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mircea_popescu: pity it's missing, too, because i know of scarcely better word to denote us corp drone besides ro tîmpiți.
mircea_popescu: that's acute, the idea here's chronic.
BingoBoingo: Nah, that's only when they are on tilt
mircea_popescu: timpit doesn't even exist in any sense, unless you dig out slavonic. what's the english ~word~ for someone made dull by repeated blunt skull trauma ?
mircea_popescu: sadly they sound like nothing in english. "devli's ox" wtf is that ?!
BingoBoingo: 10. You should never call partner representatives as boul dracului or t�mpitu\' ala." << Gem
mircea_popescu: come to think about it, perhaps the largest open question re ro language would be why exactly everything exasperatingly dubious belongs to the Fish.
mircea_popescu: "staff" didn't know what's highly offensive to it until the nigger brigade showed up to enlighten!
mircea_popescu: very much the unifying thread of http://trilema.com/2018/hey-women-did-you-know-that-before-the-pantsuited-hilarity-gave-you-your-civil-rights-you-were-living-in-slavery/ and tlp's "hey x people, did you know you hate y people ?" usg.media model.
mircea_popescu: t is offensive to you"
mircea_popescu: "It has been brought to our attention [...] that offensive language is commonly used by [...] staff. Such behavior, in addition to violating our policy, is highly unprofessional and offensive to both visitors and staff." << very typical flavour of bureaucrat alt-worlding, "here staff, here's wha
asciilifeform: could've sworn that item was subj of old thrd
diana_coman: mircea_popescu, I found only this one http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/Iitk3/?raw=true although I remember a better one ☟︎
feedbot: http://qntra.net/2019/02/brexit-spirit-no-fault-divorce-coming-to-airstrip-one/ << Qntra -- Brexit Spirit: No Fault Divorce Coming To Airstrip One
asciilifeform: e.g. the infamous circle-squarers, sometimes produced book-length piles o'???
asciilifeform: 'pyramid' is typically product of 'linear mind' ( from mircea_popescu's recent piece on subj ) pilin' up whatever dung he could muster
mircea_popescu: i suppose the dead endness of dead ends is ~always~ going to be sitting on a pyramid tho. "how do you know this can't be" very different from "here, try it, it works"
asciilifeform: it's in the 'whole thing is a bridge to nowhere on acct of [noether's symmetry or other item perpetrator is entirely innocent of]'
asciilifeform: right! it's ~never in the 'pyramid' sense
mircea_popescu: that literally ~advanced~ metamaterial isn't for this advance further, but rather -- closer.\
a111: Logged on 2019-01-04 17:18 mircea_popescu: why the fuck didn't i think of that.
mircea_popescu: i confess i like it, as expression, but it also grates me. deeper understanding is not generally "more advanced" in the sense of, "sits atop larger pyramid", but generally in the sense of http://btcbase.org/log/2019-01-04#1884426 ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-07-18 22:58 asciilifeform: whaack is quite likely thinking of the bulk of the b00k, which consists of blockcipher liquishit which is complicated for no reason at all other than the religion where 'it is confusing to ME, author, and therefore Must Be Hard To Break'
asciilifeform: ( arguably a variant of http://btcbase.org/log/2017-07-18#1686299 thinking ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: possibly was schwartz. had also a great point where 'crackpot will find how to take the 'proof' to where its demolition requires ever slightly moar advanced grasp of subj than he is able to muster'
asciilifeform: and hrm where was that three-cycle engine thread.
asciilifeform: buncha these.
asciilifeform: 'won't commit to writing down an equation for love or money'
asciilifeform: wish i could dredge up the orig. but from memory it had a 'resists formalization' definitely
mircea_popescu: possibru not on trilema
asciilifeform: was a kind of taxonomy of dodges/'fatlogic' gymnastics
asciilifeform: ( i dun recall whether was on trilema, or older, elsewhere )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this reads like ye olde (imho great, btw) guide to perpetuum-mobile aficionados
asciilifeform: oh neato, ty, i'll eat
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 18:35 mircea_popescu: severina pascu evidently had a lot of wrist wringing / re-did the translation 18 times until such gem was polished into its current greatness.
mircea_popescu: nah, rather, "winner" of tournament thingee, now stuck pretending like he's a sorta king sui generis.
mircea_popescu: ie, athlete/lottery winner being convinced by entourage that "he has something to say" in the http://trilema.com/2018/yes-bitch-i-would-bring-it/ vein of world-establishing saying,
asciilifeform: aa, the kind that runs off with 'investor'olade , rather than public coffer
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform nah, entirely different item. this is more http://trilema.com/2014/lets-do-mark-cuban/
mircea_popescu: diana_coman do you happen to recall / still have that poster ?
asciilifeform: was this that very same 'varanul' ? or lesser clone ?
mircea_popescu: ilie nastase ? dood was supposed to be "rich businessman" in a romania that had very much the "luxor center for businessmen" outlook, owing to a complete and utter http://trilema.com/2009/de-mogulibus/#selection-57.0-65.473 , before http://trilema.com/2010/s-o-lamurim-pe-asta-cu-securitatea/#selection-53.0-53.694
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 18:39 mircea_popescu: actually, thinking about it : there was a hysterical poster of 1990s vintage, produced of romanians mocking the blown away reaction of ameritards on contact with romanian workplace mat. because yes, in ro the way to discuss the boss among workers is "that cocksucker", and the customers are very much "those insufferable morons" and so following. but in usg, the manner to address systematic problems is trhough minutia, and so i
asciilifeform wonders whether e.g. that microshit compound in bucharest, is run along http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-08#1893837 trad, or ustard.conventionally ☝︎
asciilifeform: not many folx remember old champ tennisist either
mircea_popescu: nobody even fucking knows such a thing as "laura stone" even existed, except for romanians old enough to recall the 90s.
mircea_popescu: (i know it sounds ridoinculous, but obscure starlet took job to do some show or other in ro and as a result ended up hounded by ~all males, including the "finance minister" (a "technocratic expert" bla bla etcetera), the star soccer player, the star tennis player / chief bisnitar etc.
asciilifeform: ugh wat happened there ? they built a mcd and she took up eating in it ?
mircea_popescu: pity the internet wasn't invented by romanians, it'd have racial resistance to trolling built in by default.
mircea_popescu: sadly i can't seem to locate it anymore. the things you end up missing ;/
mircea_popescu: t went, "dear employees, please do not refer to the hr vp as 'nefututa aia'" and so following to exhaustion.
mircea_popescu: actually, thinking about it : there was a hysterical poster of 1990s vintage, produced of romanians mocking the blown away reaction of ameritards on contact with romanian workplace mat. because yes, in ro the way to discuss the boss among workers is "that cocksucker", and the customers are very much "those insufferable morons" and so following. but in usg, the manner to address systematic problems is trhough minutia, and so i ☟︎
mircea_popescu: but they simply never found the linguistic resources (yes, that's a pun.)
a111: Logged on 2019-02-07 20:05 mircea_popescu: romanians imply various subtle distinction. eg, "gargaun" would be the sort of skittering beetle that digs unseen and ruins structures, like termite or weevil (the folk name of which, "gargarita", very much model for name)
mircea_popescu: notwithstanding it distinguishes among things like http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-07#1893496 is native and automatic. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: (the usgistani model, where "career women" and "corporate life" and what the fuck is ~particularly~ amusing in romania, where the difference between this, http://gothtypes.wikia.com/wiki/Emo_Goth and the lengthy history of male receptive homosexuality social expression can simply not be made.
mircea_popescu: severina pascu evidently had a lot of wrist wringing / re-did the translation 18 times until such gem was polished into its current greatness. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: eh, the divergence between what they put in their reports to shareholders and what's going on irl is aptly summarized by that "which changed the TV program viewing modality" wooden tongue explosion.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: lol! even in ro, '3d tv' ?!
asciilifeform: ( in re the q of how to keep thread from wedging ~each other~, consult dijkstra, not asciilifeform )
asciilifeform: ideally you wouldn't even i/o from a worker thread, imho, only main prog would i/o.
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 18:12 mircea_popescu: they have a whole signalling thing in ada, so you don't have to do the retarded c infinite loop
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-08#1893807 << the 1 concern there is blocking unix i/o calls, these can potentially wedge ( if not wrapped with appropriate timeout ) ☝︎
mircea_popescu: "In May 2011, UPC launched for the first time the 3D technology, which changed the TV program viewing modality."
a111: Logged on 2014-03-25 20:52 mircea_popescu: same thing had the us the ballsack to make iraq the 51st state
mircea_popescu: ugc-europe / "liberty global" being this sorta economic warfare support wing, back in the 90s when they still had a clue re http://btcbase.org/log/2014-03-25#581083 ☝︎
BingoBoingo: The split is more cages without any desktops and cages that are all desktops.
asciilifeform: incidentally virtually all the cages in BingoBoingo's magic cellar contain 1 or moar (old enuff to show yellowing...) desktops/towers
mircea_popescu: prior to that, "astral telecom"
mircea_popescu: nah, they sold out, became https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UPC_Romania
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 17:46 mircea_popescu: the pov prevailed, and their early ad-hoc "dc" in a sovok flat room somewhere contained proper boxed desktops instead of server racks.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-08#1893803 << i was reading this and waiting for the inevitable 'and then one day elbow' but apparently nodice ☝︎
asciilifeform: i.e. even ~there~ you dun have the desired 'thread could have been doing anyffin at all, but can cleanly async-term it' .
a111: Logged on 2018-07-31 16:15 asciilifeform: unix i/o is retarded, if blocking read blocks, it gives you a zombie process , and the next process you start that tried to read same tty, will also become zombie
asciilifeform: incidentally, before $thread is forgotten, oughta add that unix's model of process-killin' is a convincing illusion, but not the Real Thing, given e.g. http://btcbase.org/log/2018-07-31#1838388 ☝︎☟︎
diana_coman: but the whole thing here was more about what completing the job means - which so far is not defined and at any rate it's defined with the Job, not with the worker as it were; anyway, I stumbled on this just as part of usual "poke new things around in all directions"
diana_coman: sure, as the code shows there is no infinite loop anyway yes; workers will wait on Get_Job and that's pretty much
mircea_popescu: they have a whole signalling thing in ada, so you don't have to do the retarded c infinite loop ☟︎
diana_coman: and to clarify just in case there was any doubt: NO, workers are not meant to loop for ever or any such nonsense; BUT I still can't assume that can not happen!
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 17:01 mircea_popescu: the only correct solution to "this program has spawned something it can't kill" is "kill the program then".
diana_coman: http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-08#1893756 -> this makes in fact a lot of sense esp given asciilifeform's observation that indeed, that's an unrecoverable error state; so this sounds good: if child task doesn't die when aborted then kill self (taking the task with self too ofc); I'll experiment with this but afaik so far it should work ☝︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: the pov prevailed, and their early ad-hoc "dc" in a sovok flat room somewhere contained proper boxed desktops instead of server racks. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: and i said "why would you buy these small shits, they don't even have a reset button"
mircea_popescu still recalls discussion in the heart of what later became one of romania's largest isps, when sold to i udn recall who : five dudes each with large-ish ad hoc networks (i suspect you recall those) were talking about pooling, and they needed what in the civilised world is a peering noc, and it was discussed what items to buy
asciilifeform: afaik what passes for comp nowadays ( where 'it dun fit on the pnoje screen!!11' ) often dun even ~have~ a reset.
asciilifeform: used to , at least.
asciilifeform: for extra lulz, asciilifeform's brother introduced the red button to him as 'эникей' , and for yrs later thought this, 'ha, programmers sadistically exhort green n00b to reset cpu'
asciilifeform: https://archive.is/mOXQE << for thread-completeness. iskra kbd. the magic 'anykey' is on upper left hand.
mircea_popescu: but i will not stand for this "can't kill my baby" nonsense.
mircea_popescu: i'm not against a kernel that a) never itself crashes and b) always kills anything i want FOR me, and elegantly.
asciilifeform: it's a bitch tho, what you really want is to lose the wedge, rather than errything you keyed in the past xx min. hence asciilifeform's elaboration of the principle in http://www.loper-os.org/?p=215 .
asciilifeform: ( to the point that the sov pc clone 'iskra', 1st comp i ever laid hands on, actually had a cpu reset key ~on kbd~ , nice big red thing )
asciilifeform: aha, erry dos box i ever owned, i truly 'programmed with the mains switch'
a111: Logged on 2019-02-08 17:05 mircea_popescu: fucking reason i even moved off windows was when i discovered that unlike dos, it does not support this.
asciilifeform: btw in re http://btcbase.org/log/2019-02-08#1893771 , ye olde dos, for all of its virtues, is possibly worst example, when you run yer proggy there, os loses all control, you may as well have booted straight into yer proggy without any os ☝︎
mircea_popescu: yes, of the kind in http://ossasepia.com/2011/01/29/antreprenorii-si-misticismul/#selection-37.0-37.548 and in http://trilema.com/2010/aventurile-zilei/#selection-49.0-49.1103 and more generally http://trilema.com/2017/the-day-of-failure-trilemma/#selection-133.0-133.837
mircea_popescu: and ftr, it's not "coupla decades with broken soft". it's coupla decades interacting socially with the women and children "of" inept http://bimbo.club/2019/02/the-travel-guide/ dorks, so that i'm stuck lowering my backseat window and screaming "does she ever get laid ?!" to mother-daughter couple sutured at the palm-elbow joint.
mircea_popescu: i can buy that.
asciilifeform: otherwise yer running abbatoir, with cows, rather than army.
asciilifeform: rright but with the implicit 'and after kill you, will get new one, who does what was told'