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mircea_popescu: anyway, when trump won the first derping of the female state went along the lines of "adults", mind ye, ~adults~ "taking care of him" or somesuch nonsense. this directly maps, period ie 1880s dinner conversation had the dead women been instead present went "why did you machinegun those nice zulus ?" "what the fuck did you want me to do, teach them english, invite them over for tea, meet the missus ?" "<grin>"
mircea_popescu: talking to myself for a good 15 minutes, because something with pingpongs or what was it!
mircea_popescu: Jan 30 18:44:15 <mircea_popescu> o look, now it ~didn't disconnect me at all anymore~. just sat there, 10 minutes+, nothing doing. because totally, "the protocol permits", or how did it go ?
mircea_popescu: Jan 30 18:41:19 <mircea_popescu> amateurs, as it turns out, are a terrible plague.
mircea_popescu: Jan 30 18:40:54 <mircea_popescu> peripueral fever made the british empire possible more than anything else, and the reason there isn't one today are simply put all the happy tourists taking pictures of costa rican wild life.
mircea_popescu: Jan 30 18:40:29 <mircea_popescu> in this view (which, while not the only interpretation that can be painted on the facts nevertheless very much is an interpretation that very well can be painted on the facts), the required reagent for something to happen is for somehow, accidentally or intentionally, female representation to go away.
mircea_popescu: Jan 30 18:38:28 <mircea_popescu> to be replaced with "decolonialization" or whatever bullshit. http://trilema.com/2013/a-very-unfair-perspective/#selection-193.0-193.108 has the details.
mircea_popescu: Jan 30 18:37:28 <mircea_popescu> once peripueral fever went away, the british empire ended.
mircea_popescu: Jan 30 18:37:15 <mircea_popescu> and, this is the bomb : they were alone, so there could be an empire. because most females mated with powerful males died before reaching the 2nd half of maturity (and especially old age), the female view was ~not represented in society~. dick was alone, not merely personally, but politically, there was no one there to efficiently argue his position.
mircea_popescu: Jan 30 18:36:11 <mircea_popescu> because of peripueral fever, which at the time was a 10-20% winnings dice every woman rolled every time she had a kid, it then followed that most kids at one of the boarding schools had no mothers.
mircea_popescu: Jan 30 18:31:07 <mircea_popescu> leaving aside how period couples easily did a week of abstinence, i retorted this was not so, but rather to be true to life : most of the kids in dick's position had no mother
mircea_popescu: Jan 30 18:30:38 <mircea_popescu> and since i mentioned vice-versa again, some #haremleaks : hanbot asked me if i think the only reason anstey made paul a widower was so he didn't have to confront his son fucking his wife during that week. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: consider also http://trilema.com/2011/leapsa-universala/#comment-47349 discussion, "Trilema este un blog onest in primul rand. Atat de onest incat instraineaza foarte multi din cei care il folosesc. Daca ar fi sa desenam un grafic cu utilizatorii acestui blog am vedea ca ei cresc pana la un moment dat si dupaia zice Popescu ceva (pai cum dreq) si fuge gloata oripilata in toate directiile."
mircea_popescu: but, in point of fact, they always end up looking just like dickie bultitude. especially to their long-suffering father, paul.
mircea_popescu: they ~don't mean to be~ dangerous, of course. they really meant everything to be the tits, really.
mircea_popescu: known stock in trade "defense".)
mircea_popescu: and to briefly revisit discussion : people who aim to tell a story ~qua story~ rather than qua reality ARE DANGEROUS. very, very fucking dangerous, and ~they know this, too~ (or otherwise, one's hard pressed to explain why they come up with inane "really, the other guy is dangerous, promise" bullshit aka http://trilema.com/2014/the-definitive-tract-on-sociopathy/ -- especially seeing how that's their amply documented and well
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 23:10 asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1890969 << was karatism ultra-popular in '80s ro, like in late sovok ? ( there, was ubiquitous, esp. on acct of being Officially verboten )
asciilifeform: but helpfully!111 tell you 1st.
mircea_popescu: yes, it "permits", in the sense that it wasn't designed with a view of the amateur politician's needs in mind, and so their hamhandedness incidentally self-crits.
asciilifeform: ( if you dun 'pong' < t after 'ping'-ed, they drop )
asciilifeform: the lulzprotocol actually permits this
asciilifeform: i've seen similar lulz, where i actually get a ' asciilifeform has quit (Ping timeout ... ' ~prior~ to actually getting dropped
mircea_popescu: it's not like i patched my software to lie to me, is it.
mircea_popescu: IF it did, then HOW THE FUCK DO I HEAR YOU ?
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform this is not a pipe drop! this is freenode going "sorry your pipe dropped"
mircea_popescu: how the fuck is this supposed to work, seriously now, "hello sir we can't hear you sorry"
mircea_popescu: Jan 30 15:42:41 * Closing Link: pdpc/supporter/silver/mircea-popescu (Ping timeout: 240 seconds)
mircea_popescu: so we're back to
asciilifeform: 1 of the 1st things asciilifeform remembers reading as a larva , is a street poster advertising 1 of those underground dojos
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 20:03 mircea_popescu: so the year's sometime in the golden 90s, and some super-duper karate trainer guy who happens to also be a friend of the family is visiting.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1890969 << was karatism ultra-popular in '80s ro, like in late sovok ? ( there, was ubiquitous, esp. on acct of being Officially verboten ) ☝︎☟︎☟︎
asciilifeform recalls'em at the BingoBoingostan market, right next to the other meat on the hoof
asciilifeform: or 1 of those iguanas, say
asciilifeform: lol asciilifeform misread, was just about to ask how one prepares a capybara an' how was the meat
nicoleci: yeah me either, we should change this. i wonder if mircea_popescu's scope of pretentiousness reaches tasting a fine capybara
BingoBoingo: And the locals shot a second police officer this week. Monday's in Villa Española. This one in La Blanqueda.
BingoBoingo: I can't speak as to the taste of capybara
nicoleci: haha, then next a capybara
BingoBoingo: Cavia porcellus for the uninitiated
BingoBoingo: Maybe give Cuy a try
nicoleci: should be a fun demonstration for everyone at the store
mircea_popescu: aite, ima add a cleaver to the list.
nicoleci: should probably try for a raw lamb next time
nicoleci: mircea_popescu, fetlife never disappoints. the best part of it is how he gave an explanation on why he thought that for a whole second and posted the comment
mircea_popescu: that's for sure. though THAT only comes into its own when i sit here typing and bulk up while the girls are (even now!) at the gym and... nothin' doin'.
mircea_popescu: my point is that the behavioural separation is visible rather before secondary sexual characteristics.
diana_coman: hrm, some don't , lol; tits and ass and even more than that
mircea_popescu: 11yos don't have tits.
mircea_popescu: you mean tits ?
diana_coman: ehm, from personal experience I can tell you that precisely at that age there is basically a massive handicap all of a sudden; and quite visible too
mircea_popescu: but, for some reason (which i suspect -- only in part cultural, and besides, why would a girl believe her mother) they tend to not want to earnestly try.
mircea_popescu: well, which brings us full circle : girls seemed to prefer that way rather than this, notwithstanding that they ~could~ have earned a decent spot on the rooster if earnestly tried.
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, well, it's basically those who really cared to vs those who really did NOT care to, will always be able to; uhm? the whole thing was those who really cared to vs those who really cared to, otherwise not much sense imo
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 19:37 mircea_popescu: anyway, the amateur behaviour is actually not unknown among children. now and again you see some kid (esp one that's not usually violent) FURIOUS to the point of rabid because some other kid "cheated", ie, did something the universe supported but the kid's mind did not.
a111: 0 results for "\"jump in the well\"", http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=%22jump%20in%20the%20well%22
mircea_popescu: !#s "jump in the well"
a111: Logged on 2019-01-30 19:40 mircea_popescu: the traditional period greeting among boys, etched as it finds itself in my memory, went "ma, tu poti asa ?" ie, "hey, can you do this ?". girls tended to challenge each other rather to knowledge of particular conventions, "you read so and so book ?! SO DID I!!!"
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-30#1890962 << hey how does one say 'взять на слабо' in ro ? ( trad. method of 1 boy getting another to do something foolish, 'hey betcha yer too weak to X!' ) ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: i have nfi how she found the room for such kicking, but, the fact remains -- very much ~could~, a good half of all males are not worth the chickenfeed.
mircea_popescu: chick slid her ass to the side and cracked him one shoe square in the forehead, after he grabed her ass.
mircea_popescu: and then JUST as i turn to grab the dood by the scruff of his neck and see who the fuck this is then, what, am i talking to myself here ?!
mircea_popescu: clubs in the 90s were TIGHT.
mircea_popescu: i have her walk in front of me ; and JUST as i'm explaining that nobody'd better fucking molest my guest or else, i feel some schmuck interlacing himself in front of me.
mircea_popescu: so we go to the club, because what can you do ?
mircea_popescu: so the year's sometime in the golden 90s, and some super-duper karate trainer guy who happens to also be a friend of the family is visiting. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: actually, if they at all cared to... here, let me recount an anecdote.
diana_coman: that might be, sure; doesn't change much though yes, strictly speaking "can" aka a qualified can
diana_coman: do you mean that the average girl can still beat the lower placed boys after puberty?
diana_coman: I don't quite parse that
mircea_popescu: diana_coman entirely possibru! though the ~average~ girl is still no match for the lower placed boys. so i wouldn't call it "can't" properly speaking.
mircea_popescu: the traditional period greeting among boys, etched as it finds itself in my memory, went "ma, tu poti asa ?" ie, "hey, can you do this ?". girls tended to challenge each other rather to knowledge of particular conventions, "you read so and so book ?! SO DID I!!!" ☟︎
diana_coman: you mean: at/after puberty, girls can't quite beat the shit out boys anymore and therefore they stop fighting them directly; lol
mircea_popescu: the distinction generally matches their gender, too. girls tend to end up in the amateur-player groups. not so much climbing and activities with sticks that are wont to show one how inadequate human life is in a contest with sheer reality ;
mircea_popescu: at about the age of 10-11 or so, children, that were previously quite happy to play together, separate very visibly into pro-player and amateur-player groups.
mircea_popescu: anyway, the amateur behaviour is actually not unknown among children. now and again you see some kid (esp one that's not usually violent) FURIOUS to the point of rabid because some other kid "cheated", ie, did something the universe supported but the kid's mind did not. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: some guy who can't spell, because cotsnaltny doign htis, is you know, merely dyslexic. if they ALSO can't tie their own shoes... well...
mircea_popescu: diana_coman "retarded" is a term for ~broad~ failure. narrow failure, ie one that can be described on a single node, doesn't seem to meet it.
mircea_popescu: but anyway, the amateur, as a category, is very much a 19th century late-protestantism invention, along with such greats as "altruism" etcetera. they have little anchoring in reality, being as they are the waste byproducts of a specific stage of industrial society.
diana_coman: uhm, maybe this particular love-mistake is so significant in practice to really make the distinction that no, they are not retarded, they are just ...dunno, love-seeking? and anyway then...why is this not just retarded as well?
mircea_popescu: from reviewing my past practice, i suspect i'd call them "retarded".
diana_coman: begging the q: what is it then
diana_coman: really? so what, if you notice an amateur making at some point ALSO a childish mistake then...it's not an amateur anymore?
mircea_popescu: making jesus (not as either the historical character or the pre-1800s various layers of reported historical character) the elliot of amateurs.
mircea_popescu: whereas amateurs specialize in one particular branch of childish mistake : stuff to with love.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-22 16:45 mircea_popescu: in other notes to the self, I was recently looking desperately for that discussion of the static/dynamic infantile error, but gave up in frustration. neverhteless, here it is : http://trilema.com/2016/why-is-that/#selection-221.55-225.273
a111: Logged on 2018-12-01 21:21 mircea_popescu: "the notion that airplanes could reproduce through laying eggs is merely a naive extension, in the vein of 'object A has properties a and b ; object B shares property a and therefore it is reasonable ~~~on a first approximation~~~ to expect it exhibit proerty b'. nevertheless, artifacts differ from nature in that one fundamental aspect, that they're inefficient, and therefore to achieve same ends end up heavy, and in the case
mircea_popescu: children routinely make all sorts of mistakes, chief among which the naive extension (ie http://btcbase.org/log/2018-12-01#1877543 ) and dynamic-static confusion ( http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-22#1756978 ) ☝︎☝︎
mircea_popescu: diana_coman note that the class of childish notion's wider than the class of amateur tropes.
diana_coman: I can see at least the distinction proposed there with amateur vs childish
mircea_popescu: though i suppose the proper name'd be http://btcbase.org/log-search?q=uci
diana_coman: to my mind all children ARE childish, what else; but in their case that's just by definition basically, they can't be something else, not an issue
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/01/computing-timeshare-market-xdecid-shuttered-by-fbi/ << Qntra -- Computing Timeshare Market xDecid Shuttered By FBI
mircea_popescu: Mocky calling a woman sexy, also in jest, term reserved for prepubescent girls and boys of all ages ?
mircea_popescu: iirc it went the other way around.
Mocky: well child-like is not the term, but I do think childish only applies to adults. calling a child childish would be in jest
diana_coman: hm, so amateur is the childish use of adult brain capacity i.e. a mismatch essentially?
a111: Logged on 2014-02-10 01:34 mircea_popescu: people can want in one hand and piss in the other, see which fills first.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2014-02-10#494107 << traditional formula of address for amateurs. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: therefore one's an amateur rather than merely childish.