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phf`: mircea_popescu: if you're implying that my plan for colo was to ~hire~ people ~from~ colocation facility to do
a sensitive operation like hard drive replacement, then i can't even! :)
mircea_popescu: phf` that wouldn't be
a problem in principle. just has to be done.
phf`: i suspect that with proper infra we can overnight whatever we want. but
a proper infra in this case might just be
a corporation in russia,
a corporation in u.s.,
a business account with fedhl, etc.
mircea_popescu: i don't expect overnighting is the point. what's the point is that there's little difference between
a colo you email to and run of the mill "dedicated servers" hosting.
mircea_popescu: phf` well, strawman came from trying to discuss
a rather unconstrained by actual data universe of possibilities.
mircea_popescu: so in this sense : an unmanned operation behind
a maybe-porous wall is not in any sense useful.
☟︎ phf`: i've no idea where that straw man came from. shipping things from u.s. to russia is tricky, but everything else is inherent in the problem.
a ~colo~ in russia only makes sense if i also can somehow facilitate trusted upkeep. whether or not we can overnight
a hard drive isn't going to make
a difference in that case
mircea_popescu: on the other hand, this "your raid needs new hdds hurr" thing is not flying. i don't need to "hire"
a "colo" for them to re-do the whole cherryservers bs for me, now do i.
mircea_popescu: unless we have
a ~trusted~ engineer on the actual ground there, we will be shipping from wherever it is convenient to ship. but items originate with us, not with randos.
phf`: so we're explicitly shipping boxes from asciilifeform's home lab to
a colo?
phf`: mircea_popescu: that's understandable. but also we're and what we're shipping. e.g. hard drives can be purchased and replaced on the ground. it's
a colo, ~someone~ will have to do
a replacement and it's necessarily not going to be the facility
mircea_popescu: but there is
a huge difference between intelligent sovereignity and soviet idiocy.
mircea_popescu: phf` i am speculating. but there must be
a way to get machiens there for it to work.
mircea_popescu: it's
a ddos vector dood. i'm not paying to get
a rack so that enemy has
a method to burn my engineer work hours. wtf.
mircea_popescu: what, and fly every time
a computer needs
a new buttplug ?
mircea_popescu: and their historical hallucinations of sovereignity etc do promise
a lot of idiocy in that vein.
mircea_popescu: i can't imagine the country actually works without some kind of such service though. i mean really, how do yo uget
a wrench, walk to factory ?
phf`: i suspect there's postal offices, "yandex package" and also some kind of baygun delivery service that can overnight from
a chinese factory
phf`: are the servers sitting at vendors ready to ship to
a destination, also is it going to go proper shipping container or through
a consumer service? latter doesn't work reliably in russia and is generally discouraged
mircea_popescu: or rather, that's why normal people don't pick
a hill in the midle of the jungle to plop down servers on.
phf`: well, in this case this is equivalent of sitting on the outside pipeline. everything else is
a hop away, though the guys i was talking to sit on various short fibers from the facility
phf`: the place to be is of course
http://www.mmts9.ru they do have 1/2 rack but i haven't tried them, since wasn't sure about our requirements. they can even get you
a personal cage. antenna placement on the rooftop so we can put
a microwave relay, the works :p
mircea_popescu: anyone inclined to go "oh i'd have done
a much better job" after any particular doing is going to find himself buried under
a thick wall of "why the fuck didn't you DO IT then!".
mircea_popescu: the more of
a chain is wot-illuminated, the better link control.
phf`: mircea_popescu: right, i figured paying is not going to be
a problem, either directly with btc or in the format that you've described. finding
a reliable colo, getting
a number down. unfortunately i don't have
a good feel for russian colo space yet, and people i talked to while happy with their colos didn't necessarily have tmsr demands.
ben_vulpes: i wrote
a "hey tmsr, what would you use
a cn embassy for" draft, which you saw, but since then i opened
a line of conversation with
a meatwot gentleman on the ground in cn who's working with me on finding dcs in chengdu and beijing in which i can lease
a rack. "embassy chick" not at the forefront of these discussions because republican state of emergency.
mircea_popescu: phf` so the question is very specifically, what do they take, and how do we sort it out ; it's in no case
a "let's filter out whoever doesn't take bitcoins"
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes i recall mod6 sending me
a proposed draft for something at some point, but also weeks ago.
mircea_popescu: phf` i don't specifically care what they take ; but whatever it is they take, we'll have to figure out
a process.
phf`: there's
a bitcoin craze in russia right now (i.e. talk shows on t.v. discussing bitcoin as investment platform. dorky former FIDO node administrators talking about bitcoin mining on
a rig in their apartments, etc.) so i wouldn't be surprised if i can find
a colo that takes bitcoins. i haven't noticed one yet though
phf`: mircea_popescu: i'll look into it. it would be helpful to know how many Us we'll be putting upfront, but i'll look at
a rack. also i've no idea what kind of traffic requirements something like eulora or phuctor have.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 18:18 mircea_popescu: there's seemingly
a lot of distance from this to 42u, but once the chinese woman tbf is hiring (is it ? mod6 ? ben_vulpes ? what's incremental from
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-21#1688633 discussion ?) starts hitting the hosting forums with offers...
phf`: not home, and i also didn't have time to process the information in detail yet, but i piped in since there was conversation. depends on what we want, baseline avg 3000 rub/mo $50 to put
a 1u rack, with
a 100mbit line, 300W. line is typically not metered, but also not guaranteed. then depends on our needs, an unmetered guaranteed 100 mbit line will cost another ~~$100 mo (to 1gbit around ~$500), plus whatever over cap on power usage.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 18:10 phf: there's curiously
a lot of protests in d.c., with very well designed posters: artistic variations on the clenched fist, nice typefaces, the works.
mircea_popescu:
http://btcbase.org/log/2017-10-06#1721786 << this, fwiw, isn't even the giveaway it used to be. i personally supervised the release of piles upon piles of posters in us university campuses, for
a very modicum costs. people off fiver just print what you give them, and put it up. nothing keeps you from having them print something decent, and with the abundance of "kids who fucked around with adobe illustrator instead of doing t
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2017-07-21 18:42 mircea_popescu: is this something the foundation may maybe consider ? open us an embassy in beijing, hire
a chick to sit there 4 hours/day or such ?
mircea_popescu: on the home front : we clearly need
a box for phuctor, i will also want
a box for eulora ; there's also need for
a third box for general purpose bitcoining/qntra/etc. that's three, plus whatever anyone else wants to add. iirc we also got 3 box servers ready to fly out.
phf: there's curiously
a lot of protests in d.c., with very well designed posters: artistic variations on the clenched fist, nice typefaces, the works.
☟︎ phf: i've catching up with the going ons in d.c. since i came back, so have
a bit of low bandwidth at the moment. should free up in
a week or so
phf: i've not had time to get
a corporation going this time around (mostly i need to figure out what the tax structure is going to be), but i'll be going back in
a couple of months.
phf: i've talked to
a handful of 1 hop from mmtsm9 collocation facilities in moscows, and they can do 1u or rack. i also have
a trusted non-wot who can oversee or handle the installation. if we're doing
a rack, and "worse ways to waste money" me can try and go straight for mmtsm9 (which is rostelekom's main internet relay, i.e. local web providers, like telcos etc put their equipment there)
mircea_popescu: you know the above ru may well be
a case of "we don't deal with weirdos trying to get 1u for 1mo"
trinque: will there be additional space in the rack to rent, or must rent
a machine?
mircea_popescu: we're supposed to think he's respectable because he was purportedly inactive in EXACTLY the same manner we'd have been supposed to think him respectable for being active, in the same place
a century prior.
mircea_popescu: anyway, consider asciilifeform : dood starts firing at 10pm, swat makes it in (as
a "jumble", even) at 11:20.
a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 13:55 diana_coman: hi mod6, I've set up
a public node running vanilla trb, at 103.36.92.112; it's still getting up to date so probably not of much use yet but it's meant to stay as it is anyway (it's at ~260k atm)
diana_coman: hi mod6, I've set up
a public node running vanilla trb, at 103.36.92.112; it's still getting up to date so probably not of much use yet but it's meant to stay as it is anyway (it's at ~260k atm)
☟︎ Framedragger: yeah i think they have
a minimum VAT fee + royal mail fee, and then the VAT increases after some threshold of declared value or somesuch. or, increased fees / inflation...
diana_coman: I think the only sort of unclear thing is why the difference (mine was
a bit higher) but it's probably correlated to value of package I suppose or something
mircea_popescu: custodian-american sure as fuck has
a certain ring to it, huh.
mircea_popescu: btw, is that the new "african american" pc term ? i seem to recall chapelle making
a big deal out of wanting to be called
a "custodian" in one of those hennifer-lopez level horrifyingly bad flicks he keeps churning out.
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2017-10-06 02:53 BingoBoingo: In other 12 hour sagas "The remains of
a possible fetus were discovered by
a custodian Wednesday in the bathroom of Wirth-Parks Middle School in Cahokia. The coroner arrived at the scene shortly after 8:30 p.m. and carried
a small, covered box into the school." << "‘Fetal remains’ found in school bathroom actually
a used feminine hygiene pad"
mircea_popescu: in other news, HOLY SHIT has vegas gone down. seriously, that's how the rug and curtains of
a "multi-millionaire"'s suite look like, in 2017 ?
BingoBoingo: Foreigner, in
a language which apparently features
a high degree of mutual intelligibility in its region
BingoBoingo: In other 12 hour sagas "The remains of
a possible fetus were discovered by
a custodian Wednesday in the bathroom of Wirth-Parks Middle School in Cahokia. The coroner arrived at the scene shortly after 8:30 p.m. and carried
a small, covered box into the school." << "‘Fetal remains’ found in school bathroom actually
a used feminine hygiene pad"
☟︎ BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> ran
a fake miner farm scam fore
a while in iirc 2013 << Perhaps something that early but mostly 2014 thing. Complete collapse happened between Xmas and New Years
a111: Logged on 2017-10-05 19:55 BingoBoingo: ethnic enclaves, they never fail to put on
a smile and admire everything Asian. Without the Asian industriousness and food, the Westerners will just be cave people just like their cave-dwelling ancestors not too long ago. One has to wonder why didn’t the Mongol overlords finish colonizing these Westerners and turned them into proper Asians. In the near future, the Chinese will just do that because the spineless lazy Westerners have gr
a111: Logged on 2017-10-05 19:50 apeloyee: on what planet gcd(
a,b)<>gcd(b,
a).
a111: Logged on 2017-10-05 19:54 apeloyee: grind until you did (2*bitness) steps. since remainder can't be more than
a/2.
apeloyee: you shift (b) left by max(0,CLZ(
a)-CLZ(b)-1) bits
BingoBoingo: ethnic enclaves, they never fail to put on
a smile and admire everything Asian. Without the Asian industriousness and food, the Westerners will just be cave people just like their cave-dwelling ancestors not too long ago. One has to wonder why didn’t the Mongol overlords finish colonizing these Westerners and turned them into proper Asians. In the near future, the Chinese will just do that because the spineless lazy Westerners have gr
☟︎ apeloyee: grind until you did (2*bitness) steps. since remainder can't be more than
a/2.
☟︎ apeloyee: you sort them at the biginning, using
a mux.
apeloyee: let
a, b be inputs;
a > b. shift b left so that it has one digit less than
a (using CLZ and secretshift), subtract b from
a repeatedly (at most thrice). b:= new result,
a:=b
apeloyee: but here's an O(n^2 log n), for
a large value of constant.
deedbot: asciilifeform updated rating of apeloyee from 1 to 2 <<
A - N*floor(
A*R/4^K) < 2*N
apeloyee: and in one side only, as obv can't be bigger than (
A/N)*4^K
apeloyee: which is equal to (
A/N - 1)*4^K