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diana_coman: ah, I was scratching head re golden veal, lol; that'd be the steak basically
mircea_popescu: apparently it's called the golden calf, in english. pity, seems a wasted opportunity.
diana_coman: hm, I don't yet see it that way but it'll become clear one way or another quite quickly
mircea_popescu: "nothing can ever be truly interesting" or w/e formulation.
mircea_popescu: i doubt the problem's etiquette. seems to me much deeper issue than that, civillian pantsuit expects anything can be taken in "at his own rate" because his personal golden veal promised him there will never be such a thing as the calling in this world.
mircea_popescu: and more generally, if it's a "oh, #trilema is item #608 on my list of 1850 vaguely maybe interesting items i found on the internet, among which i read to pass the time waiting for the bus or w/e" sorta affair forget about it altogether, there's 0 interest in supporting that kinda imbecility/pluralism/skepticism. ☟︎
lobbesbot: mircea_popescu: The operation succeeded.
mircea_popescu: !Q later tell juliankunkel would you kindly spare us the join/part spamming ? can read the weblogs just fine, no need to be connected with nothing to say.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2018/post-malone/ << Trilema -- Post Malone
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881112 << interesting, and esp. from the pov where the bolixiana hoarders quite resemble him... ☝︎
lobbesbot: asciilifeform: The operation succeeded.
asciilifeform: !Q later tell amberglint http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881109 << if you found the src, might be interesting , otherwise not imho esp. useful ☝︎☟︎
BingoBoingo: The afterlife is a helluva thing
amberglint: N-World was relatively popular among 90s game developers, used in the development of Super Mario 64 and Final Fantasy VII which are probably the most popular console games of their time
amberglint: the product was renamed twice, first to N-World, then to Mirai
a111: Logged on 2018-12-16 04:59 asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bTqWsVqyzE << the most well-known item produced with subj, afaik
amberglint: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881097 << the most-well known item is the Lord of the Rings movie ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-16 04:44 asciilifeform: ( phunphakt to tie this into prev thread -- seems as if the bolix 3d engine, 1 of the 1st to be sold as such, still exists as commercial product, owned by some jp firm. naturally cppized and renamed. )
amberglint: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-16#1881090 << not cppized, ported to Allegro Common Lisp actually ☝︎
lobbesbot: amberglint: Sent 2 weeks, 1 day, 6 hours, and 7 minutes ago: <BingoBoingo> your last line ties into the real estate thread. Easier to buy things than make things or have them made
a111: Logged on 2018-12-16 05:30 mircea_popescu: that looks 2001-terrible
mircea_popescu: " As a result, we have decided to turn off the bulletin board while we search for a better product (hopefully one that will allow us to migrate our previous content). Just to let everyone know, we have been working quite busily over the past couple months, and will make announcements of any new product availability as soon as it/they become(s) available! "
mircea_popescu: "Bulletin Board As you may have discovered, our bulletin board has recently been overrun by garbage posts, contributing in part to the crash of the Mirai forum. "
asciilifeform: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bTqWsVqyzE << the most well-known item produced with subj, afaik ☟︎
asciilifeform: ( phunphakt to tie this into prev thread -- seems as if the bolix 3d engine, 1 of the 1st to be sold as such, still exists as commercial product, owned by some jp firm. naturally cppized and renamed. ) ☟︎
asciilifeform: it's mostly used for ordinary boring guism, rather than game
asciilifeform: qt ( of last i saw it ) had a thin shim for opengl but iirc hat was all the '3dism' offered therein
mircea_popescu: qt is "not graphics friendly" so to speak.
mircea_popescu: but all this said, i see the "multiplatform" angle.
mircea_popescu: (let's take a moment for a libration in thanking the gods satoshi didn't fucking writer bitcoin in unity)
asciilifeform wrote a fairly substantial ( tho unpublished and long ago retired ) proggy with qt, rewritten from wx; but never so much as touched 'unity'
mircea_popescu: that hydro plant is NEVER going anywhere. if there's 5000 people left total, it'll still run.
mircea_popescu: which is my point here. you're comparing a hydro plant built on rhine cca 1880 with a franchised "fries on pizza!" extruded plastic truck
mircea_popescu: eh, qt will outlive nokia. like those old hydro plants in europe, went through 20+ "owners" that went bankrupt.
asciilifeform: qt that is
mircea_popescu: unity is three dorks and a shoe string. not working, never will work, won't be here in another few years.
asciilifeform: they dun need to not suck to be taken up, only to suck less than the 'native' variant, which is surprisingly easy
mircea_popescu: yes, but qt is very fucking different from this unity thing.
asciilifeform: 'crossplatform lib'isms that even half-work (e.g. 'qt') end up wildly popular, on acct of how much sweat they save if condition 'must run on microshit AND crapple' is a given for $product
mircea_popescu: i suppose the question might be a little like "why are they all in flip flops, terrible design, utterly inconvenient, how the fuck is every dumbass on fetlife amange to pick em". ie, "pick nothing, it's what they had at the store. ALL they had at the store."
mircea_popescu: if this is the result of some kind of signalling, i'd like to know what the fuck.
asciilifeform: btw 'unity' seems to be pestilentially common on the various 3dvisor boxen
asciilifeform: i misread , thought was re 'unity'
mircea_popescu: the idiots s.mg forked legacy eulora codebase from << this is a group of random morons, hardly together enough to find which side of the wall it's raining on.
asciilifeform: evidently they're cousins of somebody or else. or else why picked by hitler.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-16 04:24 mircea_popescu: so, dorks with no connections and no resources somehow nevertheless managed to schelling on this. why the fuck ? what ? cuz it's got a cube-like "icon" and 2010 was all about cube-like icons, gotta kubinetes on unity ?
asciilifeform: or do they literally draw'em from hat.
mircea_popescu: so, dorks with no connections and no resources somehow nevertheless managed to schelling on this. why the fuck ? what ? cuz it's got a cube-like "icon" and 2010 was all about cube-like icons, gotta kubinetes on unity ? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: anyone with even cursory qualifications in software project management could have pointed out they have 0 chances of managing the switch before their chosen platform dies (they took 12+ years to fuck up the original codebase, glacial foss devcycles as only gnu can exemplify).
mircea_popescu: and before "conspiracy theory", as in "they have a mailing list, http://qntra.net/2015/11/disgraced-gavin-of-global-warming-government-scaling-debate-moves-on-to-alt-kook/ style, talked it over there in secret and consensused to pick this" : the idiots s.mg forked legacy eulora codebase from also famously "decided to switch to unity".
mircea_popescu: ~why~ exactly the robohitler chose to act as if this piece of shit is "the future" for a decade starting cca 2010 is the faint interesting bit in here.
mircea_popescu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unity_Technologies << vaguely interesting to the entomologist, i guess. 100% vaporware, shit never worked nor was it ever useful. yet for reasons unclear it received the microsoft treatment, where usg.ibm started throwing money at it for no reason, rather than the http://trilema.com/2015/you-know-what-gets-no-airplay-unflattering-truth/ usual pump-and-dump scam treatment.
mircea_popescu: what the fuck are they thinking, keks.
asciilifeform: ( 3620 was approx on part with winblowz for boot time )
asciilifeform: funny how this thing boots faster than 'modern' microshits.
phf: asciilifeform, yeah i just included the patches in case there's something interesting there (i don't know what the overlap of patchsets is between machines)
asciilifeform: ( at the very least, is moar than i've written for it )
asciilifeform: iguess that's sumthing.
asciilifeform: the 1st, lol, port of 'zork' to bolix...
asciilifeform: phf: the 2nd link contains dks patches
phf: (there are some other hacks in genera-src, but i don't want to investigate at the moment)
mircea_popescu: some dead ends take walking to eliminate.
asciilifeform: ( and also didn't pompously 'lisp engineer' title blog... )
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's purchase of 3620 back in the day may've been a dead end, but at least only wasted a handful of posts on subj.
asciilifeform: he reminds me of that kanzure d00d, who 'look, i spent $2mil on microscope parts' 'so what didja micrograph?' '...'
phf: i think he took a bunch of macro photos of random parts, and wrote a zmachine version 0 emulators, which in itself can be noted, if the rest of it wasn't so obnoxious
asciilifeform: at one time i actually went through his entire www, thinking to find even 1 shot of PAL/GAL with the sticker off, to identify the part. found 0.
asciilifeform: trinque: 'lisp engineer' (picture) is simply the most publicly-egregious example i know of . prolly there are others, similar, but with fewer lolcatpics
asciilifeform possibly has laboratory instrument from later date, but can't immediately think which specifically
asciilifeform: also so happens also that the most recent piece of iron in the torture room , excluding FG, is from '09. ( the opterons in the box i'm sitting on nao. )
asciilifeform: phf: i got 1 of those here, lol
phf: i bought a barely used eizo cg243w from a russian guy. it was one of his last possessions (no work and didn't want to become a "corporate whore"), and he talked about how quality of everything went down and keeps going down and that you really only can trust 2009 hardware at the latest. i wonder if there are more people like that hoarding their prized bolix, but without yet hitting the necessity to sell one.
asciilifeform: for comparison, http://www.lispmachine.net/symbolics.txt is identical to the document i got from dks in '07. quotes 3.2k for the exact box i uncrated today.
asciilifeform: couldn't have all gone to the au recyclers, i dun think.
asciilifeform: iirc in early 2000s, 'american express' unplugged its bolix cluster ( handled fraud detection thingie ) , and surplussed coupla hundred machines. wonder where they went.
asciilifeform: i suspect it's moar like the high prices of illicit cell pnoje in jail. i.e. not high because megatonnes of money circulating, but because supply so thin.
phf: asciilifeform, that's entirely my impression. the xl that i bought went at asking price, because ^ wasn't bidding, the rest of them were bought by the same guy, and he was bidding against a handful of desperados. i suspect that the whole thing was a fluke, or rather the Rembrandt market was a combination of luck and skill on the part of dks
asciilifeform: phf: damned if i know. in as far as i can tell, the entire 'user komyoonity' consists of asciilifeform , phf, and a dozen http://btcbase.org/log/2017-08-03#1693150 's ☝︎
asciilifeform: already missed 1 last yr for, iirc, 3k, didn't want to wait until it's 5,6,9000 (or entirely extinct)
phf: or it was always the same 5 people bidding
asciilifeform: possibly i'm the last archaeologist who didn't have 1 yet, lol
phf: ah, huh, he's an experienced showman, could've probably sold as a board, without anything else and still fetched the same price
asciilifeform: ( iirc the crapple box per se is worth about a hundy on junkmarkets )
asciilifeform wonders where dks gets the oddball bios batteries the ancient crapples took
a111: Logged on 2014-01-19 19:38 asciilifeform: as a boy, i read about an 18th c. book, 'Triple Power over the Forces of Hell'
asciilifeform: ( it also came with the nic, so i'ma run it through x11. but will keep these around for later http://btcbase.org/log/2014-01-19#449479 ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: and the infamous 1button mouse
asciilifeform: ( this makes for ~3~ original bolix cd sets in asciilifeform's torture room. anybody in l1 want one ? )
asciilifeform: in other noose, phf , mircea_popescu , et al, the bolix is here. dks packs a++ , princely, all parts on manifest , and kilometre of bubbles. will post photos as soon as i wrap up my albatross of this week, ch14
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/?p=106 << Bimbo.Club -- TMSR Log Summary - 11/23/2018
mircea_popescu: precisely. i have regular bowel movements that do not tend to interfere with my daily life ; but even so i still spend most of the day doing other things.
asciilifeform: sorta how i've met runners, even competition-grade ones, but they did not run all day, erry day, to kitchen, to toilet, etc ☟︎
asciilifeform: people think (if at all) 'part-time'
mircea_popescu: i've yet to encounter, this fabled wonder of the ages, the thinking man.
asciilifeform under no illusion that said specimen 'tops scale'
mircea_popescu: there's a lot of variety out there, "i have a cuck, i'm marrying him" doesn't even top the scale.
asciilifeform: i thought it was mostly pokerists, and shirts rather than socks
mircea_popescu: btw, you ever met one of those athletes who never changed their socks this month
mircea_popescu: i thought we previously agreed last time any actual design work went into computing the year was 1979