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mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://www.samueljohnson.com/apocryph.html#20 << check it out btw.
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1116068 << see the lisp machine etc. ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1116069 << b/c it doesn't belong in a blog post. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 17:05:19; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115613 << dude srsly. GET A BLOG ALREADY.
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1116046 << http://gabriel-laddel.github.io ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 15:00:28; mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115422 << this, i will point out, is in no way related to any inherent property of either (unless you mean lisp is inherently going to fail), but simply a function of context. had the linux kernel been implemented in sclb, and had the past 20 years been spent with scbl being "the cool language", you'd be having zhe pronouns and assorted idiocy to the tu
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1115889 << and I will point out that you're wrong. The simplicity of lisp vs. C is absolutely due to the inherrent properties of the respective artifacts. Seriously, MMM vs GC, parsing vs. not, no bignums vs. numerics - "abstractions push upward" (TM). ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 14:41:31; mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel "Why isn't there grammer/spellchecking for my comments? " << this i can readily answer. because I am what's called "a creator of language", which is to say one of those people who, through his usage, ENACTS the rules all amateur users of language MUST follow, as a mark of their linguistic inferiority. like fucking shakespeare.
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1115871 << If the "rules" of human language are formalized it becomes much easier to break them in interesting ways. One could use the output of a shannonizer to inform word choice for his story, enforcing that each word is followed by one of the top 10 least likely words in the whole of the language up to this point. I suspect that such a tale would be great fun to re ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1115836 << lol ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 14:29:15; mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel "why are the holes not marked or filled?" << ftr this is not what i was contemplating. what I was contemplating is, why the fuck don't defaults pop up. bring back the fucking paperclip, put it the ONE place where it makes fucking sense. "hey john, I see you changed FuckOff() from bool to int. This function is called 82 places in 22 files. Would you like me to a) check all places where
gabriel_laddel: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=29-04-2015#1115832 << We're discussing the same thing. If the program has "marked" all instances of $WHATEVER I can trivally add "Would you like me to a) check all places where it's called and report what I can figure out about the context ? b) iterate you through all locations ? c) change it back ? d) run a trace see what happens ?" on top of it. ☝︎
decimation: if you want something that can serve static pages https://www.unix4lyfe.org/darkhttpd/ < fits in head
decimation: asciilifeform: more on ada: http://www.adacore.com/academia/universities/ < the list of us universities has a conspicuous absence of 'popular' tech schools
pete_dushenski: http://www.blockchainsummit.io << fuckin branson. derp harder, mate.
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115643 <<< from their website under "Strategic Advisors" Jackson Palmer and Brock Pierce lol ☝︎
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115874 << seems like the trilema editors should scan qntra articles too. ☝︎
pete_dushenski: "Police made at least five arrests for charges including burglary and flourishing a weapon." << flourishing! how poetic.
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115268 << fuck stltoday and their wapo-esque survey paywall. ☝︎
assbot: Logged on 29-04-2015 03:45:05; decimation: lol http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-twitter-earns-20150429-story.html < "The company lost $162.4 million, compared with a loss of $132.4 million in the year-earlier quarter. Revenue jumped to $435.9 million from $250.5 million, but still fell far short of analysts' expectations of $463 million."
pete_dushenski: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115259 << i don't want to say i had anything to do with this, but... ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://www.dailydot.com/lifestyle/fetlife-bdsm-meat-list-consent/ << how to write about mp without linking trilema.
mircea_popescu: https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/2785 << sometimes it fixes itself :D ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ascii_field Click here (big!) << could be replaced with Click here (28588 digits) ?
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115645 << lmao ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115624 << prolly should go with frank the ditch ☝︎
mircea_popescu: " When the "people" of earth finally get the message that brainpower is the limiting regent in life they'll soon start to change their tune - or find themselves living in a ~leper colony/africa." << this is not how things work
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115613 << dude srsly. GET A BLOG ALREADY. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://41.media.tumblr.com/30197ce3b8a2aa706dd3913040a1c838/tumblr_n9lah9zqCj1sfkfqio1_1280.jpg << the best thing in unix is the pipe.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115605 << because you don't have a blog. get a blog. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115595 << is your complaint the lack of koolaid in this place ?! ☝︎
mod6: <+jurov> the libnss was done as binary plugin to glibc << so there is no possible way to just build glibc by hand and not include libnss? or there are basically so many things that use libnss that even if you did, stuff wouldn't work anyway?
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> ~whether one even uses libnss or not~! << so even if we didn't even call "whatsMyIP()" or w/e it is, this would still be a dingleberry attached to glibc.
mod6: <+ascii_field> the patch, note, did not remove all (there is a 'what is my ip' thing in there ) << ah, i recall. ok and this is what initiated the conversation about SHA256 addy's as opposd to dotted quads right?
mod6: http://thebitcoin.foundation/ml/btc-dev/2015-February/000040.html << this?
BingoBoingo: "The hardest part was often reaching Fernández and Castiglione. “I had to call Brenda four times today,” she said with a smile." << lol
mats: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/03/magazine/how-bitcoin-is-disrupting-argentinas-economy.html << lol
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115501 << this distinction only exists as a manifestation of the speaker's cluelessness, otherwise military logic is perfectly logical. ☝︎
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> [00:54] how the everliving fuck is cpanel used with anything other than php/static wwwtron << fwiw asciilifeform i went through a very similar saga on a very similar popescuian box. i just thought that "this was how things were supposed to be" and labored in silence.
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> [13:23] that's prolly put i nthere special for shooting down ben_vulpes dating attempts in kindergarten. << i dun get it
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform load average: 0.00, 0.01, 0.01 << what sort of great moment is this!
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> ... and had the past 20 years been spent with scbl being "the cool language", you'd be having zhe pronouns and assorted idiocy to the tune of > 10 mn lines << the whole 'k00l d00dz' phenomenon begins from broken systems, though there is a feedback loop
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> it has nothing to check against, i gotta do it by hand. << you can edit the dict you know
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115422 << this, i will point out, is in no way related to any inherent property of either (unless you mean lisp is inherently going to fail), but simply a function of context. had the linux kernel been implemented in sclb, and had the past 20 years been spent with scbl being "the cool language", you'd be having zhe pronouns and assorted idiocy to the tune of > 10 mn lines ☝︎☟︎
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> the computer's job is NOT to be the fucking master, and make its own decisions a la windows. the computer's job is NOT to be a solipsistic retarded geek and just do its own thing like anal children do ... the computer's job is to be a most humbly abject slave, perpetually and consumatedly on its knees following you around, with the dedication and unwavering insistence no dog can summon << obligatory http://ww
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115401 < bwahahaha ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115395 << fancy that! and i spent eight hours massaging apache and varnish into wortking together, only to discover that about 10% of the time, IP fields were reliably replaced with random data form the session. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115386 << dawg, go make a web server i can use, who's keeping you!!11 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel "Why isn't there grammer/spellchecking for my comments? " << this i can readily answer. because I am what's called "a creator of language", which is to say one of those people who, through his usage, ENACTS the rules all amateur users of language MUST follow, as a mark of their linguistic inferiority. like fucking shakespeare. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel "why are the holes not marked or filled?" << ftr this is not what i was contemplating. what I was contemplating is, why the fuck don't defaults pop up. bring back the fucking paperclip, put it the ONE place where it makes fucking sense. "hey john, I see you changed FuckOff() from bool to int. This function is called 82 places in 22 files. Would you like me to a) check all places where it's called and rep ☟︎
asciilifeform: <Adlai> never trust a man with no last name << there's a fella in '80s theoretical comp sci, worked on parallel systems iirc, who was known as simply 'arvind'
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> the problem here is that we're regressing to the past (srsly, the varnish adventure is so reminiscent of "dos utilities" scene it bleeds) but with much more powerful tools and with much more societal dependency on them. << lamport's article on brokenness+helplessness leading to return to 'voodoo' methods (electronic homeopathy, sympathetic magic, all the way to prayer healing)
mircea_popescu: artifexd http://ridiculousfish.com/blog/posts/go_bloviations.html << maybe somewhat interesting.
mircea_popescu: "And, as everyone knows, the best way to get amazing results is to set arbitrary goals without any basis for believing they can be reached. So I set out to search faster than grep by thirty percent." << damned straight. it's exactly how i manage. especially those... contractually obligated, shall we say.
mircea_popescu: I confidently crow to anyone who would listen, those foolish enough to enter my office. And my girlfriend too, who's contractually obligated to pay attention to everything I say. << see, i think i know the kind of contract he's talking/dreaming about. in re http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1114812 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115372 << well, the prepared statements in a notepad / pasted later model is no good! ☝︎
mircea_popescu: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJR1UFX2GVY << lmao check out amateur hour.
mircea_popescu: gabriel_laddel: 1. A WoT host has been mentioned a few times in the logs - MP's new hosts << yeah i had sent teh guy an invite. all it takes is for him to actually show up etc.
davout: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-04-2015#1115283 <<< ugh. this whole story is such a pile of braindamage ☝︎
BingoBoingo: <trinque> sure, big bottleneck there still << Irony of ironies, bottleneck is the part of the bottle that broke such that poison exposure happened
BingoBoingo: <trinque> if I represent a grammar in SQL tables you cannot fuck it up << You want to throw a stake down on that???
gribble: Statice (Symbolics) - Symbolics Lisp Machine Museum: <http://smbx.org/statice-symbolics/>; Symbolics Assets Bought - Symbolics Lisp Machine Museum: <http://smbx.org/symbolics-assets-bought/>; Statice Flower Meaning & Symbolism | Statice Facts - Teleflora.com: <http://www.teleflora.com/about-flowers/statice.asp>
gabriel_laddel: "how in lips could you take the ast of a view against one table" << This ends up being just hacking at sexprs with the full language at your disposal.
trinque: "I can't query over all commits" << man I yell about wanting to query the state of everything constantly
gabriel_laddel: 8. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=27-04-2015#1113452 << Masamune is based on funtoo, which is gentoo without SystemD. ☝︎
Adlai: Why must I manually declare my local variables << scoping
gabriel_laddel: 7. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1113989 << When I change the argument list, rename a procedure, use an unnamed reference why are the holes not marked or filled? Why must I manually declare my local variables and functions? Can't the current top level expression be searched for occurrences then factored out on a keystroke? Why must I balance strings, whatever the level of nesting or escaping? Can th ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: 5. <mircea_popescu> kinda why i'm discovering all i really like off unix these days is like... curl. grep. << http://ridiculousfish.com/blog/posts/old-age-and-treachery.html
gabriel_laddel: 4. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=28-04-2015#1114416 << Auotools is 150k LoC. Might as well just require SBCL at that point. ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: 3. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-04-2015#1105913 << http://youtu.be/fJR1UFX2GVY?t=4m15s2 ☝︎
gabriel_laddel: 2. http://log.bitcoin-assets.com//?date=28-04-2015#1114502 << Vocabulary note: code and data reduce to "information". ☝︎
mircea_popescu: https://getfedora.org/static/0608B895.txt << check it out, epel signs
danielpbarron: would be interesting to learn how it was censored << lots of people all clicking "this account is offensive"
danielpbarron: original is long vanished << today vanished
decimation: lol http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-twitter-earns-20150429-story.html < "The company lost $162.4 million, compared with a loss of $132.4 million in the year-earlier quarter. Revenue jumped to $435.9 million from $250.5 million, but still fell far short of analysts' expectations of $463 million." ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: Tumblr dot TXT << wtf even was that
decimation: https://www.varnish-cache.org/docs/trunk/phk/ssl_again.html < against 'ssl everywhere' < "With SSL Everywhere, these actors get much more privacy to invade the privacy of every human being with an internet connection, because it takes a lot more skill to look into a SSL connection than a plaintext HTTP connection."
TomServo: +asciilifeform | since quitting bsd ('04) << I'd love to hear more about this. Or why the preference for linux?
mircea_popescu: http://www.gotw.ca/publications/concurrency-ddj.htm << check it out, apparently moore law stopped a decade ago. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://www.nginxcp.com/installation-instruction/ << there, random spamsite has nginx-for-cpanel prepackaged.
assbot: Logged on 05-02-2015 01:42:33; decimation: then I heard this podcast: http://www.econtalk.org/archives/2013/02/glenn_reynolds.html << "Guest: It's funny--one of my friends, who has been a long-term, upper level bureaucrat in Washington said to me his favorite phenomenon to see is these people coming through these usually politically-appointed jobs and, he says: They think everybody loves them. And then they leave the job and they realize that eve
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> 'What's a manager to do with a heap of stuff that isn't managed and doesn't wish to be?' 'Burn it ?' (from mircea_popescu's site) << pure gold << This is how I've been getting exercise these past couple weeks. Shovel and glyphosate + troclopyr... Actual fire comes later
asciilifeform: 'What's a manager to do with a heap of stuff that isn't managed and doesn't wish to be?' 'Burn it ?' (from mircea_popescu's site) << pure gold
mircea_popescu: "I tried to take the conversation out of feelings and into logic by claiming that" << roosh is a fucktard srsly.
pete_dushenski: "Orioles will play Wednesday's game vs White Sox with NO audience in the stands." << heh. one for BingoBoingo.
mircea_popescu: <mircea_popescu> move cpanel's apache to a diff port, and allocate 80 to yours. <
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> you can just have your python run off cron << how both will restart synchronized ?
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> i am still awaiting your gentoo canonical << not even objecting to the linux flavour of that box, but to the cpanel idiocy
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1114626 << the thing yarvin was building leaky submarines out of ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1114480 << recommending shit to me is not necessarily -ev, especially if it works. i have an elephantine memory. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1114418 << sorry bout that. was trying to improve things. went about as well as you'd expect. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: ascii_field: i'd be open to a purely gnumake-based thing << this before make starts building static or only after ? :D
mircea_popescu: ascii_field: trinque: and if any of you produce a 100kB patch, and i barf on general principle << there is a problem here. the code as it is is pretty long. just a simple "remove most of it" will be in the kbs.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1114312 << it'd be nice if something got compiled before i die. ☝︎
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform welcopme to linux world alfie << wtf linux world is this. i must've been living in a parallel one since quitting bsd ('04)
asciilifeform: <ben_vulpes> heh who with a girl hasn't? << nor me either
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes i suspect in this sense git may be TOO easy to use << precisely this
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1114271 << nah, that's a misstatement. take the simpler case of poems. you do not need any particular microphone, varnish or anything else to know whether my poem's any good or not. ☝︎
asciilifeform: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform so it has no python ios the idea << it has python and even, apparently, the headers, but can't see'em
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-04-2015#1114262 << lawl. ☝︎