleak and dour. these shouldn't contradict so, which is it ?
mircea_popescu: understand there's no such thing as "a liver". either it's the whole enchilada, liver, stomach, bone, muscles, skin, all the organs -- or else nothing at all.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo re ". Even when I manage a piece of evangelical Republican writing well received by the targeted community as measured by 'likes'... the reception warm reception is fuctionally empty." << the problem with this is the single-flower-spring issue. if you wish t go this route your measurements are in the dozens of accounts, spitting forth 100s of daily posts supporting each other across the whole "niche".
mircea_popescu: because i can see why someone'd go, "eh, whatever, thirty heathens to the cent, i don't even mind paying". as per ye even older http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-21#1026639 ☝︎
asciilifeform: currently he still stands as a 50% owner.
mircea_popescu: trinque i'm not that in touch, but iirc it was a good deal as symmetric.
BingoBoingo: Even if I frame it as "we aren't utilizing the whole pipe", they are going to smell blood
trinque: "capacity will temporarily be X while BingoBoingo Ys, this gives T time left to P. customers will meanwhile accumulate S shares per billing cycle of diminished capacity" as a rough model of what I'm talking about.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 18:57 BingoBoingo: Well the numbers as of last January http://bingology.net/2018/01/18/datacenter-costs/
mircea_popescu: "my five year plan for pizarro is that by the time we're done with the first three it'll not be physically possible to do such a thing as 'host a website' anywhere else."\
mircea_popescu: and i hear he has a wife to support, as well.
trinque: since I still host everything important elsewhere, not as much as if I thought it'd be around.
diana_coman: myeah, that "into the black in two months" seems to me weird here; the trouble is not even "in two months" but at all; because it has been way more than 2 months and if it keeps going as is, I doubt 10 months would make a difference
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 18:53 BingoBoingo: trinque: I don't have concrete plans. The major part of the DC cost is pipe rather than rack. Renegotiating for less pipe with the datacenter would change the costs we are basing our colocation price off of as well.
BingoBoingo: links earlier mentioned. At present there is one ongoing conversation as a result of this.
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, but how *many* accounts did you message out of how many in the db, over what time, what filter(s) did you use and with what results? << The way I've been walking by hand involves looking at the users online list most forums helpfully still offer and going from there. Recently I've taken to looking for "I got banned from X turdservice" threads and blogs then posting targeted copy as demonstrated in one of the
BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Well for the most part, I have a bank account. We've been doing the fiat auctions, and one of the localbitcoins traders has grown his ablity to handle larger conversions as he's gone full time working his bicycle based currency exchange. So far this can meet our near term needs.
diana_coman: yes! I was basically waiting for something like that as a minimum re promised writeup review
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> how do you see that working before pizarro starves? << I worry. The more I think about the marketing and trying to make a plan for marketing I worry. I am in the unhappy position of being out of my depth on the marketing problem, repeating my concerns about my lack of marketing prowess, trying to apply advice as I can while juggling other concerns, and not getting any feedback on incentives that can bring other people in
mircea_popescu: but in other keks, this could be taken as a "shutdown" a la republique.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-12 01:00 asciilifeform: wtf re '49 Year Old' tho! i'd naively think 'may as well hang for a sheep as for a lamb'...
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 16:45 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884603 << BingoBoingo i'd ~really~ like to hear what is current plan for gettin' heathen custom, so as to finally get the hell out of the red. asciilifeform dun have a massive treasure chest that can run pizarro 'on battery' 4evah (hopefully not surprising, this)
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-11#1886376 << with some caveats as to how "unrelated" (in the m-r sense of the term) those candidates must be, as it's entirely possible to generate an infinite set of lying witnesses for any composite number. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-11#1886328 << absolutely not ; as a philosophical matter this is akin to asking for "the machine to extend classes implicitly" aka both dwim & http://btcbase.org/log/2015-03-06#1043874 rolled into one. ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-11#1886306 << returning gcd as 0 is an error message by itself, the usual set is [1,inf) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't know that there's anything wrong with returning gcd of 0,0 as 0. in my abstract mental model wherein 1 is a divisor of all numbers, gcd 0,0 =1, and furthermore 0 can never be a divisor of anything ; but this purely set-driven problem is inconsequential in boole's alt-world afaak.
mod6: Also, it seems that my mega-diff in the blog somehow slightly-skews the justification to the right by a few characters. I'll try to remedy that. In the mean time, if people want to just read the raw text post instead, I've made that available here as well: http://www.mod6.net/2019/January/13/keccak_regrind_noUTF8.txt
mod6: http://blog.mod6.net/?p=26 << Here's my TRB Keccak Regrind blog post. I have a tarball linked very near the bottom that contains my reground trb keccak vtree, as well as seals for each. These are posted so one may test with these (I need the help!).
BingoBoingo: Well the numbers as of last January http://bingology.net/2018/01/18/datacenter-costs/ ☟︎
BingoBoingo: trinque: I don't have concrete plans. The major part of the DC cost is pipe rather than rack. Renegotiating for less pipe with the datacenter would change the costs we are basing our colocation price off of as well. ☟︎
trinque: BingoBoingo: in reading your latest, I'm curious what fallback plans you have in between pizarro as is today and pizarro shuttered.
mod6: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886456 << Thanks for reading & feedback diana_coman! I'm working to port over the old-ones as I can. I'll find a temporary solution in the mean time. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i'd rather not grandfather the current bitcoin wallet approach, time-tested as it might be. but this problem will recur (no later than "wut do wallet" in any case). so...
mircea_popescu: ad interim the draft is, that the client stores all the keys (rsa, serpent, whatever) one per line, the rsa ones in republican format, the rest unspecified as of yet, in a file called keys.tmsr encrypted by the rsa key of the client.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-05 14:30 mircea_popescu: spyked is evidently trying, hence feedbot, but evidently having trouble reconciling saeculum, which i'm going to let stand as such on the grounds that he's new -- even though experience shows that as a dubious idea [for all the eg one could possibly need witness how asciilifeform 's still in the swamp, so many years later].
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-05#1884617 <-- ftr, I agree 100% with this assessment. the last 4 months (at least) of my life have been a rollercoaster, and I'm just beginning to settle down into an arrangement where I can set goals without getting preempted at every corner. my current goal is to have a schedule posted by the end of the month, in the same style as http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2735 , ☝︎
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886446 -> this made me jump at first to check on S.MG's servers with Pizarro; BingoBoingo please make those announcements clear from the start as to what services precisely are/have been affected ☝︎
asciilifeform: wtf re '49 Year Old' tho! i'd naively think 'may as well hang for a sheep as for a lamb'... ☟︎
asciilifeform: diana_coman: plz dun see the orig statement as ' asciilifeform presumes that diana_coman is dummkopf and problem is trivial, asciilifeform can do it with 1 hand '. i simply dun like to see people sitting stuck, is all.
asciilifeform: 'peh' is intended as a working, weaponized demonstration of the 'specificity of diddling' principle. (but perhaps this was obvious to errybody.)
asciilifeform: i'ma include a few obvious approaches as example tapes, but it is NOT the intention that anyone use'em as-found.
asciilifeform: a 'graduate' of ffa (i.e. fella who ~read~ the thing, as it was intended to be read, and fit-in-head) will have no trouble writing his particular variant of correct prime generator for his particular type of key.
asciilifeform: ( he can use 'G' as litmus, or not use, can use 16 witnesses or 666, etc, rather than being forced into a particular scheme )
asciilifeform: per the ffa plan, 'P' command will take two numbers from the stack, a candidate integer and a witness. author of pcode tape determines how many witnesses to use, he iterates by generating witnesses and calling P repeatedly as many times as he wants
diana_coman: possibly; at the end of the day it's a choice and one can have gcd implemented one way or another, as long as the choice made is clearly stated on the tin
diana_coman: I suppose only in some silly situation such as "let's take 2 numbers from user; compute gcd and then proceed to divide and print results"
asciilifeform: i sat down last night and tried to conceive a 'div0'-style situation where you 'bought own cross' as result of permitting gcd(0,0) to execute. but did not find one.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: near as i can tell, nobody ever does tho
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/01/us-profesional-organization-for-psychologists-condemns-masculinity-as-harmful/ << Qntra -- US Profesional Organization For Psychologists Condemns Masculinity As Harmful
diana_coman: client did build previously on gentoo so yes, I'd expect it builds on cuntoo as well really
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/01/as-yellow-jackets-continue-undermining-macron-despot-to-sign-treaty-futher-eroding-separation-between-france-and-germany/ << Qntra -- As Yellow Jackets Continue Undermining Macron, Despot To Sign Treaty Futher Eroding Separation Between France And Germany
asciilifeform: ( it dun use any osisms other than the cmdline args, which can be hardcoded for test runs; as for i/o, can be rs232, and guesswat, 'os' )
billymg: i also noticed that the selection-magic.txt (which is to be renamed to selection-magic.php) ( http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/selection-magic.txt ) contains comments at the top marked with // that are not parsed as comments because they're outside the <script> block
mircea_popescu: because hey, this is optional now, yossik is at liberty to redress his stupidity or not as he well pleases, there's no obligation my intellectual superiority creates for him or anything.
diana_coman: in the same vein of interesting as http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-09#1886113 ☝︎
diana_coman: myeah, that's part of the thing: as it is, it is at least tested that people managed to compile the whole thing on different platforms
a111: Logged on 2019-01-09 17:06 mircea_popescu: "But the type conversion rules for pointers are not so easily duped; there are no "classwide pointers" (thought perhaps life would be different if there were!). " << motherfucker on a stick, i want "classwide pointers" ie, "this door ambiguously links to any of the mcdonalds not any specific one" as i want to wake up to being assfucked by chtulhu.
asciilifeform: the world of the folx who wrote ada for moneys in the saeculum, is not , as i gather, a happy place. sorta why asciilifeform had to learn buncha things from 1st principles, rather than by reading their ugh
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta why i suspect 'greybeard'. prolly he also had a 200kloc (or 2e6...) that had to be dealt with as-is, pointerola & all.
mircea_popescu: "But the type conversion rules for pointers are not so easily duped; there are no "classwide pointers" (thought perhaps life would be different if there were!). " << motherfucker on a stick, i want "classwide pointers" ie, "this door ambiguously links to any of the mcdonalds not any specific one" as i want to wake up to being assfucked by chtulhu. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-11-20 23:38 asciilifeform: typical, http://adagin.blogspot.com/2013/12/ada-2005-access-types-part-i.html , lively : type Hooker_Array is array (Positive range <>) of Hooker_Class_Ptr; procedure Violate_Bodies (x : Hooker_Array); ... 'We want to track all our victims, presumably in some sort of set or container, so that we might disinter them later as needed. Similarly, we might also want to do strange, awful things with the dead bodies of the hookers.'
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/01/lone-university-employed-sokal-squared-author-faces-sanctions-as-apparently-academic-journal-editors-are-uninformed-human-research-subjects-and-not-human-spam-filters/ << Qntra -- Lone University Employed 'Sokal Squared' Author Faces Sanctions As Apparently Academic Journal Editors Are 'Uninformed Human Research Subjects' And Not Human Spam Filters
diana_coman: i.e. have it as a procedure, exposed and accessible from cpp
diana_coman: as it is specific to ada, a non-ada main has no idea (nor does it care) about it and therefore won't do it automatically; the only way to have it done is to call explicitly the "init" procedure for the Ada unit that is to be used; and the only way to *have* such an init procedure seems to be the standalone lib thing
diana_coman: re ada elaboration since apparently it's not summarised in the logs as such: it's basically the code that runs *before* the main program starts and what it does is broadly initializing variables that the main program may expect to be able to access (e.g. "global" or in libs that are used) and running the "main" code (aka between begin and end of a package as opposed to that in procedures/functions) from units that are used
diana_coman: it has a donkey-horse as far as I can tell: a dynamic lib does not include all the code it requires so you'll need to further link /distribute stuff
phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-09#1886041 << not a bug anymore (last year it was printed as a warning with no effects on the patch, effectively forcing newline always. i then adjusted vdiff to put correct "\ No newline.." directive, while vpatch knows to omit final newline when that directive is present) ☝︎
lobbes: trinque: I agree that I could use a more substantive grasp on the script as a whole (and will indeed study moar), however I want to say I'm at least understanding the bit in "create_user.sh" where it calls useradd and passwd, and then adds the $USER to etc/sudoers. I'm just missing -why- the user/password I set through useradd/passwd wasn't working when trying to login. Probably something elementary
a111: Logged on 2018-02-25 19:25 phf: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-02-25#1785986 << i thought that it was just a helpful warning, but upon reflection i realized that this is actually a bug. investigating it further i took a wrong direction on a diff's command line flag switch, and as it stands if you see this warning it
trinque: it's not as if the script's setting anyone's password on anything; it's just calling the util that does.
asciilifeform: i'd be satisfied with gcd as initial sieve (given that i have one that dun leak anyffin) ~followed~ by m-r.
asciilifeform: ( afaik there are no integers that are divisible by small prime (such as will fit in the primorial) and fail ~any~ number of m-r shots.
asciilifeform: ( and for all i know, ro actually involved moar 'turkeydollar', as by mircea_popescu's and other accts was 'tighter ship' ) ☟︎
BingoBoingo: Well, middle class fellow constantly held up by his peers as a party elite
mircea_popescu: He formerly served on the steering committee of the Stonewall Democratic Club. He has donated "nearly $30,000" to Democratic candidates like Hillary Clinton, Ted Lieu, Pete Aguilar and Raja Krishnamoorthi as well as the Getting Things Done PAC. << dude give me a fucking break ?
mircea_popescu: "Edward Bernard Peter Buckmelter began his career as a fashion model in Europe" keks.
BingoBoingo: Anyways, first incident was dismissed after pantsuit outrage over the investigation as an attack on the old dude's lifestyle
asciilifeform: it takes ~same space as mouse, if you have a decent two-bricks-sized box
mircea_popescu: not proposing this as problems ~with the item~.
mircea_popescu: anyway, it's testament to my famous capacity of fitting in -- comes from the fact i use as main profile pic a shot hanbot took in turkey, where i was being INCREDIBLY fucking fit-in.
Mocky: so long as it doesn't have cancel button
asciilifeform: ( these are standard nao, as i understand, even in flyshit ohio )
asciilifeform: possibly the 1 interesting item in the exhibit, was approx as long as i am tall
asciilifeform: ( phunphakt -- in ye olde su, handcuff was uncommon, outside of where it was used as an instrument of 'question of the third degree', in a form of old-school 'strappado' . )
mircea_popescu: now then : all these fantasies, "i'll worship so purely i'll never die", "i'll get a paycheck so huge i won't have to go on dates anymore", "i'll be that kurchatov" rely on something specific : there's gotta be a stalin. there's no stalin of long living, nor is there a stalin of rooseveltian socialism -- the thing's built ~specifically~ (and ~purposefully~, deliberately) as a "stalinism without any stalin".