asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: sorta why i doubt that the whale is the correct model. not all protein , from our pov, is created equally, a webtard with a few satoshi to his name, does us no good
asciilifeform: whale is looking for plankton; if he were filter feeding for, e.g. , rabbits, in the sea -- might have problem
asciilifeform: fact of the matter is, for the price of pizarro rockchip, heathen can get 5x the cpu with 10x the bandwidth in heathendom. how to persuade him to instead buy this ?
asciilifeform: and the lack of discussion , is quite worrisome
asciilifeform: this is why asciilifeform has serious headache , re the heathen component -- currently i've nfi how to appeal to them in any way at all
asciilifeform: heathens on the board, for instance, imho would thoroughly trash the 'l1 isp' premise.
asciilifeform: asciilifeform's particular concern , is , in short form : right now we have the ~physical~ component of the item we wanted for yrs , a l1-operated locking-cage isp. but not ~economic~ component, because l1 does not presently add up to sufficient custom to power the thing 100% . so it needs heathen power. but this must be achieved without compromising on the 'l1 isp' .
asciilifeform wishes there were a spare asciilifeform , because asciilifeform is 150% loaded with chores
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i gotta do a ro expedition.
asciilifeform: eventually will begin to run out, if no one else shares the chore of producing it
asciilifeform: esp given as the fact that the project has cost asciilifeform a good % of his btc and the bulk of his usd
asciilifeform: also worth to keep in mind, that, e.g., asciilifeform is willing to jump through certain flaming rings for 50% stake, that he would not so eagerly jump through for 1%
asciilifeform: mod6: there is more than 1 difficulty with this scheme, but the most obvious one i know of, is that i dun think i actually know 5 people who ~have~ 10btc (much less wanting to play)
asciilifeform: and it has all of the pertinent functionality of a microshit spreadshit etc
asciilifeform: it strikes me as archaetypical wankage
asciilifeform: i must confess that i agree with mircea_popescu : the postgres db thing is neither here nor there, and in fact harmful, i would like to be able to run ben_vulpes's calculations as before , using his lisp proggies, without having to fuck with a db snapshot, wtf srsly
asciilifeform: sorta the appeal, from my pov. countermodernity pr0n.
asciilifeform: ( it is pretty great b00k, all around, and quite 'liberal' even, contrary to what the derps in amerischool 'teach' about it -- forbade trials by ordeal, imposed procedure , proclaimed heretical some of the moar odd claims popular at the time re subj )
asciilifeform: and i half-expected to find mircea_popescu quoting from sprenger's latin original
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the external site is a bag o'lulz, belongs to iirc some radical feminist types
asciilifeform at one time lived in a house with an aquarium; on several occasion the fish -- jumped out. perhaps this is it.
asciilifeform: see also mircea_popescu's observations re the aquarium. what, exactly, is aquarium fish to do, if he doesn't like the owner ?
asciilifeform: ditto the nice folx who remove unplugged zeks from the grocery etc. when it bounces there.
asciilifeform: the armed evicters who show up when the rent check bounces, do exist, i've seen'em at work
asciilifeform: i think i get it, mircea_popescu is a zhukov-style 'mine field, what mine field, cowards, you have feet, nao move'em why dontcha' sort of commander.
asciilifeform: this is a pretty odd, to put it softly, position, that , say, pugachev was dragged in a cage to the chopping block 'randomly' and 'anybody could have' ?
asciilifeform: for people who aren't mircea_popescu -- these are very real problem.
asciilifeform: i suppose if you're mircea_popescu , you can describe the problem of folx for whom bank acct being zeroed, blacklisting from employment, declared outlaw, as 'imaginary'.
asciilifeform: not all nuisances go away when you close eyes and pretend they aren't there.
asciilifeform: unless i misunderstand, this is a 'here's a tank grenade, take some with you' argument. and perfectly valid.
asciilifeform: different when actual money on the table.
asciilifeform: ( every so often, you see zeks who 'i'ma build anyway'; recall recent case, john carmack, and his ocular thing. built company , popular gadget, then the patent trolls show up; now they own it. )
asciilifeform: for my edification, plz sketch this out ?
asciilifeform: my argument is that 'underground, out of old tires', yes you can build borz that way, but no not lispm.
asciilifeform: i suppose they could have ran off to su and tried to persuade brezhnev to build a lispm ?
asciilifeform: these folx were playing by the 'free world'(tm)(r) rules, with the patent and copyright etc claptrap. so naturally 'by mit rules'
asciilifeform: the other nitpick is with http://btcbase.org/log/2017-04-09#1640940 , but iirc i registered objection at the time ( 'gnu' was nowhere even in sight when the events in question took place, the mushroom's 'i will reimplement IT ALL!' was a flowered-up recollection of his employment at lmi, one of the 3 mit licensee corps )☝︎
asciilifeform: it is possible to build some things 'in spare time, out of belly button lint', e.g. 1970s microcomps. it was NOT possible to build lispm 'out of lint'.
asciilifeform: and as for the set of 'lord kelvin' ('i was born into money AND i like to experiment') : was ~null set. at least as evidenced by the results.
asciilifeform: there were no medici to go to, in 1974, no.
