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asciilifeform: diana_coman: this is what i was trying to get across with the 'bad flying only kills a busful, bad program - potentially everyone' example ☟︎
mircea_popescu: diana_coman bad code has much more staying power than good code.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman word!
diana_coman: ahahah, the advantage of mircea_popescu's favourite approach: there will always be tons of garbage to clean off since a cake eaten is at least eaten, but crappy code is rarely totally obliterated
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope, he'd be one of the 9,999 failed everettescus ☟︎
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform or a better question, "would mircea_popescu still be mircea_popescu if he were not mircea_popescu ???"
asciilifeform: would mircea_popescu still be having a ball if he were spending his life cleaning up ruby garbage ?
a111: Logged on 2016-06-11 01:23 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-10#1480685 << no, this is the problem. a bunch of idiots would have to earn bread different way ; and ben_vulpes would be allowed to do something less idiotic with his time. that's the problem whenever derps get the reins - they drive the ship ashore and someone's stuck fishing it back out.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not reversible from food's pov.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: where do we buy a new you, when you spent your whole life buying computers instead of $solving.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 14:51 mircea_popescu: yes, it's broken, NOTICE it's broken, eat the scrambled egg, try again.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: bear the costs? or double-entendre intentional
mircea_popescu: diana_coman certainly not a cake. but it also has this passive "don't touch the instruments" educative value. womenz particularly vulnerable to this crap.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: ACK, and that is cool. i do understand re. master actually working *against* learned helplessness models, at least an *actual* master anyway hm
mircea_popescu: but to the more general point, Framedragger : the master's job is mostly to encourage and support the young woman TO ACTUALLY MAKE CHOICES. which is to say, exactly to distance herself from learned helplessness of the nature of diana_coman 's above mentioned " don't change anything or it might all fall down"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: nope. not the space. and the link is literally a repost
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: sure.. well hm, i can see what you mean; dunno if example is sound, but i prob know even less about pastry heh
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: by default
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the difficult bit is not merely in machine lasting millenium, but in the problem it is solving lasting anywhere near...
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: hmm; but you did supply her with some "aesthetics" feedback, maybe even a floating point value, as in, "better/worse than before", perhaps
mircea_popescu: diana_coman heh.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: if your gurl had to figure out how to grow and harvest wheat, from first principles, you will have no pastry in this millenium
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: optimization problem, where the solver already has very good approximate values for all the params.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman likely, which is the irony here. you can either have schooling for boys, or for girls.
diana_coman: by this model, I'd say that those poor students I failed were actually trying to apply exactly mircea_popescu 's approach!
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 14:26 mircea_popescu: now, it is real easy to grant that "machine can't resolve because irl it takes more neurons than there's atoms in the cpu". but this is a total cop-out, i can string together an infinity of computers, as bitcoin has shown.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman and the answer is obvious : something else dun menstruate.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: do you mean Dolly the cloned sheep? i've heard of it, but only just
mircea_popescu: diana_coman this is a very good point.
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: hahaha :D such reference. ok
mircea_popescu: diana_coman more importantly : they are tools, programmed as tools, expected to deliver untool likethings.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-22 04:02 mircea_popescu: yeah. but that doesn't change the fact the ~only intellectual in the entire north of the continent is that old jew talking to himself in a room.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: there is pretty rich literature of tales re djinn etc who carry out literal words to comical disaster.
asciilifeform: i expect mircea_popescu doesn't use gurlz as hammers either
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: not a thing the machine can ever resolve.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform diana_coman ^ bit from earlier.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 14:13 mircea_popescu: it's shocking how little the school system does to teach anyone anything. but anyway - what the program MEANS should be decided on the basis of what it can't possibly fucking mean,
shinohai: mircea_popescu, reply: https://twitter.com/phildaian/status/745977447233921024
mircea_popescu: diana_coman i can't stand his conventional bullshit. he dared criticise (young) caraqiale for "poor morals" in plays ? the schmuck borrowed on his income months in advance to dress up and bullshit like that. he has a massive vein of "never got over mom" that i loathe in writers.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which same thing?
mircea_popescu: diana_coman this is a dubious assertion, in the same vein we could say "ian murdock did the work, rest did gui" or w/e.
mircea_popescu: diana_coman irl it worked as, to quote famous wilde tidbit, "i leave it to you to to fix the here's and there's".
asciilifeform: and diana_coman has it.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/3103356827666810@naggum.no.html
diana_coman: mircea_popescu> nothing actionable or useful that i can discern. just the simple observation that a) code the size of the body of work of respected past intellectuals is not maintainable by teams or individuals, while the writings were maintainable by the author solo ; b) the correct solution to scale is not increase in rigidity, but flexibility. which is how skyscrapers work or japan defends from earthquakes. <- fwiw the diffe
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: to an extent we have this. consider naggum's c++ liars essay.
asciilifeform: would mircea_popescu like, e.g., pgptron, that maybe-multiplies some maybe-primes if it feels like it hat day in its sim-menstrualcycle?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: what specifically is contemplated here..?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: but shallow market depth
diana_coman: <mircea_popescu> damn i mean, diana_coman how many students can you fail. <- myeah, I know; thing is also: they shouldn't have gotten that high to fail basically, not that many
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: we had this thread also.
mircea_popescu: damn i mean, diana_coman how many students can you fail.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 11:13 mircea_popescu: and b) a RICO-worthy criminal conspiracy, replete with fraud etc, to marginalize, intimidate and if need be assassinate "opponents" as defined by a group of nuts
hanbot: mircea_popescu, tyvm!
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 11:04 mircea_popescu: http://ctrl-d.ro/app/uploads/2016/06/e388bdd9-0bf0-4a26-ba03-02657f521b72.jpg << check out the golf club pattern! which mysteriously disappeared from all literature (ie, fiction writing) on the subject (as well as google, "scientific" paper search engines etc) after it was so humiliatingly debunked.
Framedragger: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1487858 << this i agree with! however, be it as it may i've never seen mp graciously accept to being wrong on some point. now, that *may* be because mp isn't wrong a whole lotta times, i contend, yes; but it's still hilarious to me (in a stimulating kind of way, fwiw). e.g. the chinese konspiraci thing, it was posted on qntra by mircea_popescu, and then later mircea_popescu says the theory is legit becau ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 10:39 mircea_popescu: http://vertis.io/2013/12/06/unauthorised-litecoin-mining.html in other lulz.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 10:30 mircea_popescu: speaking of that, asciilifeform any idea how it's possible that Submissions: 3305302 Known Moduli: 2708380 Moduli Waiting for Test: 3677 ? shouldn't these add up ? ☟︎
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: because monkeys
asciilifeform: diana_coman: it is now taught as official state of the art, believe it:
asciilifeform: diana_coman: we had a thread re programming as medieval medicine. it is in the logs...
asciilifeform: diana_coman: there are maybe 20 programmers then.
asciilifeform: hanbot: what can i say, he didn't buy the 'seekrit evidence' and now sees mircea_popescu as вредитель etc. and very tiresomely repetitive.
diana_coman: asciilifeform> other reason is that most programmers don't write code in the sense that, e.g., mircea_popescu writes essays. instead, they take a shit, and strip away elements of the shit until the compiler is happy and the 'tests' pass. <- fwiw I don't think that those are programmers
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: he's working the stay-behind folks.
asciilifeform: other reason is that most programmers don't write code in the sense that, e.g., mircea_popescu writes essays. instead, they take a shit, and strip away elements of the shit until the compiler is happy and the 'tests' pass.
hanbot: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=23-06-2016#1450871 << mircea_popescu ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 09:54 mircea_popescu: ps : why is "common wisdom" in agreement that "no man could possibly hold 1mn lines of code in head" when i actually have 10mn words worth of trilema articles in my head ?
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-06-23#1487717 << mircea_popescu ~wrote it~. whereas nobody ever has or will write 10mil executable anything with own hands. ☝︎
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: heh can't find much on the internets for "golf club pattern" indeed, but also don't get its initial idea/appeal? O.O
Framedragger: mircea_popescu: if you mean "nobody smart", then that's one thing, but if you mean in terms of actual numbers, then i'd probably have to disagree. shitloads of ecdsa ssh host public keys anyway (stats and breakdown to be published at some point in teh future)
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: what time is it in Argentina?? It's late, isn't? Here is 5 AM.
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: true.
felipelalli: mircea_popescu: why they are so distance from the reality? They continue to buy this shit.
BingoBoingo: https://www.reddit.com/r/Buttcoin/comments/4pflsd/sorry_for_your_harmony_an_ethereum_bagchain/ << I know you have a reddit account, have fun!
asciilifeform: which - whatddoyaknow - confirms that mircea_popescu was partly right, the turd broadcasts a random selection of mempool at all times...
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://btc.yt/lxr/satoshi/source/src/main.cpp?v=asciilifeform_add_verifyall_option#2331 << mechanism in question.
a111: Logged on 2016-06-23 00:30 mircea_popescu: no, if they just throw everything they have randomly at everyone you get exponential chattering-up
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the way to be rid of GB chatter is... to have moar nodez!!
asciilifeform: http://www.pzg.biz/poster_poison_mushroom.htm << for n00bz. ☟︎
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BingoBoingo: $up _FeltPen
a111: Logged on 2015-05-18 23:49 mircea_popescu: admittedly, i'm more like a 1700s mind.
Framedragger: i was just made aware of this term; i wonder if this may help me to conceptualize mircea_popescu in my mind
a111: Logged on 2016-06-22 18:46 mircea_popescu: how THE FUCK do they get away with it. i mean, they still give the bums the sort of stuff bums misrepresenting tghemselves as "students" and "With potential!" get all over the world
a111: Logged on 2015-10-19 21:14 ascii_field: https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/216551-nypd-caught-using-x-ray-vans-to-search-the-public-refuses-court-order-to-release-details << l0l!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: wolfram 'alpha'
a111: Logged on 2016-06-21 01:13 asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i found it especially entertaining how reddit folk (at least used to) believe the 'if only male birth control pill' thing would make any difference (if such thing existed, 'paternity' would simply get redefined, french style, to accomodate cuckoldry)
phf: mircea_popescu: i was trying to describe the kind of thinking that goes into the "linux on desktop" drive
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: linked for the gold nugget: 'It also suggested the creation of a register for smart autonomous robots, which would link each one to funds established to cover its legal liabilities.' << dao!11111111
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: on idiot os without meaningful composability - user is more or less stuck
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: from ui perspective, it means that it scrolls in the same window as if it were plain text. from an exploitation perspective, it means that pdf renderer run whether chumps wants it to or not, just by virtue of him reading the mailz
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: i don't have this luxury. mathematics ~= pdf.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: this is 0day in decompressor lib, per se, used in ~all linux proggies.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yeah but this is quite different. no need to run winblowz and click payload exe.
Framedragger: "This means that to overflow the "unpack_streams" variable we need only have a 7-Zip file with the number of folders "numFolders" larger than 42 and then populate "numUnpackStreams" with sufficient values." heheh
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, ben_vulpes, mod6, et al: zoolag @ 72.83.9.184.
hanbot: lol someone tells mircea_popescu "take care" and: http://trilema.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/03/idea-pie.jpg
mircea_popescu: ascii_deadfiber but nothing is meant!
hanbot: mircea_popescu they prolly shaved their best pencils for that coffee. lapices ain't cheap!