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mjr_: when was that? I'm not sure if my laptop was even open...
mjr_: am I safe in assuming that everyone here thinks trying to change the bitcoin symbol is stupid and a waste of time?
mjr_: i was supposed to go hang out with him while i was in nyc
mjr_: I am trying to work out details to come to lovely timisoara
mjr_: we mostly talk via encrypted chat
mjr_: some people have said there is increased buying in china...so that could be the source of a hacking attack
mjr_: one could assume that it was meant to move the bitcoin price...
mjr_: so it is intentional by someone
mjr_: no one can be stupid enough to actually leave your server on and then put that into the production source code
mjr_: that would be a good explanation for the code appearing in their empty html page
mjr_: but, another theory is that they were hacked and held for ransom
mjr_: or whatever the number is
mjr_: i mean of a billion dollars
mjr_: i mean, i never thought their shortfall would be a 3/4 of a billion bitcoins though
mjr_: since there is a ton of unexploited value
mjr_: if they were public they would have been taken over long ago
mjr_: this is a classic case of bad management
mjr_: we hadn't gotten that far
mjr_: but i don't know anything about it
mjr_: but who had some contacts
mjr_: we were reaching out to them, with some people who i won't name
mjr_: i mean 100,000 verified accounts is worth something
mjr_: but that was before today
mjr_: i was involved with a few people trying to make that happen
mjr_: they are making it seem worse than it is, so they can bounce back upon releasing "good" news
mjr_: couple interesting theories
mjr_: that is pretty intersting
mjr_: so about the whole gox thing
mjr_: <evidence of you being wrong> well...i guess thats true <switch to subject x++>
mjr_: <disagree> you are poor/young/stupid
mjr_: it sounded like him
mjr_: lol tell me about it du
mjr_: um...we know the prices
mjr_: why, the whole problem would just go away
mjr_: what if no one complained about gox
mjr_: those statements are not internally consistent
mjr_: what i meant was "i'm not worried about mircea"
mjr_: thats why we answered you?
mjr_: yeah, you were the one who asked if he actually paid out
mjr_: or you can just read trilema
mjr_: we can hopefully bring you up to speed with enough links i guess
mjr_: you'd know all this
mjr_: if you, you know, read anything
mjr_: yeah he addressed that too
mjr_: and no one just thought it was worth bringing jup
mjr_: but maybe he DID steal 2k coins
mjr_: nah, he didn't do it, and they just accepted it quietly
mjr_: bond holders getting paid and taking losses
mjr_: which is what we were talking about
mjr_: so typically mpex bot will probaby not try go either direction, but rather move the price so it maintains a baance
mjr_: because the vast majority offset
mjr_: but that is why the derivs market can be trillions while the actual assets are not that big
mjr_: that is the goal though
mjr_: well everyone got paid
mjr_: he absorbed losses that were pretty huge
mjr_: anyone can create options
mjr_: in case you don't know
mjr_: so you stay delta neutral?
mjr_: but if you sell options on both sides of the train?
mjr_: do you remember how much the losses were last april?
mjr_: don't know though, he could have chosen those things at random
mjr_: and why you raise money in bonds to cover your trading
mjr_: and why you'd never program a bot to do so
mjr_: that is probably why you don't write options that big
mjr_: while i look for the ignore command
mjr_: i just can't deal with the stupidity any longer
mjr_: sorry i am going to ignore cerelenius now