asciilifeform: iirc jwz also wrote sumthing or other.

asciilifeform: if not him -- next d00d would've.

asciilifeform: not exactly archimedes.

asciilifeform: aha

asciilifeform: loox like he write some emacsola

asciilifeform looks in ancient notes...

asciilifeform: do i know who that is ?

asciilifeform: these people have about as much to do with the actual history of Things People Did Before (tm) as the bird shit on the hood of my car has with the engine.

asciilifeform: nuts.

asciilifeform: where

asciilifeform: waiwaat

asciilifeform: https://int10h.org/oldschool-pc-fonts/fontlist << turned up this. prolly moar than anybody cares to know re subj.

asciilifeform: nuffin to do with borland per se tho, it's the standard vga 80x25 font

asciilifeform: it

asciilifeform: aha iet

asciilifeform: i prefer the classic vga fat chars also.

asciilifeform: but again cannot be made to look proper on arbitrary display.

asciilifeform: imho lispm font was also notbad , https://www.ifis.uni-luebeck.de/~moeller/symbolics-info/development-environment/debugger.gif

asciilifeform: err,http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-30#1575068 ☝︎

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-11-30#1575064 << thread. seealso. ☝︎

asciilifeform: if anybody's ever pulled it off, i'd like to hear about it.

asciilifeform: ( tried many times to manually rasterize it to fit my display, result was always shit , perhaps my hands grow from arse, or perhaps not actually possible )

asciilifeform: i could prolly spend rest of life fighting with the font config and still not get anything as comfortable as dos font.

asciilifeform: living without good font even nao.

asciilifeform: i fiddled with this nonsense for ages and gave up.

asciilifeform: yes!!

asciilifeform: mine too, given that it lived in 80x25 and used the spiffy nonscalable vga font

asciilifeform: noshit

asciilifeform: http://www.loper-os.org/pub/color-emacs.jpg << photo, for the curious

asciilifeform: brother said sumthinglike 'here's the emacs and here's the taiwan emacs'

asciilifeform: i asked 'what is this, why there are 2 emacses on this box'

asciilifeform: xemacs was actually the first systemdism i ever ran into head on

asciilifeform: i even have colour in it ( purely for personal enjoyment , repainted to resemble ye olde borland turbo )

asciilifeform: the trad emacs worxfine under x11 , since asciilifeform was a student, and prolly before

asciilifeform: buncha derps in 1990s ran off to mikehearn emacs, back in the day. ☟︎

asciilifeform: i thought there was a thread re subj.

asciilifeform: it's a bitcoincash of trad emacs.

asciilifeform: 0.

asciilifeform: xemacs has 0 to do with the emacs e.g. asciilifeform today runs under x11.

asciilifeform: i think i have the book still, propping up some piece of furniture

asciilifeform tried to use it eons ago, barfed mightily

asciilifeform: xt?

asciilifeform: right after we find out how many, after all, angels fit on the pin.

asciilifeform: nfi

asciilifeform: it's a mirage , like the other one touched on today, the concrete-thefuture

asciilifeform still not certain that anybody actually believes in 'thepeople' , rather than pretending to

asciilifeform: 1970s

asciilifeform: vatican2

asciilifeform: '70s

asciilifeform: re orclang , that's when it fell down neh.

asciilifeform: asciilifeform lives in a 'spanish' part of town , and was quite surprised to learn that most of the folx on his street go yes to church but no not to catholic church

asciilifeform: sooo it's true, the fungus is eating ye olde catholistans ?

asciilifeform: lol clinica de ropa

asciilifeform: i thought that was an empty token tho

asciilifeform: but do they ?

asciilifeform: trinque: afaik that's generally a 1shot thing, neh

asciilifeform: oldwine in newbottle aha

asciilifeform: the new beer has to be substantially old.

asciilifeform: not convinced of this. zek is also very much creature of habit

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-08-04#1514935 << see also ☝︎

asciilifeform: they sure do.

asciilifeform: upstack : iirc nelson wanted a perma-storage-net . in 1970 . to this day we dun have it, because -- apparently -- too expensive ? or how else to explain that folx still whine from having to store 1(decimal-)MB per 10min

asciilifeform: this was more or less always part of the tragedy of the d00d

asciilifeform: and yes naggum is buried in cement partly on account of the shattering of bridge that he himself had a hand in building

asciilifeform: me neither. archaeology is a science of the sad and destroyed.

asciilifeform: or was it

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i dun think it was vandalized yet when naggum was alive and pointing to it

asciilifeform: ( oddly enuff some of the dead people, have working www, and the live people -- not , go figure )

asciilifeform: earlier this (?) yr, possibly it was from prod from mircea_popescu , asciilifeform removed a buncha folx from blogroll pg ... for being dead

asciilifeform: ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-18#1658672 << example of subj ) ☝︎

asciilifeform looks at the corpse of bitbet, with some suprise finds that it does not ~yet~ contain one of these

asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-07#1766691 << it's not wholly unlike the old mpex.xyz dnsolade that today points to 'buy cardanocoin NAO!' etc ☝︎

asciilifeform: aa 'china'

asciilifeform digs in l0gz

asciilifeform: who even was that

asciilifeform: these will have to suffice for nao, i'ma bbl

asciilifeform: http://xml.coverpages.org/naggumWhat.html << naggum re 'wtf is sgml'.

asciilifeform: https://www.w3.org/blog/2009/06/for-erik-naggum << see also , another pot shard.

asciilifeform: naggum was chair of 'SGML SIGhyper' , an iso subcommittee as i understand

asciilifeform: ( http://www.oasis-open.org today points to xml.coverpages... )

asciilifeform: i suspect that the search at one time worked.

asciilifeform: so not '0 hits'

asciilifeform: http://xml.coverpages.org/rcdataCTS1.html << there's a naggum for mircea_popescu .

asciilifeform: written by either shilbert or similar ( i fughet who ) , so lotta 'we pushed the sun uphill' 'history' mostly

asciilifeform: y'know , it so happens that asciilifeform was bored the other night, and ended up walking into the #1 pantsuit-themed b00kshop in the city , and saw a , whaddayaknow, a 'history of bitcoin' , and guess who mentioned in it 0 times...

asciilifeform: ( there's ~1 recipe )

asciilifeform: the notable bit is that the brits used same exact recipe as stalin later

asciilifeform: aha i think we had this thread

asciilifeform: ( famine really goes with agrarianism , iron law , on account of http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-07#1766429 . it's what their 'boom/bust cycle' loox like. ) ☝︎

asciilifeform: famine is as part of india as rivers of shit, neh

asciilifeform: aaa

asciilifeform: wassis

asciilifeform: and all sudden reichs get built, in lenin's words , 'not from new brick but from the smashed planks of the old shithouse' or how did it go.

asciilifeform: ( tho in modern parlance tends to be applied to paint, and other items that get literally sprayed using air )

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: распылить

asciilifeform: eh this is rather like 'at all points aids patient could grow white cells again and then fungus will die '

asciilifeform: from beneath a tall pile of chomsky & other modernolade.

asciilifeform: prolly he did go and excavate reels.

asciilifeform: i'd be surprised if 'no original' , given the comment re 'I found was that (1) a whole bunch of nutcases thought that only neo-Nazis could be interested in Joseph Goebbels' works and movies...'

asciilifeform: naggum was speaking of 'kolberg' prolly.