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asciilifeform: 'oh hey a bouncing ball, you wanted that shot too i assume?'

a111: Logged on 2017-10-12 14:33 jurov: dear shinohai et al.: i think it's as good time as any to learn to explicitly date the signed stuff, please. so that i don't have to muck with signature innards to keep track.

jurov: dear shinohai et al.: i think it's as good time as any to learn to explicitly date the signed stuff, please. so that i don't have to muck with signature innards to keep track. ☟︎☟︎

mod6: I did, but i took mine down a while ago.

asciilifeform: in other lulz, something closely resembling trb node on ex-dulap ( 46.166.165.30 ) still running... though i do not recommend it for any practical use

BingoBoingo: "I press the button, it shoots out beams and gives a speed" "But how do the beams give a speed" "They just do"

mircea_popescu: just had this 3kg apple pie come out of the oven so i have trouble feeling for radioshack-of-the-day

mircea_popescu: i thought they mostly sold overpriced japanese watches and bad kitchenware.

shinohai: "Maybe I'll have better luck in Romania!!!!" http://archive.is/QT0g2

shinohai: Awww, when I archived it, you cant see the spiffy grey pantsuit: http://archive.is/YYkLk

asciilifeform: american original has much funnier text, http://i.imgur.com/Occdk.jpg

BHopkins: I can confirm 100% chance of newb to PGP

mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo i dun think so ; tho it has happened before.

shinohai: Well see BingoBoingo, I figure its only a matter of time before they DO allow cookie sales and boys to wear brownie uniforms if they wish.

BingoBoingo: In other, lesser struggles in the republic: I now have to decide if I care enough to contest speeding ticket in Appelate court

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i guess it was decided that they have arses like anybody, ergo compatible

BHopkins: It just says "Get your OTP" and then gives me a key. What do I do with that key?

BHopkins: I draw the line at the dark web. bitcoin, PGP, what's next? :)

mircea_popescu: i'll rate you, which means you'll be able to self-voice so i don't have to keep patching it half hour at a time.

BHopkins: MP I have a PGP key now...

shinohai: Ah Yahoo .... I was able to upload a BEeF hook inside an ad there once, no one batted an eye.

BHopkins: @MP no PGP key, do I need one?

BHopkins: Don't be too judgmental of journalist "interns". I create some of those for our marketing purposes :)

mircea_popescu: BHopkins nah. i personally couldn't care less about "bad" things. for one thing, i've yet to meet the entity intelligent to say something meaningfully bad about me.

BHopkins: MP from what I understand, you're looking to clean up your search results?

BHopkins: I almost feel a little dirty not playing by the conventional rules of money :)

BHopkins: That's what CoinBase is telling me...I clicked the "Receive" in the BTC Wallet section

shinohai: I could payroll South American camhoes for a year on that lol

BHopkins: I think I did it right: 12taDFRdimNTHx1xoUkUZWj3nrE4js6LM6 ☟︎☟︎

BHopkins: I had to look up the current price, and the answer is yes :) ☟︎

BHopkins: Nope, no bitcoin yet for me. But I've worked with a few other companies in this industry over the years.

asciilifeform: i thought that described ~whole of www

BHopkins: I've worked in this vertical a few different times, along with other verticals that have similar issues.

BHopkins: I guess I'll he returns :)

shinohai: Fuck, I jinxed it

mircea_popescu: here's the gist of the problem : when rando, such as for instance bill lawsky, stands up and says "we made these rules" bla bla, nobody in those verticals springs up the obvious "what proof do you have". if i say "i destroyed ETH/BCH/whatever, and here's the proof" the same nobodies come up with contorted nonsense like "ok but what proof do you have your proof is proofing?!?!?"

BHopkins: I'm not interested in working with peon farmers :)

asciilifeform: i was about to say 'i've never heard of a zinx' but it was in linked item earlier

a111: Logged on 2017-10-11 16:41 asciilifeform: i dun buy the 'no one has proven rsa to be hard so it dun matter how to implement it, let's use wet noodles and dried shit' argument.

a111: Logged on 2017-07-08 03:49 asciilifeform: i just counted gpg 1.4.10 : 156,436 loc -- and that ain't counting the autoconf liquishit, or the libs it pulls in

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i run into these continuously

mircea_popescu: should i have said " how much dough the etsy chicks don't make" ?

asciilifeform: i thought 'etsy' et al were long ago colonized by folx farming out grunt labour to pakistani etc

mircea_popescu: the proper equivalent of "he has either x of q or y or p but not both" is equivalent to "i only use p, and he has an x but IT IS NEVER THE X HE NEEDS haha! take that bitch! murphy works for me!"

mircea_popescu: here's what you move to : "I have a Q and a P". here's the correct statement : "Of all the possibles that may exist, Q and P, I have both".

mircea_popescu: here's how you state the story : "I have a Q". here is the correct statement : "Of all the possible Q that could ever exist, I have Q, the one and sole and only."

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't care, it makes no diff.

asciilifeform: i'ma borrow method of apeloyee and post a pseudocode at some point, might become clearer.

mircea_popescu: what shall i do with this guy.

asciilifeform: 'every time i add two numbers i get diff answer; arithmetic IS BROKEN'

a111: Logged on 2017-10-11 14:25 phf: but at the same time it's handy strawman: ~web of trust~ is broken, because our take on it is a piece of shit. i thought that's some pantsuit pattern discussed elsewhere

mircea_popescu: and in other (lengthy) lulz : i cursed new girl with the old mpoe-pr curse, if you haven't guessed by now. the tardstalk this time is "black hat world", dedicated to "seo" and shit.

asciilifeform: i dun get it

asciilifeform: ftr i dun particularly like this style of mechanism. it is suggested solely as continuation of the theme from linked thread, where 'make best of a cpu-poor situation with existing algos'

asciilifeform: i dun buy the 'no one has proven rsa to be hard so it dun matter how to implement it, let's use wet noodles and dried shit' argument. ☟︎

mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i don't have the proof it is, but that's irrelevant. you don't have the proof IT ISNT.

asciilifeform: *i+1

asciilifeform: let's take however the variant where they all use same type of hash (e.g. keccak) but with independently FG-generated seeds. you still remove the i+i==H(i) known-relation problem.

asciilifeform: who said i had 1 much less n to offer with this recipe. i learn from the masters!11

mircea_popescu: i can't fucking find one. you want me to use n

mircea_popescu: i don't get it. so instead of one item with the above three problems, i now have three, and they're hashed together. so ?

asciilifeform: ( which you have if i+1 = H(i) )

a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 23:13 mircea_popescu: basically the scheme is, you rsa a random bitfield, then you expand that into as much otp as you want by doing recursively Fi = hash(bitfield + Fi-1). there's a limit on i, obviously, which can be set to 1.

asciilifeform: !~later tell mircea_popescu i had a thought re your http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-06#1722036 algo : instead of one stream generator, have N independent ones (each with own seed, and not necessarily all same hash fn) running in parallel, xor together. every rsagram changes a seed in ONE of these at a time. strength is bought by sending rsagrams moar often ☝︎

mircea_popescu: i wonder why what is, snort snort.

asciilifeform: for some reason folx always go around 'i will get rich'-ing and somehow never 'i will find my quicklime pit'

mircea_popescu: it's a good thing the human rights crowd informs us "everyone wants to be and is an individual", because from experience i'd never have arrived at the idea.

mircea_popescu: quite exactly, it's never futurism as the 1920s artistic blaseness. it's always "i will r entrepreneurize" or "i will marry well" or such, translated in the new paints.

mircea_popescu: phf just about same here. i particularily enjoy situations where the "group expert" in "new trends" brings bitcoin to the group. particularily if 20something female.

phf: (ipoteka is a ru word by way of greece for mortgage, i've not heard it before when growing up, but now at a certain age it's a main conversation subject/as well as advertisement, so i've been cracking up every time i hear it. i've been forcing it as a catch all term for "orc financial matters" to the confused looks of my ru friends)

phf: every single 'civilian' conversation in ru i had with friends and friends of friends at some point had bitcoin brought up, and obviously not coming from me. in fact not even as part of "talking technology" track

asciilifeform: i saw a little reportage, it was interestingly the ~exact same spamcarnival as seen prev in usa & elsewhere. oddly ~no homegrown orc scamola .

mircea_popescu: i guess they don't know what cyprus is huh.

asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i have spamlulz to raise to that, http://wotpaste.cascadianhacker.com/pastes/wlEbG/?raw=true

phf: oh, man, i've been typing TeX yesterday, so the quotes got stuck

phf: but at the same time it's handy strawman: ~web of trust~ is broken, because our take on it is a piece of shit. i thought that's some pantsuit pattern discussed elsewhere ☟︎

davout: yeah, i couldn't resist

BingoBoingo: mircea_popescu: Ah, cool. I followed up with a request for quotes on 1 and 3 cabinets anyways.

ccmtacks: BingoBoingo, I totally agree. I firstly tried to figure out how all of this works, that is why I've been silent

ccmtacks: sorry asciilifeform, I'm actually waiting for mircea_popescu to get back, but it seems that he fell asleep

asciilifeform: i personally don't need silent remoras for anything.

asciilifeform: ccmtacks: if you don't speak in next few hrs, i'll unrate

shinohai: I glanced at my screen and read "cumtacks"

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: that's nuffin, i got one that claimed to be 'the only dc accredited to maximal nsa level' or somesuch

asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: i have enough disqualifieds i can eat them with my arse

asciilifeform: gotta be the most frustrating item i've yet attempted here. like climbing a vertical glass wall greased with vaseline.

mircea_popescu: i like that you merge txn into one, btw.

trinque: now, I do have subscriptions planned for the bot.

trinque: trb wallet is a piece of shit. I have yet to build a full replacement, and that's going to take a while.

mircea_popescu: i gotta then "hey, i paid, it was not credited, here's the details" bla bla.

mircea_popescu: suppose i'm buying 30 bux worth of dildos online. me : "do you take btc ?" "sure". turns out it's via mycelium/bitpay/coinbase, and the above applies.

trinque: I don't ever let keys touch an internet connected box

trinque: if doing it on chain, we're doing the hot wallet thing and I'm sitting around waiting to lose coin

mircea_popescu: trinque i very much dun think so. not in the feed atm, and never saw such before.

BingoBoingo: So, California wine country is burning and I am disappoint that no one is making a connection between that and antifa terrorism against the percieved white bourgeoisie "exploiting" brown labor

lobbesbot: Logged on 2017-10-10 19:54:45: <danielpbarron> what's the procedure for that? you create invoice and i respond?

asciilifeform: we have a different wasp here, no more than half of this size, but one time i personally witnesses the seemingly impossible -- it rose up after stomped on with boot, and flew as if nothing happened

mircea_popescu: there's these hydrocephalic ants, i kid you not, peasized heads atop tiny ant bodies

mircea_popescu: biodiversidad, i tell you. the shit they got here...