asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: afaik the only otherwise-functional culture that failed to invent proper chimneys, was east asia ( e.g. jp ) where hole-in-the-ceiling
asciilifeform: trinque: iirc ben_vulpes recently ran into the same wall
asciilifeform: ( ada params are a moar complicated matter than ffa might suggest: when reading heathen proggies you will encounter such things as 'aliased' i.e. pointerola , and related items. )
asciilifeform: i.e. writes 0 into each word of the destination.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: there is no 'constructor' in ffa . and FZ_Clear does exactly as printed on the box
asciilifeform: the troo tragedy is that idiot orcs have mostly demolished these by nao. even when asciilifeform was a boy, slipping into attics and cellars in those massive blocks of flats, found piles and piles of rubble -- from illicitly-demolished stoves, 'Just Wanted Moar Space in flat' types
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is somewhat different item. in the ru variant, the firebox is in the hallway, and the tiled item is smooth/without openings; the chimney is concealed in the wall
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: ours had statues of cherubs on top, as early 1900s bling fluorish. 1 cherub was missing his head. legend was, ro soldiers shot it for target practice, with luger.
asciilifeform: trinque: i'd much like to see a working musltronic gnat
asciilifeform: ( in ameri-cardboard-house of recent decades' vintage, it is uncommon to find fireplace )
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: here's a lul : where i live there is almost unlimited firewood (someone is always cutting down old wood, giving away) but i've no fireplace.
asciilifeform: at the very least it was why asciilifeform took as long as he did, to unearth it
asciilifeform: re 'unknown', i suspect that the stink of the landfill of usgism it lay buried in, is not entirely irrelevant
asciilifeform: ty mod6 . loox liek he found it in the end
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: esp. comedic considering the name of the item
asciilifeform: incidentally http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-17#1752302 is worth expanding on : it is impossible to implement Ada.Command_Line sanely (i.e. without using secondary stack.) the reason is that argv is a potential 'infinity' -- it contains an uncapped number of c-strings of uncapped ( as are all c-strings ) length.☝︎
asciilifeform: quite tough if yer writing proggy for unixbox.
asciilifeform: until nao i never thought of doing it
asciilifeform: ( which is what iirc diana_coman did , in one of her published routines )
asciilifeform: so from this 4hr tour of wtf, asciilifeform learns that the only way to give his ada proggies access to argc/argv, is apparently to give'em a c main() (gnat makes this trivial) where all of the c-ism happens, which then invokes the proggy proper.
asciilifeform: BUT this is apparently broken in gnat.
asciilifeform: so then the obvious answer is from the standard, which proclaims that Restrictions(....) can be made to act per-partition (i.e. on libffa , but not the calling prog)
asciilifeform stuck presently in an infuriating gnat labyrinth : turns out, a proggy that set pragma Restrictions(No_Secondary_Stack) , cannot use Ada.Command_Line ( equiv of argc/argc in c-planet ). so then asciilifeform went to make own replacement. and turns out , guesswat, no can haz, because pragma Restrictions(No_Unchecked_Conversion) -- and argv, where commandline lives, is a pointer to nonadatronic (i.e. c-style) string .☟︎
asciilifeform: in other noose, http://www.loper-os.org/?p=1913&cpage=1#comment-18418 << congrats to PeterL, the first (self-proclaimed, but there ain't gonna be any other kind, i dun run a usg-style school, 'diploma' is a matter of yer own conscience) ffa ch1 graduate .
asciilifeform sat down and tried to think of something good to say about it, 'at least it ships with compiler' then remembered that.. it doesn't, not after jobs died
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: that's possibly circa-2004, at latest, thinking. today it dun look so hot even from outside, to naked eye. 'update and MUST REBOOT NAO' popups, a la microshit, crashes, even shitware beginning to bloom, whole orchestra, 'regression to mean'
asciilifeform: this particular problem will go away when phf bakes his new-type vdifftron . but until then it will prolly recur.
asciilifeform: a disney deathhose 9000, for all i know.
asciilifeform: meanwhile in world of cokemachine, https://archive.is/ooxkA >> new jersey , 'Louis Meza, 35, lured his pal into a minivan, where a gunman pointed a pistol at the victim and demanded his 24-word passphrase on Nov. 4, authorities said. The code was given to Meza, a cryptocurrency investor, and allowed him access to the victim's Ether wallet.'
asciilifeform: but asciilifeform can't muster the givingashit to investigate in detail.
asciilifeform: they also baked in some scheme whereby you have to, apparently, nuke yer btc to get their shitcoin
asciilifeform: em' while '70% will be used as collateral, to back the issuance of digital currencies pegged to fiat currencies'
asciilifeform: meanwhile, in dept of entomology, https://archive.is/Mli5z << a dekulakization-flavoured phorqcoin , 'Active bitcoin wallets will receive UBTC at a rate of 1:1, and inactive wallet funds will go toward supporting other high quality blockchains or other projects in the ecosystem' . 'active' appears to mean 'moved in last month'. and, bonus, '30% ... ... will be used to support at least 10 other projects in the crypto-currency eco-syst
