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a111: Logged on 2018-11-26 02:46 asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf plox to snarf http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2822 into http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=ffa , ty
asciilifeform: phf: i fughet, is there a hopper in http://btcbase.org/patches that i can dump patches into, so i dun have to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-26#1874673 ? or is that still in the worx ☝︎
asciilifeform: imho a,b oughta be the standard, yes
phf: asciilifeform: i don't think so either, but it's a question of what's the format of vpatch. if the a/foo b/foo is mandatory or if you e.g. can have v2/foo v3/foo. right now the answer is "don't do it that way", which is fine, but it's cheap to talk through that stuff.
asciilifeform: definitely is the absolutely smallest part of a vtronic project
asciilifeform: phf: i really dun see what's wrong with the old form
phf: and then vdiff v1 will give you a/foo b/foo genesis
phf: asciilifeform: right, that's possibly something to make mandatory then, that is a diff of any two directories produces a a/... b/... patch. so that you can have v1/foo v2/foo v3/foo and vdiff v2 v3 produces a/foo b/foo
asciilifeform: helps in keeping the thing straight, if they werent reqd i'd be stuck making'em anyway
asciilifeform: phf: i like the explicit a/b dirs ☟︎
phf: err vdiff foo where inside foo you have multiple folders. it's tied to whether or not those parent folders a and b should be implicit, and if vdiff should do the right thing in that case, or keep it all explicit and require the creation of a and b top level folders always.
phf: but to your point specifically, i was thinking that if you provide only one argument, right now vdiff errors out, so i think it would be better if it produced genesis. e.g. vdiff foo could produce a a/foo/* false b/foo/* 123 vpatch
phf: vpatch is picky about what it accepts, it's basically only a/foo/* b/foo/*, where's vdiff can accept a totally random stuff like /foo/bar/qux diffed against /dev/null or whatever. right now even diffing two straight files e.g. vdiff x y will produce a non-pressable vpatch. this is all not so much a bug as an unexplored aspect of vdiffing which is also part of the whole rename tracking. ☟︎
phf: as far as the other idea re empty dir for genesis, i'll play with it. there are some non-v legacy corner cases right now that i should fix anyway when it comes to different kinds of diffed arguments
phf: unless there are objections from others i'll add it to backlog ☟︎
lobbesbot: phf: Sent 11 hours and 19 minutes ago: <asciilifeform> plox to snarf http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2822 into http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=ffa , ty
phf: trinque: that's a valid idea re status code, semantics have changed
spyked: also nb, drakma has no equivalent for curl's --max-time, so I had to cook something up the first time I noticed this issue. sometimes connections don't fail, but they clog the pipeline by keeping the client waiting.
spyked: hey diana_coman, ty for testing! yeah, it's a bit slow because it grabs the feeds serially, I'll have to fix that.
diana_coman: it apparently took feedbot 2 minutes though to spill a first bunch of the comments after the subscribe, lol
diana_coman: wb spyked ; feedbot looks good - I sent it pm to subscribe to http://trilema.com/2018/euloras-communication-protocol-restated/feed/ and it apparently got it (bonus, it correctly said I was already subscribed when I poked it the 2nd time with the same thing)
spyked: of course, this will disable notification via pm as well, so if there's any way you want me to handle this (e.g. mass-adding existing pm notifications) lemme know
spyked: notification for current republican feeds has already been added for #trilema, so you can disable the rss piece in deedbot, trinque ☟︎
spyked: ^ likbez on how to use. to subscribe feeds for pm, pm feedbot, to subscribe for #trilema send command in-channel.
spyked: and there's a long backlog of lines that I need to answer, will come with schedule for those and other work this week.
spyked: anyway, this is no excuse for my long silence, so: I'ma bring rss bot here in the following hour (it's been under heavy testing for the last month, so it should at least be a decent replacement for current deedbot rss functionality) and keccak+manifest ircbot tree should be out by the 1st of december
spyked: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-21#1874133 <-- things were all nice and sweet back when http://thetarpit.org/posts/y05/07f-bucharest-ii.html#selection-499.71-499.250 and I got the wheels greased for ircbot regrind and rss bot (got both sitting here, the former's ready to be published), when my old man started getting intermittent fevers coupled with an excruciating pain in the leg muscles. we ended up burning our time in hospitals and still no clue wtf' ☝︎
lobbesbot: spyked: Sent 1 week, 5 days, 16 hours, and 20 minutes ago: <mircea_popescu> to continue the thing that never ends : http://trilema.com/2012/generatia-fara/#footnote_0_34776 <<->> http://btcbase.org/log/2018-04-18#1802173
spyked back from the bottomless tar pits of meat, preparing status report
mircea_popescu: i wonder, (sitting all day derping about nonsense) and (begging for a tenner) could possibly be related in any manner ?
mircea_popescu: yes yes, it's now coming back to me.
asciilifeform: ( not to be confused with debian derp; reiser iirc is doing 20tolife for nailing exwife )
mircea_popescu: oh, wait, conflating with templeos guy. my bad
mircea_popescu: wait, i thought the guy died
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=90 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 11/09/2018
BingoBoingo: Eh, all he is alleged to have done is housekeeping
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: eh i suspect they'll let ~him~ out ~after~ they let asciilifeform ( who aint even in yet ) out.
BingoBoingo: Also, to put on the recruiting calendar... July 2020 Hans Reiser first becomes eligible for parole
trinque: asciilifeform: cuntoo bootstrapper produces the same genesis.vpatch repeatedly, runs without network (so we can be certain all deps have been captured). Running once more with ^ and that oughta be that. I'll post the poast tomorrow so it doesn't sound like the tired pile of notebook scribblings it currently does.
trinque holds his nose and appends a || true
trinque: do/don't differ is known by whether there's output
trinque: seems kinda screwy that vdiff exits nonzero when the parameters differ. I know this is classical diff behavior, but eh. I'd expect that to mean "wasn't able to perform diff"
BingoBoingo: In anthro lulz an Elliot who decided to cope by marrying Jesus got killed by natives on an Island nominally part of India and nobody has any idea how to collect the cadaver
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf plox to snarf http://www.loper-os.org/?p=2822 into http://btcbase.org/patches?patchset=ffa , ty ☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: imho the empty dir approach needs no sugar
trinque: is there some cleaner way of having vdiff produce a genesis than having an empty directory laying around with which to vdiff?
BingoBoingo: Aite, I'll make sure to apply the Johnson oil liberally
asciilifeform: take note of the examples i left behind.
asciilifeform: ( dun particularly matter what, so long as you recognize the 'tit shoot' laters )
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: also you'll want to draw on'em
asciilifeform: ( dun have to send me the result, just sit on it )
asciilifeform: i suggest to BingoBoingo to bring a lamp and retake
asciilifeform: a good % of these are underexposed / invisible
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It's a certain porn shoot you requested a couple weeks back for today
lobbesbot: BingoBoingo: The operation succeeded.
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell asciilifeform http://aaronrogier.net/4_alf.tar.gz.gpg
lobbesbot: phf: Sent just now: <asciilifeform> plz send to addr in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-16#1873029 , ty
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-16 21:48 asciilifeform: ( addr is in top-left of 1st photo of mircea_popescu's http://trilema.com/2017/fuckgoats-unboxing-of )
asciilifeform: !Q later tell phf plz send to addr in http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-16#1873029 , ty ☝︎
trinque: yep, look at my recent vps lulz re: "oh hypervisor was misconfigured". thin hosting on real hardware is a market, whether derps know it yet or not. tell 'em.
BingoBoingo: Another thing that seems to have been tabled which I am finding more interesting after my blog disaster is an adult Rockchip plant. Especially now that MP-WP appears to be less of a threat to exhaust RAM after tweaking 1 MYSQL knob.
BingoBoingo: Incentivizing selling is definitely been a thing we haven't succeeded much with so far and could be ripe.
trinque: BingoBoingo: could also incentivize them to do their own selling, "get a month free when you invite" kind of thing
BingoBoingo: Your thrills are appreciated
trinque: I'll say for the record that while I've been quite the loud activist customer, it's precisely because I'm thrilled with the level of service, and want to see the thing thrive.
BingoBoingo: trinque: Quite of few new arrivals are already subscribed, but this is a point
trinque: could very well be that plenty hadn't had - you know - the thought, man.
trinque: BingoBoingo: might I suggest contacting some of the n00bs directly, here, and asking them what would make them a pizarro customer
billymg: ah, makes sense, thank you
mircea_popescu: basically, conditions that in maramures produced a wood civilisation are producing a metal civilisation among these gypsies -- salt-of-the-earth man's ideal toy is soldering kit.
a111: Logged on 2014-09-10 15:02 mircea_popescu: well yeah. was a bunch o people, they got building permit and proceeded to built like at home. concrete pillars, brick walls etc.
mircea_popescu: moreover, earthquakes are frequent, the terrain very uneven and the need for insulation nil -- heavy masonry building like my culture favours ( http://btcbase.org/log/2014-09-10#824588 ) provides great insulation and significant earthquake vulnerability but requires flat terrain -- a terrible fit for the actual situation. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: there's some merits to this, considering square foot of floor space is cheaper here than anywhere else, and by a degree of magnitude (unless, of course, one buys into the miami idiocy -- then it's a good 50% more expensive).
mircea_popescu: also, there are no cities here. the local's notion of building strictly meets barn criteria, they throw up some sheet metal atop soldered metal pikes and call it done. the only city is san jose, and it's a sorry sort of akron, at that.
mircea_popescu: and yes, it's remote and so supply-inconvenient, for all sorts of things.
mircea_popescu: i mean, i watched the lava flow at night from my bed. living on the side of an active volcano doesn't strike me as "humanity's best moment" material.
mircea_popescu: i don't know that i'd move there ; but it's certainly a pleasant two day trip.
billymg: with the goal of being able to arrange my life in such a way that provides more time for actual work
billymg: at this point i think it's either that or texas for me (as a temp solution)
billymg: unrelated, mircea_popescu: what do you think of the lake arenal region? i visited once and was playing around with the idea of even moving there
mircea_popescu: aaanyway. wbr it is, that works universally.
billymg: yeah, and not surprising considering they update the "spec" every coupla months
mircea_popescu: though i looked at it through various.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-25 17:32 mircea_popescu: billymg no, see : http://archive.is/x2Ci6#selection-189.0-197.209 ? this is breakage.
billymg: in this archive link you posted: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-25#1874594 ☝︎
billymg: which is quite disappointing for me, i was excited at the prospect of a line of my css making it into trilema! :D
billymg: but i see your point, if it doesn't render properly on a republican box then it doesn't render properly
billymg: it was rendering fine on archive.is for me too, since they just snapshot the html/css (and i inspected to see that it had the styled `<span>` in there)
deedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=89 << Bimbo.Club - TMSR Log Summary - 11/08/2018
billymg: but that could just mean the property, and not all values for the property
billymg: it apparently is supposed to be supported as of firefox 15
billymg: fwiw the word-break thing on trilema was rendering like this for me http://billymg.com/downloads/word-break.png
billymg: lol, that's awful
mircea_popescu: ima put this in the log, as a testament to just how indescribably retarded html is :
mircea_popescu: again, the desire behaviour is 5-5-6-FRAGMENT OF 3 then on next line remainder of 14. NOT!!!! 5-5-6-whitespace then on next line WHOLE 17.
mircea_popescu: billymg no, see : http://archive.is/x2Ci6#selection-189.0-197.209 ? this is breakage. ☟︎
billymg: hey, looks good on my end (in that post) -- previously the `<br>` was breaking it a bit too soon and leaving some whitespace at the end of the line, before printing the remainder on the next line
mircea_popescu: let's try this then!