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mircea_popescu: yeah, the result is not worthless.
<< i mean, the result of this convo, re code watermarking, even if notperfect is still not worthless.
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes: y'can't, i know.
<< oh I wouldn't say that.
gabriel_laddel: dly) that IP would take the form of gpg signatures on "i will not send this code around to anyone else", unenforceable just like the rest of the gpg contracts
<< Correct.
gabriel_laddel: ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes in particular it's unclear to me how wise the "licenses" angle is for a serenissima derivative. while i declined to anull IP when diametric asked earlier, i am very very far from any sort of belief that the current model of that stack of stupidity has any sort of hope for survival.
<< i figured (perhaps stupi
☟︎ gabriel_laddel: trinque: what I'd do is try to land a client that gives no shits about masamune, but needs something it can do
<< I plan on approaching both. But yes, to restrict oneself to those who Lisp is braindamaged - people who know nothing about computer programming notice when software works well and will happily pay for something that doesn't break, get h
gabriel_laddel: trinque: but come on, gimme a sandboxed lisp-ish thing, let it grab text over sockets, draw pretty pictures on a rectangle, done
<< hehe yep.
gabriel_laddel: trinque: WIP, no shame in that
<< You followed the install guide or just (ql:quickload 'masamune)'d it?
mircea_popescu:
<mats> how is it possible this has escaped audit all this time
<< welcome to the wunderbar world of FOSS, aka a chunk of raw meat in the sun, festering with a million grub eyes
mircea_popescu:
<mats> i'm not caught up on logs but someone else noticed this right
<< not publicly.
mats: 16:20:27
<+mircea_popescu> how goes mats ?
<< i'm taking a two week vacation so it'll be on hold for a bit
trinque: "The contract was signed between Mr. Ver and “OKCoin”, failing to detail the legal entity with which Mr. Ver entered into a contractual agreement with."
<< hilarious
trinque: "The Loper OS Project aims to remake computing. I am aware that others have tried and failed. Laughing? The job is not nearly as difficult as it sounds."
<< woah, there was an optimistic alf
trinque: ben_vulpes | BigCorp wants training software, is willing to pay for the professional services
<< this may work if the service is training, not masamune
ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> no fucking way am i adding 50 lines of code to deal with chrome's speshul.
<< WELCOME, BROTHER
mircea_popescu: "clearly, you breahed the contract" "did not"
< unresolvable dispute
Adlai: "phuctor's P"
<< you mean Π(∀n) ?
ben_vulpes:
<mircea_popescu> ben_vulpes in particular it's unclear to me how wise the "licenses" angle is for a serenissima derivative. while i declined to anull IP when diametric asked earlier, i am very very far from any sort of belief that the current model of that stack of stupidity has any sort of hope for survival.
<< i figured (perhaps stupidly) that IP would take the form of gpg signatures on "i will not
trinque: gabriel_laddel | trinque: guy's never sold a thing in his life
<< lol
<< ftr this is exactly why I said this
ascii_modem: rng sampling
<< shift register , external clock, optocouplers
ascii_modem: vsh
<< good but we want it in tandem with, e.g., whirlpool
Adlai: (... but this requires customized JSON parser at the receiving side, that isn't always practical.)
<< pffffff (setf json:*real-handler* (lambda (string) (parse-float string :type 'rational)))
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ben_vulpes: "use libtool"
<< so as to speak "just type libtool at the prompt"
ben_vulpes:
<jurov> and run ldconfig
<< that was it
ben_vulpes:
http://dpaste.com/1SJBXB5.txt << previous experience lead me to expect `make install` to, well, install all of the relevant things. trinque, asciilifeform: any obvious mistakes or bad thoughts on my part you'd care to rectify?
mod6:
<+kakobrekla> lol buttfuckex
<< haha
mod6:
<+jurov> mod6 sorry, that disadvantage of having staging evironment, posting dev links right and left...shoulda abolish that
<< no worries :]
davout: Naphex: "microsoft servers"
<<< ???
davout: "buttfuckex"
<<< kekobrekla
gabriel_laddel: people do buy chemicals, but they don't buy "chemistry"
<< see hyperchem lite
gabriel_laddel: ascii_field: trinque: laugh if you like, but my issue with gabriel_laddel is precisely that he is willing to compromise -too much- rather than not enough.
<< ...
gabriel_laddel: trinque: but the guy was dead set on building this whole relational coding environment for... I don't know, your grandmother, anyone, "the people"!
<< idk wtf he was smoking - sounds like you should have packaged and sold it.
gabriel_laddel: trinque: after he beats the word "waste" into your skull
<< ?
gabriel_laddel: trinque: you may at best go work for the guy who can
<< hey, lemme know when you find him - I'm still searching.
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: sorta like the only other outfit of that period, thinking machines corp.
<< unlike smbx, I've heard that their producs were never competitive, in spite of having all the brains and lisp machines they could possibly want. Related to the whole "they burned a pile of money" I've also been told they bought a firetruck to play with (wtf,
gabriel_laddel: asciilifeform: and often blamed for killing'em. but this is not entirely unlike a boozer blaming a particular bottle of rotgut 20 yrs ago for his death.
<< lol
gabriel_laddel: mircea_popescu: engineers suck at management is the long and the short of it.
<< I see no reason that this must be the case, but yes, fiat-land tends to breed engineers who are terrible with money (bill gosper, stallman, richard gabriel). It also tends to make idiot managers. IMHO much of this is because of all the inane nonsense involved in runnin
BingoBoingo:
<asciilifeform> wtf was difference b/w 'imac' and 'emacs'
<< Generally eMac was previous year's "iMac"
mircea_popescu: Hasimir: cool, will do
<< for the record, this non-readable dump of text stuff is annoying.
mircea_popescu: jurov: heh seems there will be leaks.b-a.link soon
<< nb, nb
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mircea_popescu:
<Hasimir> ah, but I'm not against guns, just against them being the prime motivator for whatever
<< not the point. earlier when guns were being discussed you said " I've never seen any religion avoid going to a bad place", which yes is a valid point. but when it comes to something you actually know/care about, suddenly it';s not nearly as appealing, as good a point as it may be.
decimation: mircea_popescu: " foss is fundamentally immune to this bs"
< not clear. however I suspect usg would not want to try to stick someone posting foss - because the courts would likely find that this kind of regulation would contradict the first amendment
BingoBoingo:
<mircea_popescu> Hasimir he doesn't mean [i take it] that someone was doing research which involved these keys. he was responding to me saying that for all we know, this is a property OF NUMBERS somehow
<< Yes
BingoBoingo:
<Hasimir> that we definitely agree on ...
<< Is punative sodomy
mircea_popescu: cazalla> i'd much rather put 2 in their chest and compost em
<< why ? you're supposed to shoot out the knees/shoulders, and why wouldn't you ?
BingoBoingo:
<trinque> a humble handgun and a rifle for sport
<< FLip that Rifle for carry and pistol for sport
BingoBoingo:
<asciilifeform> mircea_popescu: some of the 'crazy shit stick' thing is a result of u.s. folks -forbidden- to carry. the stick grows 'tumours' from being kept in safe anyway
<< Fading fast, apparently even I with paper work could carry "crazy shit stick"
BingoBoingo:
<mircea_popescu> cazalla what, you're impugning a whole city now ?
<< Not like I don't indict whole cities for eventual Bingo Justice
mod6:
<+mircea_popescu> mod6 baby what happened there ?
<< not sure. anyway, even if I add in ".com" or w/e to that link jurov posted, still nada.
decimation: lul > " one count of "operating as an airman without an airman's certificate""
< so if he did not practice and prepare for his flight, and rampantly disregarded safety, would he not have 'operated as an airman'
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=21-05-2015#1142238 << dude check out the retarded children of today. "hi would you talk to me privately seeing how i'm too autistic to engage in the proper channels, of which i have a bevy at my disposal from www to irc ?" "no. and get your head out of your ass." "oh you know what ? I AM GOING TO PUBLISH YOUR EMAIL NAO BECAUSE MY HEAD WORKS FINE INSIDE MY ASS"
☝︎ mod6:
<+jurov> mod6, ben_vulpes, everyone:
http://bluesky/ml/test/patches.html needs to manually fill data for "Released in/Based on" columns - just version strings for every patch, help appreciated
<< this is 404 for me.