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nubbins`: i gave one to my folks and then gave away the rest in chunks of 100 to friends who roll their own, for use as filter
nubbins`: <pete_dushenski> i saw it, just saying that i wouldn't make use of that many <<< my first job as a "web dev", they gave me 1000 business cards. for some reason.
punkman: (as in, check out what the brits are writing now)
BingoBoingo: "Maybe if they’d listen to us curmudgeons once in a while, rather than trying to shut us up, community colleges wouldn’t be in the shape many of us are today: taking unconscionable amounts of students’ loan eligibility and seeing them leave when it runs out, as illiterate/innumerate as they were when they got here. No one wants us to talk about that, though."
mircea_popescu: "Just as it is the way of an ape to imitate humans, so too, a person, when he has become old, imitates himself, and does what was his manner previously."
pete_dushenski: aaaand just-as-eyes-close-scoop: http://www.contravex.com/2015/04/03/aligning-incentives/
ben_vulpes: mircea_popescu: i like to complain as much as the next jew, but these russians!
asciilifeform: 'Let’s use IBM as an example. As all business observers know, CEOs Lou Gerstner and Sam Palmisano did a superb job in moving IBM from near-bankruptcy twenty years ago to its prominence today. Their operational accomplishments were truly extraordinary.' (buffett '11)
assbot: Logged on 03-04-2015 01:45:04; Cogburn: I think we can bullshit the current system by crypto inside of the existing rules and bring about real change. I do not believe in the decentralized anarcho-capitalist utopia as a world-spanning solution to our ills. I think people will live that way if the want to, but real freedom is the ability to say "no"
asciilifeform fesses up that he loved it to death as a boy
pete_dushenski: i dunno if my monthly contributions qualify me for 'qntra ppl' but as cool as cards with just email and gpg would be, i'm not sure i'd have much use for them in the space of meat
cazalla: wow, that fortune.com article cites btcfeed as the source of the jan bitpay layoffs? fucking cunts
mircea_popescu: "I know, but I also know that you are only flattering me as an attempt to manipulate me."
assbot: George Orwell: As I Please -- 1943 ... ( http://bit.ly/1I9faus )
asciilifeform: ( http://orwell.ru/library/articles/As_I_Please/english/eaip_04 )
asciilifeform: i actually read his 'all bitcoin users will be gassed' thing as honest defeatism
mircea_popescu: As a development methodology it's often useful to write hoon that tracks an existing C routine rather than the other way around, but even this needs to be done quite carefully to avoid jet discrepancies."
asciilifeform: ideally i would not even suggest something as terrifyingly unpleasant as - in effect - giving everyone a 486.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu is right, but in the same way as a fella taking penicillin is 'swallowing poison'
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform i can't see this as anything but "adding more bad code".
asciilifeform: but think of it as a skyscraper foundation. there is tremendous pressure on it
asciilifeform: as in 'here they are and this they shall be in 3015 running on Aldan-XVIII cpu'
asciilifeform: as in, putting an actual cork in the os/libs/cpu/etc
mircea_popescu: inb short : it'd be great if emulators as you conceptually represent one existed and work. they do not. what we need is a distro to set in stone.
mircea_popescu: pete_dushenski "The teens are the sons of Roxanne Dubé, who only recently assumed the role of consul general in Miami. A former Fulbright scholar, she has extensive diplomatic experience, having worked as an aide in Parliament and as the ambassador to Zimbabwe."
asciilifeform: works on soviet 'elbrus' as well as american '486'
asciilifeform: when used as classical qemu (with accelerator) there is no hypervisor
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the problem is that the pc architecture (as a standard that you can hard-hold a vendor to) is dead.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: be so kind as to try the build on one of your debians ?
asciilifeform: even if there is a universe full of falsehood. as pointed out, stupidity cuts into equivalence classes.
asciilifeform: as a massage.
asciilifeform: not as a serious guide for humans !
asciilifeform: i haven't seen anything as insulting to the intelligence of the reader as 'voltage security co.' in many years.
mircea_popescu: (yeah yeah i know, as if)
mircea_popescu: any random string being hashable, any random string could be used as a pubkey, in principle. may take some work to mine a usable privkey to go with it, but...
asciilifeform: as in, fed to unsuspecting bipedal cattle
danielpbarron: it's always a choice.. between doing as your master says or being beaten
Cogburn: i'm okay with that, so long as there is a choice
BingoBoingo: Cogburn: As someone else from the borderlands between the middle west and the middle south of the US I swear the WoT doesn't hurt that much
danielpbarron: well seeing as how i'm using a node which didn't change rules..
Cogburn: MP doesn't have the market cornered on being crazy. some of us are just fucking nuts as he is. just not as rich. yet.
danielpbarron: and so far all you have to say might as well have been copy pasted from the top comment on a reddit post
Cogburn: I think we can bullshit the current system by crypto inside of the existing rules and bring about real change. I do not believe in the decentralized anarcho-capitalist utopia as a world-spanning solution to our ills. I think people will live that way if the want to, but real freedom is the ability to say "no"
trinque: depends I think as well on initial conditions a great deal.
danielpbarron: the same people who always have an explaination at the ready as to why they don't like WoTs
BingoBoingo: <Cogburn> i think WoT's are kinda culty << It makes a decent shit filter though. The postitive ratings often are no where near as informative as the reasons for the negative ratings
ben_vulpes: my debian as well
nubbins`: danielpbarron we'll be making them for as long as people buy them. i'll set one aside for ya
asciilifeform: just as you could have north america ruled by a sane ottoman empire.
mircea_popescu: you could have it implemented sanely just as well.
mircea_popescu: he might as well be a monkey.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: in so far as i can tell, the problem in question is entirely shot in the head by my dns removal patch.
mircea_popescu: i can see why this would be useful as an alternative method for very peculiar situations
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 14:54:13; assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 03:26:58; nubbins`: "glibc uses libnss to support a number of different providers for address resolution services. Unfortunately, you cannot statically link libnss, as exactly what providers it loads depends on the local system's configuration."
mircea_popescu: might as well make your strategy "to get really really fat" ☟︎
assbot: Logged on 19-10-2014 18:32:52; asciilifeform: engineers, who (as shown by the 'monolith' gedankenexperiment, search logs) often do not really apprehend how lizard-reich and its subordinate bureaucracies really think.
mircea_popescu: as if that's what happened, i was sitting on an exercise ball one day and spontaneously decided hey, let me make a political party and pick bones!
asciilifeform: and even further discouraging genuine audit, as if this were possible or even necessary
asciilifeform: as if this did something tangible beyond making it even -less- fit-in-head.
trinque: mine is busted as yours
asciilifeform: because your dump is quite the same as mine
trinque: asciilifeform: current release busts for me on uint32_t as well
asciilifeform: as in the weirdo crown monopolies.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i didn't say 'authorships' but -patents- as we know'em.
asciilifeform: unless a patent is so poorly constructed as to be thrown out immediately, any patent litigation in usaworld is a contest of bank accounts.
asciilifeform: as in, the only thing they are good for is office decoration
mircea_popescu: stuff that was ridiculous to patent in 1850, such as "how to make bread" definitely meets the bar today.
mircea_popescu: and as peole stupidify, more and more tyhings will be.
asciilifeform: mats: as in, 'why is the enemy supplying instructions for your cpu to execute in the first place'
nubbins`: asciilifeform then a couple thou years from now you've got people taking guesses as to the True Name of mrc ppsc
hanbot: i'm not as curious
nubbins`: so i can't really say if it's actually as tender as it seemed
mircea_popescu: there's no such thing as an engineer that's not a psychiatrist.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform just meant for size. server ssd 100gb is expensive as shit
asciilifeform: lasts about as long as the shitty mechanical disks sold in past 5 yrs
mircea_popescu: i have put plenty of ope, as you may well be aware of from unrelatedlandia.
mircea_popescu: heh. as in stupid ?
asciilifeform: ^ eu welcomes reich IV as it welcomed III
nubbins`: i know i'd sure as fuck rather play Super Spike V-Ball on an actual NES
nubbins`: i do feel that we'll run into precisely the same issues as we're having with our current gentoo installs
nubbins`: might as well get em all laid out now
asciilifeform: nubbins`: i'd rather have something that isn't as dependent on pc
nubbins`: mod6 in fairness my gentoo was installed using the official docs, and it's reacting precisely the same as alf's
nubbins`: gentoo is ostensibly used by alf because it's the sanest. the fact that bitcoind doesn't compile on it doesn't necessarily mean that the OS is the problem, nor does it mean a turd should be adopted as the OTBT
asciilifeform: because it was given the local ssl as a search path, yes
funkenstein_: smells like cryptography as a service
asciilifeform: ed as program chair or general chair for several academic conferences and as member of more than 30 conference program committees.'
asciilifeform: 'Dan Boneh is professor of Computer Science and Electrical Engineering at Stanford University, and leads the applied cryptography group there. He has written extensively on cryptography and computer security, publishing more than 150 refereed conference and peer-reviewed journal papers. Boneh served as an editor of ACM Transactions on Internet Technology (TOIT), Journal of the ACM (JACM), and Journal of Cryptology. He has serv
asciilifeform: 'Identity-based encryption is a type of public-key encryption in which any arbitrary string (such as a user’s email address) can be used as a public key, enabling data to be protected without the need for long, randomly generated keys or certificates. Today, there are numerous standards for IBE based on Boneh’s work, including IEEE P1363.3 and several IETF RFCs.' << from the press release. ☟︎
asciilifeform: 'Boneh, in joint work with Matt Franklin, constructed a novel pairing-based method for identity-based encryption (IBE), whereby a user's public identity, such as an email address, can function as the user's public key. Since then, Boneh's contributions, together with those of others, have shown the power and versatility of pairings, which are now used as a mainstream tool in cryptography. The transfer of pairings from theory t ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mod6: yeah, what we need now is a build environment as discussed yesterday. or we really can't move forward.
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 03:26:58; nubbins`: "glibc uses libnss to support a number of different providers for address resolution services. Unfortunately, you cannot statically link libnss, as exactly what providers it loads depends on the local system's configuration."
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 01:18:00; decimation: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2725255/create-statically-linked-binary-that-uses-getaddrinfo <glibc uses libnss to support a number of different providers for address resolution services. Unfortunately, you cannot statically link libnss, as exactly what providers it loads depends on the local system's configuration.
nubbins`: with "-std=c++03" from portatronic patch removed: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=50XwKjsy (precisely the same as before patching)
nubbins`: put another way: maybe all your bookface friends care just as much as you do
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform and speaking of it : http://www.cryptomuseum.com/crypto/fialka/psu/img/Tempest.png doesn't look like the exceptionally advanced thing the article promised. seems to me the solenoid-driven switching would create so much echo as to make it readily measurable.
assbot: Logged on 02-04-2015 03:26:39; decimation: asciilifeform: one wonders what the openssl authors use as a 'baseline os'
decimation: perhaps. it's hard not to see things taught to undergrads as 'not obvious'
asciilifeform: but what -could- they have been doing, that was equally entertaining as setting rabid chimps free ?
decimation: because they were seen as a symbol of 'the man'