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mircea_popescu: and so it goes, the table stakes keep ratcheting up. "hey, i'm the coolest kid in my village!" is great for while we're still talking the village.
mircea_popescu: i think it dates to the Surgeon General Warning's Verifiedaccount.
asciilifeform: i can't recall him from before
mircea_popescu: so fucking totally not a case of "here's my website, i write numbers into it" you wouldn't believe.
asciilifeform: last time i did this, it was moar sweat than worth ( they ban obvious lamermails )
asciilifeform: ( i certainly have no interest in 'open an account...' crapola )
asciilifeform: i have nfi re others
asciilifeform revved up a bigbloxforq node a la pete_dushenski , 'i'ma cash in my shitcoin', discovers that various goxes (e.g. 'shapeshift') dun really wanna buy so much
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i deliberately didn't want to make any assumptions. "black box" if you prefer.
mircea_popescu: i'm not entirely sure how it would be, but anyway.
PeterL: so I thought I would run a little experiment to check
PeterL: So I was thinking about how asciilifeform suggested generating new random numbers until you hit a prime instead of incrementing a single random number to find the next prime, and my initial guess would that generating new numbers would take a lot longer
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1702832 <- aha; trouble is that people are scared of the "cost" and like any scare it is way bigger than the actual real thing; as previously mentioned I really don't see this "I can hold bitcoin without knowing /getting dirty with it" thing ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i don't think anyone cut apart one such ledger nano, so dunno
runsegshet: TRB how to isn't truly noob proof. I have never even used Linux. I'm not qualified to run a TRB node it seems. I'm just a user who wants my BTC to remain mine ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyway, i'm not sure what's easier, eulora install or trb install. they're very similar processes for some reason (har har)
asciilifeform: i still can't quite figure out why sram costs what it does
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i ain't putting it into production yet. just sits there on hdd, lol.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have a draft design for the sticks already.
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1702796 <- it's actually even download& run sort of thing and no online/keeping up to date requirement; one has to keep their key ofc, but that's about as low bar as it gets I think ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i would definitely buy some sram machines.
asciilifeform: ( why to do this ? just as in other cases of 'i can't believe it's not X!', dram is not actually random-access -- all currently sold drams only achieve their rated speed in 'burst mode'; and from that it follows that they are only ever read to fill a cache line; and from this, trivial timing leak etc. and the joys of 'rowhammer', bonus. ) ☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-24#1702786 << i entertain noobs/unknowns mostly because/when my answers to their questions are actually worth reading. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, hashes are by definition unreversable, and they no longer propagate transactions. so i wouldn't know your transaction from adams' or "your" pile of nonsense from another's.
mircea_popescu: ie right now, if i want to spend from 1address to 1youraddress i end up composing a transaction that gets mined (emplaced in a block). it's about 250 bytes worth of 1address signs transaction x where it got coin, and hash of 1youyraddress etc.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-24 13:03 runsegshet: I can't just send to paper wallets and be safe?
a111: Logged on 2017-08-24 13:00 runsegshet: I'd be trading digital gold for what appears to be electronic copper in a video game
a111: Logged on 2017-08-24 12:42 runsegshet: I want to take action to safe keep my bitcoin, but dont know technicals to not be segwit tokens
runsegshet: I can't just send to paper wallets and be safe? ☟︎
runsegshet: I'd be trading digital gold for what appears to be electronic copper in a video game ☟︎
diana_coman: runsegshet, moreover, I suppose as an easy/quick solution you could even simply transfer your bitcoin into ECu in Eulora - I guess it is the lowest effort option to keep and even use btc at this moment; e.g. http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=Ecu
runsegshet: I want to take action to safe keep my bitcoin, but dont know technicals to not be segwit tokens ☟︎
runsegshet: this is what I'm worried about
runsegshet: am I going to get robbed
pete_dushenski: https://i.redd.it/gtb7siwe0mhz.jpg
mircea_popescu: i thought i sent you an answer.
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> hanbot was teh witness << aha. i concurr it is a system, she was able to decipher it.
mike_c: I ordered this shit from amazon before I orderd the goats. Goats arrived, still waiting for amazon package.
mircea_popescu: i expect just change the contents
mircea_popescu: me failing math. their cap is 86k/yr not 8600 as i thought, nm
asciilifeform: aah i was speaking of the prove-30k item
mircea_popescu: no, i mean, people being paid by costa rican government may not earn in excess of
mircea_popescu: i have nfi. maybe.
ppsk: lol, i doubt you would get away with that these days. But then, maybe?
mircea_popescu: anyway, the first time i was here, bout 15 years ago, i came in on a tourist visa (with the idea of staying for a coupla weeks), ended up staying three years.
ppsk: no, I'm rather new to all this
ppsk: easy TEFL program too from what I hear, makes getting in and staying in a lot easier
ppsk: Ive seriously considered the universal plan for wealth, I was thinking central or south america is a good place to start over
mircea_popescu: i live in cr atm.
ppsk: I was surprised you hadn't written something regarding the whole bitcoin cash debacle
ppsk: just wanted to say I've really enjoyed reading your blog, i can't remember how i first stumbled across it but its been one of the better collection of writings on the internet
a111: Logged on 2017-04-07 20:17 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-07#1639964 << one of the (~the~ ?) advantage of tmsr work for intelligent folk is that there isn't a braindamaged/choiceless manager in the loop going "i know it's stupid but it must be done".
mircea_popescu: and thjere's no "that's how i feel blue squares should look on the wall" defense. hence the popularity of the pleb misstatement of "art".
mircea_popescu: this is more of the same delusion of specialness, "oh, it is my option whether i join trilema and i can set my own goals". in your dreams, and there only.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i dun give a shit what they';re shooting for.
mircea_popescu: i dunno, symbolix 2 ?
trinque: I just counted 170 sec
whaack: I just don't see how footnote 2 mentions the point of the btc difficulty decreasing while the miners are away from the main chain, even if it does allude to it by showing that holding the btc miner for an extended period of time doesn't help (b.c. of the fact that while the miners are away from the main chain their difficulty is decreasing)
whaack: the point I was trying to make was that there's an additional motive not mentioned in http://trilema.com/2014/the-woes-of-altcoin-or-why-there-is-no-such-thing-as-cryptocurrencies/ for the miners who "swoop in" in to return to to the main chain - namely while they were gone on the main chain the difficulty on the main chain gets reduced in addition to the difficulty on the altcoin being increased.
mircea_popescu: it was fully gm'd back when i wrote that article. such dun help.
whaack: I guess when the miners stop raising the difficulty
asciilifeform: this is the traditional bitcoin sync behaviour, and i have not altered it.
asciilifeform: i.e. accepts connections, processes mempool tx ( which, if said tx relies on a yet-unseen block, WILL be rejected, and will look exactly like the snippet mike_c posted, and in fact most of the debug log of a syncing node WILL consist of these )
ben_vulpes: but the error i hit was 'pthread: command not found', which...wat
mike_c: still? I guess boost qualifies as that
BingoBoingo: I thought it popped up around ClassicCoin's proposal
mircea_popescu: i had no idea site was that old.
pete_dushenski: mircea_popescu: it was one of those "please to submit your version details" so... i did. can't recall if i actually clicked the "emergent consensus" button seriously or in jest, or if it was something that the hosts ticked, but it was definitely a test to see if they'd keep it up or not. looks like they have.
pete_dushenski: lol pretty sure i wrote that coin.dance blurb however many years back
asciilifeform: if speaking of cheap nodez, zoolag costs ~0 ( aside from disks ) , i get fiber to the grounds regardless
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> i mean, a trb capable machine is somewhere in the 50-100 bux / month range, certainly an expense but not the end of the world. << Negrodamus, i.e. 192.187.99.74 rents for less
mircea_popescu: i mean, a trb capable machine is somewhere in the 50-100 bux / month range, certainly an expense but not the end of the world.
mod6: I guess I'd like to see all of L1 at least have a trb node at least sync'ing by years end. That's a good goal.
mod6: well, I think we should certainly encourage all to run a node. but yeah, maybe give it some time. my node is close, but 20k blocks behind currently.
mod6: Also all, I have updated the howto page to link the trusted-nodes page as well: http://thebitcoin.foundation/trb-howto.html
mod6: Ok all: trinque, ben_vulpes, asciilifeform, pete_dushenski, mircea_popescu : I have updated the trusted-nodes page, please take a look and verify that the information for your nodes is correct, thank you! http://thebitcoin.foundation/trusted-nodes.html
mod6: <+mircea_popescu> mod6 since these are public and publicly known, how about adding an irc name next to the ip ? so i know who to talk to. << sure, working on the updates now...
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1702390 << for some reason i thought that one was mircea_popescu's ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 21:35 mircea_popescu: ftr, only a coupla of those five actually work. i can connect to 46.166.165.30 regularly but can not connect to eg 108.31.170.49
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 21:40 mod6: And as far as I know, that one is re-syncing.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1702394 << it is zoolag, it is resyncing, and ( i assume everybody knows ) it is ~impossible to usefully connect to a trb node that is syncing ☝︎
mircea_popescu: mod6 since these are public and publicly known, how about adding an irc name next to the ip ? so i know who to talk to.
mircea_popescu: trinque are you one block behind btw ? i think that might make this setup not count you
trinque: I'm connected to it myself from elsewhere, but who knows what's going on.
trinque: looks like I've got 25 connections atm
mod6: Occasionally when I'm trying to do a test or some such thing.
mod6: fwiw, I almost never connect to these myself.
mod6: And as far as I know, that one is re-syncing. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: ftr, only a coupla of those five actually work. i can connect to 46.166.165.30 regularly but can not connect to eg 108.31.170.49 ☟︎
mircea_popescu: o and what a nice header day it is, too. or should i say moon.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 16:04 spyked: loaded (because I don't use this day-to-day), I must consult these items in great detail. my guess here is that once I have spent all the time to learn, the "framework" becomes useless, because the mental framework is in place.
mircea_popescu: and in other life and times, i have a table out on a balcony overlooking the valley where i oft have breakfast. a week or so ago it gained a little wolf spider, he hunts on it. he's there every morning, and if i sit down to eat he leaves to hide in a crevice somewhere while the disturbance lasts.
mircea_popescu: i want to take the time here and delve upon the recursion for your benefit.
a111: Logged on 2017-08-22 15:57 valentinbuza: probably. but i think that your argument is invalid because you say that "in TLS ingredients suck and recipe sucks" and "in Noise ingredients suck therefore the recipe also sucks"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-22#1701949 << very much a standard in the proper sense. standard should specify what must be specified, and NOT specifiy what needn't be specified. which is why all tmsr standards, or at least the ones i wrote, have this very prominent characteristic. "do it whichever way you do it". connects straight up with ye olde specificity of diddling. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (no, i don't just mean reddit pick-up artistry. anglican church same exact thing.)
mircea_popescu: wtf is with this nonsensical "now i will repeat debunked nonsense insistently!" mode.
r0nin-: becuase as i said if you take 2 100 bills and put them in a shelf they dont produce children.
r0nin-: as i said mircea its simple math.
asciilifeform: i wanna hear how 'natural' is to borrow from others for phree