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asciilifeform: because what's the alternative.
asciilifeform: apple wouldn't take it back.
asciilifeform: the madness of the terminally bored is key to understanding much of what we spoke of here.
gabriel_laddel: Also, I /don't like/ the macbook retina, fancy as it may be
gabriel_laddel: Eh, perhaps I'm strange, but these things don't tickle me in the right places. Mountains of coke? Fun, surely, but it gets boring after a while... ☟︎
asciilifeform: why ru oligarchs buy british sport teams, without giving a damn whether it wins or loses, etc
asciilifeform: but also a certain amount of 'sultan has infinite money, why shouldn't he sit down on a toilet of monocrystalline diamond, the costlier and more useless - the better'
gabriel_laddel: The things these VCs fund are simply /strange/ ☟︎
gabriel_laddel: "why funded and by whom ?" << I really can't figure this out, it's like the relationship the USG club have with the Saudis. *mumble mumble* ... little boys... *mumble mumble*
asciilifeform: (of which, because of the braindamaged design, there is an inexhaustible amount)
gabriel_laddel: I don't think it's a scam exactly... what they want is for nothing to change, and he provided it. :/
asciilifeform: hence precious little time left over for actual work
assbot: #021 - The Strip From Hell ... ( http://bit.ly/1DnmvPY )
asciilifeform: but as i gather the urbit folks are occupied primarily with pitching just this elaborate scam on the vc circuit
asciilifeform: now, no one is at risk for having to do web dev in it
gabriel_laddel: urbit it teh lameness
asciilifeform: incidentally - and i am quite sure that mr mold would disagree - but he went to the precise place where i proclaimed he is doomed to go.
asciilifeform tries to recall what that was about
gabriel_laddel: "Where do you want to go today?" To a Sharashka or garden-variety GULAG? Largely a matter of taste (and luck.)
gabriel_laddel: I hope you like carving toys (or demunging databases) for Mr. Altman and his ilk. Because that is what we'll both be doing soon enough. If permitted to live...
gabriel_laddel: Has anyone considered the possibility that the living dead are kept around, safe from the Soilent Green pot, encouraged to be fruitful and multiply, etc. precisely to help make arbeit macht frei ever so slowly more palatable to the remaining humans?
gabriel_laddel: Could we instead ask for concertina wire, mine fields, and automatic turrets separating the human beings - with their robotic plenty - from the zombies, with their decay and hunger for flesh?
gabriel_laddel: Who gets to become a "delicate aristocrat," dodging carving duty, and why?
gabriel_laddel: In an "arbeit macht frei" world, will you - in particular - be permitted to busy yourself with writing unorthodox operating systems - or, for that matter, articles like this one? Or with carving wooden toys?
gabriel_laddel: I think this "Stanislav Datskovskiy" guy has the right idea though...
gabriel_laddel: I've listened to my friends talk about their sibling's lives at google. They make (nominally) lots of money, but it all is consumed by the costs of living.
assbot: Logged on 06-04-2014 05:30:22; asciilifeform: one man's 300k is not the same as another's
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=06-04-2014#607098 << relevant classic thread ☝︎
asciilifeform: the hell they lived in from day one was always amusing
gabriel_laddel: the hell that googlers live in now is amusing
asciilifeform: outfits such as 'google', i'm told, are experimenting with bringing back the factory dormitory. which would have a bright future in usa, if there were any factories
asciilifeform: gabriel_laddel: voluntary (nominally) for the adults, yes
assbot: Logged on 13-11-2014 05:31:28; asciilifeform: 'Astolphe de Custine was brought up for a time by a faithful servant, living in penury with her in the only room of the Custine home that had not been looted and sealed off by Jacobin zealots and thieves.'
gabriel_laddel: also the kibbutz is a voluntary arrangement afaik
gabriel_laddel: Incidentally, a friend of mine from Romania told me a story about what happened to his family's house during the communist revolution: It was seized, concrete was poured on the (expensive hardwood!) floors after it was stripped of any valuables.
asciilifeform: not merely park their arses there
asciilifeform: the practical difference is that folks -work- at a kolhoz
asciilifeform: rather than straight cynical meat warehouse
asciilifeform: if their luck holds.
asciilifeform: these folks are being prepared, by the flats far more so than anything in the lecture halls, for how the rest of their lives will be lived.
asciilifeform: (the on-campus housing is packed to the gunnels)
asciilifeform: these will be inhabited, incidentally, by chumps feeding the 'college' chumpatron
asciilifeform: just a few hrs ago i drove past a street where they were knocking down, as we speak, sixteen or so blocks of rental houses
asciilifeform: (see linked thread)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: where i live, the rental racket is being rapidly rolled up by mega-conglomerates who specialize in building titanic blocks of communal flats
asciilifeform: 'gravy' in trad. engl. i think.
ben_vulpes: i'm sure there's some fatalistic reasoning against buying property and renting it out in this scenario
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: the rentiers are swimming 'in chocolate' and happier than could ever wish
assbot: Logged on 29-01-2015 04:09:15; asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the town where i live is being slowly converted into gigantic sov-style communal flats (officially, 'student housing', in practice - they will live their whole lives therein)
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=29-01-2015#996757 << obligatory thread ☝︎
ben_vulpes: does the political power du jour really go so far as to entirely alienate the rentiers?
ben_vulpes: how do rentals fare in this model?
asciilifeform: when it becomes a question of physical difficulty in obtaining any other way, or even prior - a symbolic but tasty bone thrown to folks who hate you for what you are - the confiscations.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: to round off the earlier thread, house will be confiscated a) ahead of schedule, if you get lucky b) when your local real estate racket's ability to crank out drywall, pour cement, assemble the thing is outpaced by, e.g., flood of $refugees from $pisshole who 'deserve' your house and your neighbour's ☟︎
asciilifeform: this is actually a thing
asciilifeform: 'So far there has been only one issue with the text content: publishing of drug production recipes is illegal in Russia, so we received a request from the government agency to hide them from visitors from Russia (otherwise they would block the whole site). Visitors from other countries can see those pages.'
asciilifeform: what was this
mircea_popescu: btw i sent the archive.today guy a note, if he shows up him
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 23:38:48; ben_vulpes: i'm interested in the survivor's tale. taking notes on how to get the least fucked.
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2015#1036352 << keep a harem, of women that have no children, no pity and can shoot. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: so take yer flunkie an' dangle.
mircea_popescu: you ain't bought a license to kill bookies, and today i ain't sellin' any. ☟︎
asciilifeform: was that the one where 'i'm not selling a license to shoot bookies today'
mircea_popescu: put it at the top, tis great.
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mircea_popescu: you ever seen that film ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: translators... armenian << actually usg translator racket is - traditionally - ultra-lucrative. complete with own boom'n'bust cycles
assbot: Logged on 28-02-2015 23:24:13; asciilifeform: though folks who differ from above portrait solely in the have-money part (e.g. shrem) are also a favourite prey animal
mircea_popescu: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=28-02-2015#1036312 << "we only pick fighters we know we can put the fear of god in". ☝︎
asciilifeform: but what if one of the ingredients went missing. or hiccuped.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: and the factory churns on, because the trucks carrying gypsum come on schedule, the roughnecks show up, etc
mircea_popescu: <asciilifeform> probably 'name own price' << yeah, right. usg would rather have google translated material by some crafty armenian at "pay grade" than pay what competent guy asks.
asciilifeform: when shiva hand or two frees up for a spell
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i'll do that one next, quite possibly
asciilifeform: but then, one time after sundown, saw the lights
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can read russian poetry a lot better once someone's conveniently done 99% of the work, found the equivalents, set out the rhyming scheme etc
asciilifeform: first few times i walked past it, was convinced that it was abandoned
asciilifeform: dingiest, most run-down industrial landscape one could hope to meet
asciilifeform: just as you might think, while driving car, that you might run out of fuel, but not out of air
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: basic observation (by no means mine! or even solely orlov's) is that collapse comes 'in fits.' for example, at the moment it did not occur to you to think that obtaining drywall or labourers to knock together a 'shitboard' house, could ever be problematic
asciilifeform: ^ parts 2 and 3 in same thread below there.
asciilifeform: if you like dead tree, it's 'reinventing collapse', 'hold your applause', and 'the five stages of collapse' in that order.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: then read mr o's 'post-soviet lessons' at the very least
ben_vulpes: i'm interested in the survivor's tale. taking notes on how to get the least fucked. ☟︎
asciilifeform: he devotes a few pages to them.
asciilifeform: (the folks who got the worst of it, are not here and are certainly not writing books in engl.)
ben_vulpes: is orlov's account of the soviet collapse halfway accurate?
asciilifeform: and things turn openly soviet
asciilifeform: when it is the principal - the physical shortages begin
asciilifeform: basic hypothesis here: the machine is still burning fat, rather than own muscle, while what is being stolen is the surplus
ben_vulpes: tax credits for sales to favorite sons.
ben_vulpes: why go through the trouble of confiscating, when again, funds for disbursement to the 'blessed poor' can be routed to the homebuilders?
ben_vulpes: even then, there's miles of pressed shitboard that can yet be erected.
ben_vulpes: what, then?
ben_vulpes: confiscation isn't likely to compare with taxes pulled in from payrol..
asciilifeform: for engine to run.
asciilifeform: gotta have some actual petrol in that water
asciilifeform: answer is that the machine doesn't work if run on 100% bzollar
ben_vulpes: politically useful. see the routine audits of whoever's not in power.
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: may as well ask, why tax