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asciilifeform was largely in lurk mode in those days, did not often presume to have what's worth saying.
asciilifeform: he outlived me there by considerable time.
mircea_popescu: you and naggum might've been the only ones left by then
asciilifeform: in the last days of the good old days, it was actually pretty common, in asciilifeform's recollection.
asciilifeform: apparently there were even multiple versions of the thing, i had nfi.
asciilifeform: iirc it was a plain reed-solomon tho, not newfangled luby
asciilifeform: where you only needed e.g. 30 of 36 .rxx etc to magick the whole thing back into shape
asciilifeform: oh hey remember the luby-style usenet archiver thing
mircea_popescu: (if anyone wonders why all those r00 r01 etc slices back in the day)
asciilifeform: soon enuff we're back to alt.binaries lol
asciilifeform: also suffers from practical gnarl -- say the session gets thrown. how many times is the bot to retry upload.
mircea_popescu: what can i tell you.
asciilifeform: this is prolly the most practical scheme suggested, to date, for this. but still feels heavy.
mircea_popescu: you don't even have to ascii armor, if that bothers you.
asciilifeform: 7 folx want to load, each needs a, what, 4GB+ buffer (if turd is 1GB)
mircea_popescu: because www server will attempt to feed any clients at any time
mircea_popescu: WAY the fuck cheaper than alternative.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform like this you can do it on an as-available basis.
asciilifeform: right, it'd work in principle. but costly on transmitter end.
mircea_popescu: you "shit-item-5 ; shit-item-6 ; shit-item-7" > tar > gpg -aer pubkey > joe.ftp.server
mircea_popescu: you got collection-of-shit 1 throught 99. joe wants shit-item-5-6-7. joe sends !Z http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/12345/?raw=true wherein is found "shit-item-5 ; shit-item-6 ; shit-item-7 ; pubkey"
asciilifeform: ( of much moar, in fact, than $file-length, cuz gpg is retarded )
asciilifeform: pretty heavy on the serving end, tho, needs scratch buffer of $file-length per each req.
mircea_popescu: per tarball, w/e.
asciilifeform: i suppose that'd work ( tho still no crypto )
mircea_popescu: the correct way is reverse : take ~ftp login~, dump it in there.
asciilifeform: a reasonably-mechanized process for distributing warez to one's l1/l2 might be useful, but i haven't yet devised one that dun break in annoying ways in the field.
asciilifeform: i have a half-written bot that takes a deedbot-style gpg wot decrypt and puts out a single-use emulated ftp login thing. but it is not alive, because gnarly in practice ( if single-shot, resumes dunwork; and no crypto, and prolly this is solvable but i dun have currently the time budget for massaging it )
mircea_popescu: when joe blow did enough for you that it overwhelms the headache, he can has.
mircea_popescu: so asker must be this tall to ride.
asciilifeform: this also. tho it is headachy to arrange in practice.
mircea_popescu: nothing wrong with "here's a list of things you can have ~by request~ in my castle"
asciilifeform: it costs real moneyz to throw up GBs.
asciilifeform: this is a fundamental problem with throwing up warez for 'public'. how to justify to self, the bird feeder.
mircea_popescu: when realised that i do not like the "community" enough to pump 1k/mo into it or anything.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wasn't a tracker, just a large box with the entire collection of trilema reviewed films. on for a year or so, but turned it off recently.
asciilifeform: possibly dun need torrents after all. ( it is nao smaller than those jpegs from last wk. )
asciilifeform: lol holySHIT is gzip inefficient for disk snapshots. '7zip' gets it down to 256MB !
asciilifeform: ( solid state gadget that replaces the ancient whining hdd in the thing )
asciilifeform: it aint that much good without the iron, but i would like the thing publicly gettable, given as i also baked a 'scsi2sd' config that eats the thing ☟︎
asciilifeform: i ask because i have a 9GB disk image from that bolix 'macivory' ( recorded using the 'alpha' from earlier thrd ) but am reluctant to simply put on dulap, soaking up bw for errybody
asciilifeform: unrelatedly : hey mircea_popescu , didja have a torrent tracker ? i seem to recall in the log ( tho cannot find. ) or was it an in-house thingie strictly.
mod6: Yeah, I get the pizarro ip for both A and MX records. Just in case, I have posted the clearsigned report to my website for viewing: http://mod6.net/2018/December/31/btcf_address_201812.txt
BingoBoingo: dig shows the MX pointed at the foundation's Pizarro box from here
jurov: diana_coman: really, let's seriously troubleshoot this. if you aren't using hosts file, can you please paste the output of: dig therealbitcoin.org and: dig MX therealbitcoin.org
asciilifeform: ( iirc diana_coman was the only 1 afflicted )
asciilifeform: jurov: this is entirely possible. lessee what diana_coman says when wakes up.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 22:01 asciilifeform: jurov: then mystery deepens . can you offer an explanation for http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884046 ?
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/qntra-sqntr-december-2018-statement/ << Trilema -- Qntra (S.QNTR) December 2018 Statement
asciilifeform: ( in fact, if anyffing -- encouraged, the type safety makes it less immediately lethal than otherwise would be )
mircea_popescu: i suppose the first step in the wonderful world of language is the kid's "what incantations do" rather than "what does this mean". takes a considerable time exposed to "she is your genie, ask what you will, she'll produce it" sorta situation for the former to mutate into the latter, "what the fuck am i asking these genies to do here!"
asciilifeform: incidentally i'll add that most published heathen ada proggies use c-style heapism, it isn't banned by the lang per se.
asciilifeform: c programmers who 'stop to think about what it means' tend to go insane and gouge out own eyes etc. so not much experience of this in the field.
mircea_popescu: memory management in c is one of the weirdest things. this is not directly obvious first off, but if you stop to think about what you're saying ~actually means~ it's a guaranteed starseeing moment.
asciilifeform: Mocky collected the whole, iirc, set, i'ma link ftr to http://mocky.org/Log-Reference-Why-Ada/ .
a111: Logged on 2017-05-26 18:10 asciilifeform: for instance, the almost ubiquitous c-ism, of creating a pointer (ada 'access') variable on a procedure's local (stack) and passing it to something -- anything -- is illegal
a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 20:00 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884103 << i think the logs reflect my thinking similarily at first ; but kinda dropped it also.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884225 << ada is surrounded by a kind of roman 'sudes' fort , consisting of 'why the fuck does it make me do this', kills 99+% of maggots on the spot. at least that's my hypothesis re why the thing remains usable ~40 yrs after first made, unlike e.g. unix ☝︎
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/01/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-november-and-december-1715-part-iii/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of November and December, 1715 - Part III.
asciilifeform: why the everliving fuck would anyone ever see 'Generated by cloudfront (CloudFront)' from that thing ??
asciilifeform: jurov: then mystery deepens . can you offer an explanation for http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884046 ? ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 14:59 asciilifeform: diana_coman: looks like ml not yet moved to pizarro, it's still hosted wherever it was that jurov had it
jurov: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884050 << asciilifeform next time please spend few precious seconds to actually check A and MX records. No, it's not on lulazon anymore. ☝︎
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/what-is-meant-by-ai/ << Trilema -- What is meant by AI ?
a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 17:15 asciilifeform: when i started with adaism, i initially found the preservation of indexing in array-slices annoying. but then saw the wisdom, it whips programmer into having a much firmer grasp of wtf he is doing.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884103 << i think the logs reflect my thinking similarily at first ; but kinda dropped it also. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: time exists in the mind.
mircea_popescu: Mocky we're in the same time distortion field. i recall people dead for centuries as if we just interrupted a coffee conversation days ago ; i forgot idiots i met yesterday as if milennia had passed.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-03 19:18 asciilifeform: stratum: y'know, the money argument dun hold water -- a new 'ipnoje' actually costs moar than ~several~ entirely usable pc
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884196 << the point isn't the "monetary" cost, they have 0 money anyway. the point is the intellectual cost -- they're monkeys, they barely got enough brainpower to cluck at the shiny, what computer, what computers. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 19:57 mircea_popescu: why is it that this church is notable in spite of not having a feedbot ?
mircea_popescu: poor danielpbarron, i'm starting to understand his problem : specifically because http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881534 ie much lower intellectual bar, it is actually WAY THE FUCK EASIER to sell his church than the republic, to the sort of random interneteer. memory vs thought, hands down easier to memorize than structure the world. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: and "most irc people" is an undefined symbol. there's the lordship and absolutely nothing else. there's no "irc people".
mircea_popescu: random schmuckette futzing with her phone "losing" her nudes is of no consequence, she is a party favour anyway, whether she knows this or not.
mircea_popescu: stratum we are only interested in destroying the capacity of posturing of the "state actor" known asw the usg.
danielpbarron: i did not tell him to join, and i have given up on reaching that crowd
Mocky: unrelatedly, it's strange time distortion to be a newb and compress the reading of back #trilema & #ba logs into 8 months and then see http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-03#1884140 and realize the fella (and plenty others fresh in the mind) hasn't even spoken here for a year ☝︎
asciilifeform: danielpbarron: i wonder if the fella knows just what's behind the door he's walked into.
asciilifeform: the appropriate tech 'for the billions' is prolly the ox-plow ( and with proviso that they turn into a moar manageable 'millions' )
asciilifeform: stratum: tech 'for the billions' remains a questionable proposition even in re 100 y.o. techs. 'the billions' still have trouble with not dropping running toaster in bathtub.
Mocky: are you an advocate on behalf of the billions?
stratum: If individuals want to communicate using heavily encrypted sneakernet to avoid NSA goons, that is certainly okay by me. But I don't see that happening for the billions any time soon. ☟︎
stratum: Right now, for the billions, I think it is probably better than nothing, just like easily popped household locks. ☟︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform: all you need is to buy/borrow/steal 1 ( and not even this, protocol itself is swiss cheese and regularly broken by amateurs without any need to steal privkeys from some derpistan )
asciilifeform: stratum: one doesn't even need to sit on hitler's throne to bypass sslism; typical idjit os comes with root certs from such shitholes as e.g. greece and latvia
asciilifeform: except where yer lock aint a lock at all, but instead is rather more similar to the plastic amulets 'boko haram' hands out to soldiers 'to stop bullets'
Mocky: more like the tsa luggage locks
stratum: I doubt any locksmith, who knows how easily they can be defeated, is arguing against locks for the average person, grandmas, and such. It seems like the argument against https from the likes of dpb is an argument of this type, in my opinion.
asciilifeform: stratum: y'know, the money argument dun hold water -- a new 'ipnoje' actually costs moar than ~several~ entirely usable pc ☟︎
stratum: Most people don't even have one "box" -- More and more browsing from their phones as their sole computing device, billions of them. I think there is a disconnect in what we're discussing: which is why I mention RMS and his helpers.
asciilifeform: stratum: so enlighten me, what's the logic -- you can't afford to plug in 2 boxes , but want to tell self stories at bedtime re 'secure anyway' ?
Mocky: also re bot, I do see the underlying problem that is revealed when someone says "oh hey, never thought of..."
stratum: If one can afford the money, time, and hassle, nothing.
asciilifeform: stratum: why wouldja need 'helper to print web sites' ?
asciilifeform: the notion pushed by reich where 'it is cheaper to only work against jackass' is fallacious, your cpu can bear the load.
stratum: Certainly, but one still has to survive among the internet places as they exist.. We cannot all be RMS and have a helper print out websites for us because we're paranoid. ☟︎
stratum: I think most IRC people would be more concerned with some random internet jackoff fucking with them than GCHQ.
stratum: It depends on ones threat model.
asciilifeform: stratum: given that the most active criminal is the nato reich itself, what exactly is the worth of pkiistic 'sekoority' where they have master key ?
stratum: In some cases, which do not involve a determined attacker or state actor, https can prevent man in the middle attacks, the capture of full browsing sessions, and, while unfortunately involving untrusted third party mega corporations tied to the security state, one can be slightly more assured you're talking to the actual website you intend to.