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mircea_popescu: <mike_c> markets break over the stupid leap second << no they don't.
decimation: essentially there isn't such a thing as p2p time
trinque: say I though a block from last year at your node, I don't see why it would matter that your clock is set to tomorrow
ascii_field: decimation: it isn't an 'if'
punkman: you can't have bitcoin without human time. meat rots.
ascii_field: decimation: because bitcoin doesn't use crypto
shinohai: T_T
jurov: i don't have anything around to rip
ascii_field: ben_vulpes: there wouldn't be any '-connect' on pogo net
ascii_field: but it doesn't.
trinque: so you don't like the outboard rtc?
jurov: i can't imagine what would have to be done if you expect your own pipe to be utterly hostile
ascii_field: but we don't have even this.
ascii_field: but we don't have one.
trinque: I don't see a way of getting the time that *doesn't* suffer from that
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: it doesn't make a practical difference, but it pins a pointless magic variable at its "infinity" value, in the zero, one infinity mapping.
ascii_field: but what this means is that no, the thing won't correct for clock offset
kakobrekla: >you won't gain much by lying to your peers since your block won't be
kakobrekla: >but I can't fake the hashing power it needs to
ascii_field: anyone who sees a 'martian' version number from nosuchlabs public node, please don't be alarmed. running an experiment today, to determine whether we are being corralled by gavinists using advertised version constant
mats: ain't the net a grand place?
ascii_field: but wasn't synced last i saw
ben_vulpes: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/07/06/science/colorados-push-against-teenage-pregnancies-is-a-startling-success.html << I don't know why the conservatives with all their hate for welfare programs aren't pro-free-contraception
ascii_field: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-07-2015#1189377 << don't lose the steel plate that sits under the pcb - it's the only heatsink ☝︎
ben_vulpes: punkman: shouldn't that be a function of the number of blocks since the last difficulty adjustment?
asciilifeform: atm i don't have access to a usable bitcoin node at all!
asciilifeform: ;;later tell mircea_popescu that box really hasn't sufficient i/o to comfortably house phuctor and node. but i presently haven't any other place to put a node.
williamdunne: shinohai: Can't take all the credit.. http://intheoreum.org/
mircea_popescu: davout wouldn't that be something :D
davout: wasn't it only friday?
jurov: if it's shipped from murica maybe it's better to disassemble them, mark as "parts" so that customs aren't tempted to "fix" the declared price
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 05:28:03; ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188136 << hm, this is an issue isn't it << srsly
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 05:11:49; ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mircea_popescu an irc bouncer job advert wouldn't go amiss
jurov: !t m f.mpif
cazalla: going on holidays.. don't forget your smoke grenades https://twitter.com/TSAmedia_LisaF/status/529714501663608832
punkman: guess the job doesn't pay well enough
ben_vulpes: <asciilifeform> (oop systems which aren't clos (or possibly smalltalk's, and generally meta-object-able) are like btc securities exchanges which aren't mpex.) << by virtue of living in the shit your whole life, you'll be able to read it.
ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/ << someone who knows, someone wh doesn't
ben_vulpes: <mircea_popescu> http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188136 << hm, this is an issue isn't it << srsly ☝︎☟︎
decimation: heh. I'm not much of a lisp guy, but the ones I know aren't a fan of emacs lisp
ben_vulpes: ;;later tell mircea_popescu an irc bouncer job advert wouldn't go amiss ☟︎
ben_vulpes: i'm saying that my nose ain't that good yet
decimation: I just didn't trust it by the smell
ben_vulpes: can't say as i can tell from your question.
mircea_popescu: don't look at me, it's all them.
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> just think of the moral degeneration from ~that~ << those grapes aren't whine yet.
asciilifeform: i personally refuse to make any distinction between someone who wrote, e.g., 'heartbleed', into existence - and some other fella who ~knew of it and didn't tell me~
decimation: actually gdb isn't involved
asciilifeform: i don't give a flying fuck personally, but the terminology might sow some confusion among readership
asciilifeform: 'The average C/C++ programmer's intuition says that uninitialized variables are fine as long as you don't depend on their values. A more experienced programmer probably suspects that uninitialized variables are fine as long as you don't access them. ... Well, it turns out that even if the caller does nothing at all with the return value – ever... ... the program might bomb.'
decimation: "if you don't have a debt jubileee it's like you are shoveling jews into the furnace"
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 20:06:46; williamdunne: danielpbarron: Twitter's URL shortening is unpredictable. Basically it just checks if it can fit in 140 characters pre-shortening and trims what won't
asciilifeform: can't be any worse than bitcoind
asciilifeform: (oop systems which aren't clos (or possibly smalltalk's, and generally meta-object-able) are like btc securities exchanges which aren't mpex.)
assbot: Logged on 06-07-2015 01:23:43; mats: i haven't noticed any actual bugs, but its apparent the person who wrote the port literally just copied it over without using python idioms like factories
mats: (they got pwned, if that wasn't clear)
mats: i haven't noticed any actual bugs, but its apparent the person who wrote the port literally just copied it over without using python idioms like factories ☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188136 << hm, this is an issue isn't it ☝︎
asciilifeform: or that other thread, which i can't seem to find, where we spoke of how 'maths wot is not essential for being published, but for even having publishable ideas instead of burning your life on fibonacci sequences or some other solved/irrelevant dead end' ☟︎☟︎☟︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: This is a crisis of existential proportions! I don't know who the Buttcoin public thinks I am.
mircea_popescu: obviously these can't be both true.
mircea_popescu: wasn't the guy married to some chick people were more or less jokingly proposing to be satoshi in early say 2010-2011 ?
mircea_popescu: nevertheless... this isn't, actualy, a big problem. hasn't been, for five millenia.
mircea_popescu: if that 1% doesn't feel the state like a glove, the state's gone. kinda like my ancient "the state may exist inasmuch as and for as long as i can't tell it's there." ☟︎
mircea_popescu: you don't take over the enemy's things. you just make them be a burden to him now.
mircea_popescu: oh, they won't dispute that. they will USE IT.
mircea_popescu: the chinese don't do in your face anyway
decimation: no, they don't work that way
jurov: they don't need in-your-face
mircea_popescu: anyway. actually genetic gypsy people don't drink well. this, they have in common with the hungarians. hence the entire thing in romania.
decimation: it's interesting that they didn't really come to the us
williamdunne: decimation: Generally people don't differentiate between Romani and the Irish traveller sort - all come under the name 'gypsy' in the common tongue
punkman: williamdunne: the great unwashed, we don't care about those
williamdunne: Can't be taking the piss that much
decimation: mircea_popescu: I wouldn't be too upset, the romanians are taking the piss from the uk right now - talk to any london cabbie
mircea_popescu: rest of the world won't listen until it starves too
mircea_popescu: (you may think "oh, wouldn't it be more logical to do africa first ?" and no, it wouldn't. africa's inhabited by monkeys currently, so it doesn't matter. same pattern played out in 1705 - napoleon went after europe not after the us. because in 1705 the us was africa)
mircea_popescu: what, you think maryland's not chaos everywhere "that doesn't matter" ?
mircea_popescu: just like the us works now, so it won't even be strange.
trinque: chaos everywhere that doesn't matter
ben_vulpes: trinque: ain't gonna be b.
mircea_popescu: no it won't.
mircea_popescu: isn't it ?
punkman: guess if your bank account is empty you don't care much about capital controls
asciilifeform: what kind of reader ~doesn't~ throw exceptions when encountering undefined symbol
BingoBoingo: Wasn't there some Jewish thing where numbers had location or some shit.
williamdunne: Price going up doesn't hurt
williamdunne: danielpbarron: Twitter's URL shortening is unpredictable. Basically it just checks if it can fit in 140 characters pre-shortening and trims what won't ☟︎
mircea_popescu: yo froggers : you don't have any "right to be forgotten", you don't get to abuse dmca out of fucking canada, and in general stfu.
jurov: lol don't mention airplanes. last time i was sitting 10hrs in one i wanted to die
mircea_popescu: some places aren't really livable w/o it
BingoBoingo: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=05-07-2015#1188163 << If you want to write it up I don't see much wrong ☝︎
thestringpuller: mats: didn't know asian people said that too
asciilifeform: i bought dosimeter to find out precisely on what days i oughtn't to even go the three blocks
asciilifeform: if you're gonna take a shot at a lizardman, don't shoot for the knee!
assbot: Logged on 05-07-2015 09:31:13; mircea_popescu: "UO is very much a view into the world that could have been, if WOW hadn't come along and MMORPGs became driven by addiction mechanics instead of depth. (I do not necessarily mean that as a perjorative... I take my own hits on the bong of grind-based (J/W/T)RPGs sometimes. But it's a fair description.)"
asciilifeform: ;;later tell lobbes might want to adjust that thing so it doesn't cycle when www comes down and then up
mircea_popescu: "UO is very much a view into the world that could have been, if WOW hadn't come along and MMORPGs became driven by addiction mechanics instead of depth. (I do not necessarily mean that as a perjorative... I take my own hits on the bong of grind-based (J/W/T)RPGs sometimes. But it's a fair description.)" ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'i learned that... they don't recycle pigeons.' (tm) (r) ('red meat')
Vexual: hey, if you can't fix it with whisky and a hammer, its broken