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mircea_popescu: in other news, ffa chapters are such a pleasure. it seems to me by now ffa has become such a largest-rock in the loperos garden... ☟︎
mircea_popescu: it strikes me as the height of strange that the balance sheet seems to paint a rosy picture whereas management communication is bleak and dour. these shouldn't contradict so, which is it ?
mircea_popescu: are these factual ? because ~both~ of these would be ~significant~ accomplishments, neh ? shareholders put in 11, if memory serves, so they realised a 60% roi over the interval ?
mircea_popescu: re http://pizarroisp.net/2019/01/ : leaving aside how annoying it is i can't select, and how it's the case trying to comment timesout : it seems the case pizarro ~made~ about 2 bitcoin during november, on the strength of its fiat-denominated holdings, taking it from being worth ~14 to being worth ~17 bitcoin ?
mircea_popescu: understand there's no such thing as "a liver". either it's the whole enchilada, liver, stomach, bone, muscles, skin, all the organs -- or else nothing at all.
mircea_popescu: you don't do that, you don't get anywhere.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo re ". Even when I manage a piece of evangelical Republican writing well received by the targeted community as measured by 'likes'... the reception warm reception is fuctionally empty." << the problem with this is the single-flower-spring issue. if you wish t go this route your measurements are in the dozens of accounts, spitting forth 100s of daily posts supporting each other across the whole "niche".
mircea_popescu: re http://bingology.net/2019/01/11/more-lessons-learned-pizarro-entering-2019/#selection-51.13-51.130 specifically (ie, "no hardware to sell"), is this actually the case ? i thought there was some overcapacity
lobbes: it would seem like BingoBoingo's and my own (albiet limited) experiences illustrate the futile and time-wasting nature of sifting through the meat pile by hand >> http://blog.lobbesblog.com/2018/07/sales-report-june-2018/
a111: Logged on 2019-01-14 00:17 BingoBoingo: My inclination was not to take the earlier committment for granted and underline the need to start working out a plan to achieve a positive ROI because I can't man alone it. Having sidechannel discussions outside this forum has been demonstrated -EV in the past. I am also wary of having strategic discussions outside of the channel where most of the republic's strategic and commercial competence sits.
lobbes: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-14#1886692 << I've been digesting your initial blawg post, and then that last thread. If I were to summarize what I'd read I'd say the short-term path is clear: start automating, and then reporting on metrics gathered. In the best case it seems the only way to generate enough sales. In the worst case you will have at least produced some meaningful statistics ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i'm kinda curious what comes out of this.
lobbes: ty. (my irssi is on teh uy1)
asciilifeform: also BingoBoingo plox to connect kvm hoses to selfsame box, and kvm power to mains, before you leave the cage.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: bios setup of that box also contains internal log, which will report if thermal trip. plox to examine.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to switch on with chassic open and determine if fans moving; and clean the latter. ty
mircea_popescu: we were just talking about that.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: the seals.
BingoBoingo putting on shoes. asciilifeform is there anything in particular you want me to check for beyond what I reported yesterday?
mircea_popescu: doesn't that look suspicious. ☟︎
feedbot: http://bimbo.club/2019/01/philosophical-transactions-for-the-months-of-april-may-and-june-1714-part-i/ << Bimbo.Club -- Philosophical Transactions. For the months of April, May and June, 1714 - Part I. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 23:46 mircea_popescu: so ok, if mod6 is committed to the prev 5btc and asciilifeform meets it, what exactly is pizarro's financial problem ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886685 << i'ma match mod6 . and then see to it that mircea_popescu's advices are actually followed, even if ( and it appears that yes if ) i gotta run the spamatrons with own hands & feet ☝︎
BingoBoingo: Anyways, I was feeling overdue for an appointment with the sharp rotating blades of the immutable machine.
BingoBoingo: My inclination was not to take the earlier committment for granted and underline the need to start working out a plan to achieve a positive ROI because I can't man alone it. Having sidechannel discussions outside this forum has been demonstrated -EV in the past. I am also wary of having strategic discussions outside of the channel where most of the republic's strategic and commercial competence sits. ☟︎
trinque: derps gotta talk to each other
trinque: then the question becomes why BingoBoingo is writing about death when capitalized through his perceived deadline
a111: Logged on 2015-02-21 01:19 mircea_popescu: "she's been going through 6-7k each month since autumn, but i get to go visit p diddy whenever i feel like it. it's a wash"
mircea_popescu: because i can see why someone'd go, "eh, whatever, thirty heathens to the cent, i don't even mind paying". as per ye even older http://btcbase.org/log/2015-02-21#1026639 ☝︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform if pizarro can say "talked to 985,553 heathens this month, here's the script, here's the results breakdown, here's the more interesting lulz/notions/ideas" it stands in a WAY the fuck better position than what trinque above perceived may well degenerate into a simple "gimme".
mircea_popescu: seems rather the problem is "how to spend tens of thousands of dollars with a roi" rather than "wut do april"
mircea_popescu: so ok, if mod6 is committed to the prev 5btc and asciilifeform meets it, what exactly is pizarro's financial problem ? ☟︎
mod6: Dinner time, bbl.
mod6: I'm still committed to the 5 BTC promised a while ago.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 22:41 asciilifeform: ftr , and in re whole thread, asciilifeform is entirely all ears re any thoughts trinque , diana_coman , mircea_popescu , et al, have re subj of what gotta be done in order to reach the black.
feedbot: http://trilema.com/2019/nu-mai-avem-titluri-de-voiaj-reveniti-miine/ << Trilema -- Nu mai avem titluri de voiaj ; reveniti miine!
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: mod6's nerves gave out and he went on sabbatical w/out yet having said whether, and to what extent, he will participate .
trinque: ah, that's the error then, I thought it was already the symmetric.
mircea_popescu: trinque i'm not that in touch, but iirc it was a good deal as symmetric.
mircea_popescu: anyways, is the situation here is that mod6 is quietly opting out while you're explicitly opting out of the refinancing you both were very excited to do a year or so ago, back when i was rebuffing ben_vulpes with "the only thing another cap round buys you is not havign to do any work for a longer interval" ?
trinque: what was it, they paid 3x for the symmetric?
trinque: mircea_popescu: most hosting is biased towards upload anyway, and there's ample capacity on that end to sell.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 22:42 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform enumerate the db of each forum touching upon internet, message each single user, report on results.
diana_coman: when is the time for http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886626 ? ☝︎
mircea_popescu: moreover that if your pet duck is eating its feet it's not gonna become a drake anytime soon.
BingoBoingo going to take a walk while the rain's stopped and try to unload some of this cortisol
mircea_popescu: yes, my thought is that if you can't make sales with spare capacity you're not going to make sales without spare capacity.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: is your thought that attempts to cut cost are entirely wrong thrust ?
BingoBoingo: Even if I frame it as "we aren't utilizing the whole pipe", they are going to smell blood
BingoBoingo: <mircea_popescu> asciilifeform that your dc respects you is probably your only asset now. giving that away will yield what, "a clearer situation" ? << This is my worry about "renegotiating" with the DC
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform that your dc respects you is probably your only asset now. giving that away will yield what, "a clearer situation" ?
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: imho trinque is right , tomorrow morning is the time to have a talk with the dc rep re bw pricing function ( and post the output to our www asap )
trinque: with which to persuade for the cut
trinque: if customers wont take the diminished capacity that's basically all else pizarro has that has (if very) hypothetical value
trinque: it's a model of a negotiation, not proposing a specific, other than not sitting around thinking about how lordly we are while we die
trinque: or y'all can proceed valiantly into the void, whichever you prefer
trinque: "capacity will temporarily be X while BingoBoingo Ys, this gives T time left to P. customers will meanwhile accumulate S shares per billing cycle of diminished capacity" as a rough model of what I'm talking about.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 18:57 BingoBoingo: Well the numbers as of last January http://bingology.net/2018/01/18/datacenter-costs/
trinque: BingoBoingo: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-13#1886484 << I was looking for a calculation on your part, so you have something to negotiate with customers. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: let them pay pizarro, nobody said they're gonna be making policy.
mircea_popescu: last i heard you're not welcome in the us congress, will still get fined if you park in the main entryway to courthouse.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the item where mircea_popescu decided that heathendom is ~irredeemably stupid, and that ~all the folx who belong in, are already in
mircea_popescu: "my five year plan for pizarro is that by the time we're done with the first three it'll not be physically possible to do such a thing as 'host a website' anywhere else."\
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: how does this square with the http://trilema.com/2016/how-to-participate-in-the-affairs-of-the-most-serene-republic/#selection-23.0-31.1 item ?
mircea_popescu: first, you tell them to come over, then you start nuking everyone else, and on in this manner. what, are we fucking around ?
mircea_popescu: tmsr isn't some cool secret project for five dorks under some covers in a pillow fort somewhere. tmsr is the rule of the world and mandatory at all junctures, wtf.
mircea_popescu: if you opt to not tell people to come in -- you opt to be out of here.
mircea_popescu: and i hear he has a wife to support, as well.
mircea_popescu: because if they are not -- guess what, bezos also isn't.
mircea_popescu: yes, there's an argument to be made for "help out fellow republicans". fine and good, but them fellow republicans'd better be out there converting the world to the republic.
trinque: and since the "fair price" is going to be "what we need" ^ aha
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform whatever the calculation is, it's not gonna be "im just gonna subsizide whatever-you-guise-feel-like"
trinque: since I still host everything important elsewhere, not as much as if I thought it'd be around.
asciilifeform: trinque: enlighten me, what exactly price is republican hosting worth to trinque ? is it '10% over what amazon costs' ? or 'the number i've grown used to?' what's the calculation there
diana_coman: myeah, that "into the black in two months" seems to me weird here; the trouble is not even "in two months" but at all; because it has been way more than 2 months and if it keeps going as is, I doubt 10 months would make a difference
mircea_popescu: what is this, retard school ? we don't want "projects" in the playdo sense.
mircea_popescu: the notion whereby "i've been doing something by hand in lieu of what i'm supposed to do" passing muster is not unlike the case where you send girl to buy you shoes and she comes by with "i love you alf" papier mache "8th march -- mother's day!!" gift.
trinque: asciilifeform: if you try to reach black by multiplying my bill, I'll just leave.
asciilifeform: trinque: why mention only cuts , but not price ? thing's riotously underpriced currently.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform enumerate the db of each forum touching upon internet, message each single user, report on results. ☟︎
trinque: barring that the thing's dead.
trinque: negotiate with existing customers re: what cuts they'll suffer, *if* they will, cut, and roll everything you can to actual, aggressive sales efforts
asciilifeform: ftr , and in re whole thread, asciilifeform is entirely all ears re any thoughts trinque , diana_coman , mircea_popescu , et al, have re subj of what gotta be done in order to reach the black. ☟︎
trinque: don't know if y'all have a realistic perception of what sales takes, and "I'm gonna sell my way into the black in two months" sounds like.
diana_coman: not to mention that it sounds to me that you'll potentially lose precisely those customers you want
diana_coman: trinque, for s.mg it's less straightforward and it's not even just a matter of backups only; at any rate, it's at best "starvation mode" so I don't see how it really gets pizarro out of trouble; so far it's not even clear that *price* is the trouble re converting really; is it?
asciilifeform: trinque: i'm entirely in agreement with your earlier pt re 'i'd rather have thin pipe than no pipe'. the q is whether the currently unborn subscribers, who are needed in order to go into the black, will agree.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-18 19:59 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform wants to hire BingoBoingo to do it ; BingoBoingo is looking around for "awk experts" to do it. meanwhile, danielpbarron is out there doing it.
a111: Logged on 2018-12-12 19:41 BingoBoingo: ^ Any awk ninjas want to try this on a few forums?
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, did you talk to your tech about automating any part of that? << I have not directly requested that no. There was the conversation that lead to http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-12#1880371 and http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-18#1881538 ☝︎☝︎
asciilifeform: trinque: ~90% of the time the pipe is no saturated. the issue is burst capacity.
asciilifeform: this item is on acct of the geography, and i do not presently know of a cure
asciilifeform: diana_coman: the painful troof is that's riotously 'uncompetitive' vs. ~the reich~, where 'same' price gets you 100mbit/bidirectional ~per machine~
trinque: diana_coman: would reducing the download capacity to 10mbps harm your use case any?
diana_coman: BingoBoingo, did you talk to your tech about automating any part of that?
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 18:53 BingoBoingo: trinque: I don't have concrete plans. The major part of the DC cost is pipe rather than rack. Renegotiating for less pipe with the datacenter would change the costs we are basing our colocation price off of as well.
BingoBoingo: links earlier mentioned. At present there is one ongoing conversation as a result of this.
BingoBoingo: <diana_coman> BingoBoingo, but how *many* accounts did you message out of how many in the db, over what time, what filter(s) did you use and with what results? << The way I've been walking by hand involves looking at the users online list most forums helpfully still offer and going from there. Recently I've taken to looking for "I got banned from X turdservice" threads and blogs then posting targeted copy as demonstrated in one of the
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 19:01 trinque: I'd be shocked if you needed more than that 10/100.
a111: Logged on 2019-01-13 22:15 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there can be no question of 'sharing rack', it's entirely nonstarter. what there are, are half-height racks, in which most of the other customers of that bldg live. but they are bad deal, iirc they only cost slightly less than a full 42 height.