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fromphuctor: i wanted to read about the relationship between math and programming languages
fromphuctor: ah now i remember my question
asciilifeform: fromphuctor: if you're curious re phuctor, i recommend to read the faq page
fromphuctor: go on with your things, i ask if i want to know sth
asciilifeform: i'm a little surprised that 'linux foundation' and prb foundation ain't on that list
mircea_popescu: i'd buy shit without wireless in preference of shit with, even if same exact shit.
asciilifeform: possibly i misread q
mircea_popescu: in fact, i'd even declare it an absolutely required bit of republican computing, as such. because it does make a first step towards the specifically stated uci goal, "location ambiguity"
mircea_popescu: well, i would defo buy a bunch of these if properly set up so they can be ip x in wan1 and ip y in wan2 and then establish sessions through the least decongested one at all times.
asciilifeform: 'edge' was a hundy, but it had nice steel chassis, etc. ( and also i suspect sold at a loss, stock firmware was brazenly nsaware )
mircea_popescu: "oh, i never eat at mcdonalds, i always cook all my meals at home out of cheese squares and hormel pork sausage"
mircea_popescu: trinque yeah, but i was just making the point for his benefit that his elaborately crafted turd is not so much better than the 40 bux consumer turd.
trinque: I'm still of the mind that I'd rather eat openbsd than linux
trinque: I dunno what maintain means here
mircea_popescu: need i quote at you ?
mircea_popescu: ah. i guess, if you keep lists of which ones aren't too stupid byu nature
asciilifeform checks router in room and finds ~year of uptime, and would be longer if i hadn't cleaned it last winter
asciilifeform: i certainly can't bring myself to use the konsoomer crapola, when making a replacement that lasts ~forever and requires 0 nursing, is hardly even day's work
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-29#1718203 << i believe. it is not currently directly evident anything else CAN be used, even. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i mean whom. although...
a111: Logged on 2017-09-27 22:46 BingoBoingo: davout: I'm wondering if an progress was made finding Francophone datacenters outside France, preferaby in the heart of the dark continent
davout: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717916 <<< none, i did hit up a couple DCs around here, nothing interesting came out of it ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-20 19:22 asciilifeform: and incidentally i dun have a nonleaking miller-rabin yet, need nonleaking gcd ( have on paper, but not in ffa yet )
asciilifeform: i saw one in chicago zoo.
mircea_popescu: i'd propose as heuristics from this that the moment anyone proposes either a) a computable corolary of ZFC, no matter its kind or b) a computable corolary of AOC, no matter its kind, we're lost for reason.
asciilifeform: again i dun have a verdict re the verdict of $subj, all i got in my notes is 'd00d appears to have stated the problem correctly'
asciilifeform: i dun have a verdict on $article yet. will say that it is simply, afaik, the beginning and the end publicly available on the subj.
mircea_popescu: right, but what i'm saying is that the original article is much in this vein.
asciilifeform: oh hah i mentally mutilated mircea_popescu's item into discretelogproblem, because of thread subj
mircea_popescu: none of this is dispositive ; what i'm saying here is that im pretty sure i read this, and it didn't come through as much more than tyhe usual math grad wank to me.
mircea_popescu: heck, i recently linked to some lulz discussing that. recall cads and his fabled gf ?
mircea_popescu: i am unpersuaded.
mircea_popescu: no i mean the result. "if the classes are separate". well...
asciilifeform: i highly recommend reading.
asciilifeform: i suppose holding a knife between yer teeth, or a flute, etc is also 'against nature' lol
a111: Logged on 2017-09-28 18:29 BingoBoingo: "That's exactly the problem. Yesterday I ate a most delicious desert out of my slavegirl's own ass, directly. This dream of many previous sultans and whatnots that nevertheless couldn't ever be fulfilled effortlessly came through, for me. I didn't even much care for it either way," << TMSR problems
mircea_popescu: actually i recall at some point bring well known super -NP, proven as such, classes.
mircea_popescu: i suppose to get fancy we're inquiring whether information is quantified. fine.
asciilifeform: the thing is, 'knows answer ahead of time' is not an all-or-nothing. in any non-otp ( i.e. 1:1 mapping of plaintxt to ciphertxt ) there is nonzero bittage of info in ciphertext, of plaintext
mircea_popescu: (this being something i suspect mpfhf fambly MAY be amenable to proving, but i've yet to get anywhere)
asciilifeform: but as i understand we asked for a squarer even circle : that 'CAN make grounded promise that effort will require AT LEAST x'
asciilifeform: incidentally i just realized that von neumann had this thread. and modelled the item in shannon's terms : he asked that the ciphertext contain 0 bits of info re the plaintext. and proved that this is true if and only if you're using... otp
asciilifeform: i've been asking for it since we 1st had the thread, lol
mircea_popescu: until proven i ask for it.
asciilifeform: i get this. and would like one of these. but strongly suspect that it is a provably square circle.
mircea_popescu: i don't care that "on average it's 5 trillion but for the value you chose it's two weeks"
mircea_popescu: what interests me, when you say "alfhash is 5 trillion hours strong" is that ANY VALUE i pass into alfhash will be reversed in NO LESS than 5 trillion hours.
asciilifeform: i get this, this isn't the problem. problem is the dismissal of the knowing-the-answer degenerate case
mircea_popescu: the point of interest for the "max case" is b. the point of interest to us is a. the "average case" is either a+b/2 or else ni * weight i / sum i.
asciilifeform: i.e. having the key
BingoBoingo: "That's exactly the problem. Yesterday I ate a most delicious desert out of my slavegirl's own ass, directly. This dream of many previous sultans and whatnots that nevertheless couldn't ever be fulfilled effortlessly came through, for me. I didn't even much care for it either way," << TMSR problems ☟︎
trinque: k, I guess that was the last one
trinque: there's no automatic way to change your key. sign a full export of a new public key with an old one and I'll make the change.
cruciform: so, the logs suggest that my 2048bit RSA key is too short - how do I register a longer one with deedbot?
a111: Logged on 2017-03-02 18:09 asciilifeform: ok i cannot resist answering ben_vulpes . because he will find answer in encyclopaedia, but it will not be an actual answer, but only a thought-extinguisher.
asciilifeform: which is why i favour using rsa in place of blockcipher-hash-prng, painfully. the actual averagecase hardness of rsa is unknown and will probably remain unknown. but at least when you use ~solely~ rsa, you avoid introducing ANOTHER unknown.
a111: Logged on 2017-09-27 20:31 mircea_popescu: "your honor, i'm smarter than the inca, natch" ?
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes yeah, not bad. i still hold that's the ~only avenue to the problem.
BingoBoingo: I'd suspect etherhufferium, Chicoms seem to have more juice to throw at crash
ben_vulpes: i am not particularly surprised, no
BingoBoingo: http://www.jameslafond.com/article.php?id=9009 << Lafond entangled in the legal system JURY DUTY: "I actually told the judge and attorneys about hacking a dude up with a sword and getting off and they selected me as the seventh pick."
ben_vulpes: i think they *were* i mean
ben_vulpes: while i am definitely guilty of eking a half-decade out of a lathe with judicious application of idle six-axis arms found elsewhere in the facility, i don't think even the screw machine squad's hardware was mostly within expected lifespans.
ben_vulpes: > Roy Moore was further endorsed by President Trump announced his intention to enthusiastically campaign for Moore in the event Moore came out on top in the runoff. << there is something missing in this sentence, between President Trump and announced, i think.
asciilifeform: also i have nfi whether the item that remained after the rape, is still squirming or not.
asciilifeform: i dunno that it belongs on the we-want list
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: I did not specify south africa. If I recall davout was off the gold coast
BingoBoingo: asciilifeform: It was the fluffypony monero guy, he's introduced in a Trilema. 2013-ish if I remember
BingoBoingo: davout: I'm wondering if an progress was made finding Francophone datacenters outside France, preferaby in the heart of the dark continent ☟︎
asciilifeform: unless, i suppose, you are hruschev, and your travel is always by means of own battleship, it is flatly stupid to keep seekritz in places nosy idjits in foreign ports can easily get to, e.g. civilian baggage
mircea_popescu: and yes "that's not what i wanted to hear", but the fucking problem with going "lalalaican'thearyou" for 50 years is that when you finally quit it and listen it'll sound exactly like "too late, mr shcmucktard"
asciilifeform: and where exactly does peasant own ? i'd like to buy a plane ticket...
mircea_popescu: well, europe. i dun recall, uk, ro, etc.
mircea_popescu: "your honor, i'm smarter than the inca, natch" ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: eh i'd give fiddybux for it. of lunch money. just so that the next day ALL the winblows exes will format c:
mircea_popescu: i suspect you know the original.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform btw, for your romanian studies, i propose http://trilema.com/2010/oda-la-moartea-unei-pisici-preaiubite-inecata-intr-o-covata-de-carasi/
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-09-27#1717813 << i doubt anyone'd notice if facebook was down for two weeks, either. at this point, 100% of the fiat "traffic" is simply bots. they will happily http://trilema.com/2015/facebook-sends-traffic11eleven/ until the end of times. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-27 11:48 davout: BingoBoingo: I r alive
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: idea was, to automate, make it wholly mechanical part of moving shitbox providers on arbitrarily short notice (i.e. 0 notice to the one who's being ditched until ~after~ you've moved the contents)
ben_vulpes: myeah, i hear ya
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: what i meant is, he likely had, say, 5k, to turn into 50; if had 10 - would turn to 100 etc
ben_vulpes: perhaps 50k is the most one can hope to make on a short term 100% leveraged play in the states; i've no idea what his relationship with the brokerage was like but he *had* to have had a margin account, it would be an offense to the oldladyempire if someone didn't
asciilifeform: ( though it seems like a dire violation of http://btcbase.org/log/2015-06-10#1158785 principle. i've nfi ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-09-27 05:36 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what was the soviet term for the "moment of realisation" that sovietism is actually a lie ? i forget
jurov: i had in mind old cvs/svn repos, not tarballs. i doubt they could competently infect these
shinohai: RagnarDanneskjol: I know who you are, soul of Ragnar Lodbrok come back to haunt us on Woden's day. Well ye won't be conquering no earldoms here, no Sir!
shinohai: Shit I find all the good stuff when qntra is no more http://archive.is/7ufZx
davout: BingoBoingo: I r alive ☟︎
BingoBoingo: <trinque> BingoBoingo: and hey, why don't you script a qntra deploy and blast it on a new VPS every other week? << A few reasons: 1. I r idiot, 2. Database updating constantly which means need box and not VPS rapehole, 3. This points to Republican ISP needed or no nice things
trinque: rough approximation of the hypertext dht thing I'm going to conjure, really.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform what was the soviet term for the "moment of realisation" that sovietism is actually a lie ? i forget ☟︎
asciilifeform: but i already described this, earlier.
trinque: hm, totally possible, just enumerating the reasonable thing's I'd considered on the subj
trinque: *guy I wrote
asciilifeform: i like the twist end.
trinque: I operate under the assumption that I'm going to lose every box that isn't in my house, and probably also those
trinque: I don't expect that I'm moving back
trinque: US central, I should say.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> granted mircea_popescu will prolly add 'this is of course only win for the bull, not for the farmer' but i've never been the farmer. can only add pov of bull. << Is it pov of contemporary bull if you haven't lost count of prostate shocks delivered by farmer for the sake of knocking up distant dairy with veal