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a111: Logged on 2014-02-16 22:04 asciilifeform: they pass an old man who says, 'don'
t drown this fellow. i'll feed him dumplings, he won'
t have to do any work but to dip them'
mp_en_viaje: i have no idea! conceivably tell him, "dood looky, this is entirely dependent on pgp". not get item you're not satisfied with, i dunno. complain at some point somewhere, so i don'
t find myself in this weird position where i'm asked about things i dunno about and dunno what to say ?
mp_en_viaje: well yeah, it's like domain names say, or hosting or any other such thing. can'
t just discontinue it, nobody knows what priceless jewelry dood has in there.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, eh, listen you. it's very bad form, this infantile "ima start things and forget about them". you didn'
t want it anymore, cuz for whatever reason, can just call the guy and tell him so, not end up with lengthy service you didn'
t want / did not intend to use. or for that matter answers his emails or w/e. wtf expire, who ever heard of such a thing.
BingoBoingo doesn'
t recall obsoleting anything recently
diana_coman: well yes, they certainly started as professional though it's not as if they didn'
t end up political too.
diana_coman: but I have to admit that I wouldn'
t say that I actually have any political experience.
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, so let them end up with controlling share. great wealth comes with great responsibility ; this can'
t be fixed from downstream because oh noes.
a111: Logged on 2018-06-18 15:36 asciilifeform: btw one pheature of lenin & co that gets vehehery little press these days , when folx like to point out 'he didn'
t overthrow , other factions did all the work' : lenin & co refused, out of principle, to participate in any 'temporary government' derpage at all.
diana_coman: others (generally younger) who already have in fact the employer-master taking the food-responsibiliy off their shoulders will look up instead to usr/pdl/wtf (I can'
t quite recall whatever they are nowadays)
diana_coman: re ro politics, while my hometown is one in which ~everything is "political" (petrol industry), that part was always more about feathering X's or Y's nest so I wouldn'
t use that to get an idea of anything; onth re what I see as political, the way the situation in Ro reads to me is that ultimately people are desperately (and beyond i.e. without hope) looking for someone to take responsibility aka a master essentially.
mp_en_viaje: well, if you live there don'
t you have any elders who were ever involved ?
a111: Logged on 2019-05-08 08:53 diana_coman: no; you can however spend it on something else and I somehow never manage to run out of "something else"; but yes, I can see the idea; I don'
t know about who is there to do all the work and get it all growing
diana_coman: I don'
t think there is much that in there; different sorts of ridoinculous as far as I can see i.e. the schmuck that found himself with money vs the schmucks that found themselves "writing a newspaper".
diana_coman: well, hard to believe she hadn'
t previous training ignoring his bla bla so ..
mp_en_viaje: this doesn'
t seem a small thing for me, that if "mp, radu gyr, mircea eliade etc go into a bar... and mp comes up uber alles".
mp_en_viaje: but conversely : if there is someone we'll be none the sorrier for it. and if there isn'
t... what exactly do i have to regret re
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-08#1911779 thing ? that i spent a few grand on getting that party the only headquarters it eve rhad ? or what, some booze some kids drank off me ?
☝︎ diana_coman: no; you can however spend it on something else and I somehow never manage to run out of "something else"; but yes, I can see the idea; I don'
t know about who is there to do all the work and get it all growing
☟︎ mp_en_viaje: well, it;s not already included in any practical sense (as it doesn'
t exist). obv its included in all ideal senses, yes.
diana_coman: mp_en_viaje: as a sort of tmsr.ro ? or what would the difference be exactly as I don'
t quite grok in what way a "political party" is not already included in tmsr as it were
spyked: at the very least teh psds are specialized in drawing votes from the general populace. as for xtians, that's (in my very limited experience) where most people who are not completely retarded lie, and they'll cling to that. but that's only as far as I know (which ain'
t much)
spyked needs to grok this for a bit. otoh, finds the experiment worthwhile, but a. has 0 exp with politics (other than following to some degree the local affairs) and b. doesn'
t know how would the battle on two fronts (i.e. the social-democrats and the xtian socialists) would work strategically
mp_en_viaje: a yeah, deny driver licenses to any who aren;
t either professional drivers or in a liberal profession. and especially to "it experts", actresses/singers/newswomen etcetera.
mp_en_viaje: ah, that was an attempt to help out a pre-existing item. (in fairness, romania hasn'
t had any ideas in 2-3 decades ; as it happens historically the iron guard was ~100% of the romanian modern culture, certainly in the 20th century)
mp_en_viaje: the ultimate problem with debugging -- allows people to exam-take their code design, "oh, doesn'
t work on anything we've not spent year+ debnugging"
mp_en_viaje: sounds like terrible implementation, it shouldn'
t ever throw unclosed tags in an ycase.
mp_en_viaje: just like javascript isn'
t there for "here's an implementation of linux kernel in js", just so php is not there for "here's my recursive elegance" or w/e.
mp_en_viaje: ok, so don'
t use that. just because random plugin was written by tard doesn'
t invalidate either php as a ... text processor, nor wp plugins as an extension framerowkr for mp-wp
BingoBoingo: !Qlater tell pete_dushenski Contravex doesn'
t seem to be loading normally
PeterL: so how does the auction work if auctionbot disappears? Wasn'
t it supposed to be ending about now?
BingoBoingo: They keep saying they don'
t want to go down the Venezuela road while dragging everyone down the Venezuela road
mp_en_viaje: asciilifeform, yes, well, electing a goat to drive bus ain'
t gonna get any busses driven.
mp_en_viaje: brazil can'
t has leadership for lulz or money, fin.
mp_en_viaje: currently sitting with very nice tawny port, coffee etc in elaborate cafe an' "this place would be so nice if it didn'
t have a piano" were the last words out of my mouth.
mp_en_viaje: it occurs to me i had no impulse to seek a public toilet, i can'
t recall since when.
mp_en_viaje: i run into these schmucktards with the "ourdemocracy" beards
all the damned time. "oh, i've been to spain". no, motherfucker, you haven'
t been to spain.
☝︎ phf: i don'
t think cffi is much about support of anything, it's almost always "there's a gnarly C library that i don'
t want to write in lisp, going to make a thin wrapper around, now has support for X
mp_en_viaje: a different flavour of bootstrap problem : extant lisp can'
t bootstrap itself a runtime on extant cpus.
mp_en_viaje: from the contrary perspective : i get it that you folk wanna write lisp. the principal problem seems to be that this can'
t currently be actually done
mp_en_viaje: you KNOW cffi ain'
t the holy grail of ffi. what is it then, such that it is found in general's boot and wench's bellybutton ornament and airplane tip
mp_en_viaje: here, cffi, and why al sorta things that needn'
t are nevertheless brought to depend on it.
mp_en_viaje: kids who want a slavegirl but can'
t afford a slavegirl will sometimes buy a painted pillow and call it susan. but more commonly, and especially if not FUCKING FUCKED IN THE HEAD, they'll just watch older sis shower or something more directly separate.
mp_en_viaje: even in the situation where a) you have to talk to linux and b) you can'
t talk to linux, WHY would you make something that eminently IS NOT a ffi, then call the thing that isn'
t a ffi "ffi" and then purport to use it ?
a111: Logged on 2019-05-06 09:44 phf: spyked:
http://thetarpit.org/posts/y03/05c-development-log-i.html#selection-147.0-153.252 << i've used araneida for early btcbase, i've dropped it in transition from cmucl, but i'd say that it's the least encumbered of the bunch. i don'
t remember it having any "administration interfaces". it's written in the late 90s hacky style, and it's missing functionality (for example i wrote entire form parsing logic when i was trying to add patch
phf: spyked: wookie is not a hunchentoot fork, it's its own thing built around an async ffi. one thing you might want to add to your list is how much ffi-ing is required, or rather how "c heavy" the code is. for example teepeedee2 is extremely fast, but doesn'
t work anywhere but sbcl and linux, because it uses all kinds of libc features.
phf: it doesn'
t have any kind of "architecture", so more than once i've had to hack somewhere deep inside request parsing code in order to support something or other
phf: spyked:
http://thetarpit.org/posts/y03/05c-development-log-i.html#selection-147.0-153.252 << i've used araneida for early btcbase, i've dropped it in transition from cmucl, but i'd say that it's the least encumbered of the bunch. i don'
t remember it having any "administration interfaces". it's written in the late 90s hacky style, and it's missing functionality (for example i wrote entire form parsing logic when i was trying to add patch
☟︎ a111: Logged on 2019-02-05 21:05 diana_coman: speaking of Barnes' Ada book: it IS very useful and I certainly do go back to it quite often still for all sorts but it still has at times such ideas that I can'
t stand; e.g. "The reader will probably feel that the activation mechanism is somewhat elaborate. However, in practice, the details will rarely need to be considered. They are mentioned in order to show that the mechanism is well defined rather than because of their everyday import
danielpbarron: i don'
t own any animals besides my cat, but several fellow church goers have horses and/or cows
danielpbarron: it's my understanding that such a registration also comes with strings attached that we don'
t want attached
danielpbarron: no, we meet in eachother's houses for church and we don'
t register any of them as such
a111: Logged on 2019-05-05 20:29 mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, it wouldn'
t be plain guesstimates. ask each member of the group, "how many sexual encounters did you participate in last year" say, discover the doods had about 3x as much sex as the gals. somehow. nohomo.
mp_en_viaje: diana_coman, it wouldn'
t be plain guesstimates. ask each member of the group, "how many sexual encounters did you participate in last year" say, discover the doods had about 3x as much sex as the gals. somehow. nohomo.
☟︎ diana_coman: the "had what to point to and knew what to ask for" sounds superficially a "point and babble" sort of thing; doesn'
t work quite that well if that's ALL there is to it
mp_en_viaje: consider education : you could sleep in class instead of paying attention. "but why would i ?" "you fucking wouldn'
t, obviously. but if someone did -- will you guard them ?"
diana_coman: heh, fornetti is the universal name for industrialised replacement of replacement in the pastry world; I hadn'
t realised it had spread that far.
mp_en_viaje: nobody's about to order anyone to document all the water -- and by this i mean, asciilifeform ain'
t gonna send himself on such foolish errands, nor you, nor anyone else. let the water be.
mp_en_viaje: (pro tip : of fucking course you can'
t, if you could it'd be therefore cryptographically weak.)
Mocky: Maybe my prior comments were too abrasive / snarky making it difficult to engage, if so that's on me. Or maybe I just don'
t understand. Either way there's no point me trying to continue with the content of an argument that no one can engage with.
mp_en_viaje: to put in in those terms, the problem ain'
t so much that i didn'
t read what you said ; the problem's rather that nor i nor anyone else seems to know ~know~ how to read it.
mp_en_viaje: in any case i'd say just about any single implication you propose doesn'
t follow. elementarily different people having differing views of a patchset on the basis of their seals works just fine with manifest files as without. and so on.
Mocky: and i can also expand later on what's with the 'connecting', tcp? and what's with the directories, protocol on top of tcp? I'm hoping that its figurative and you don'
t literally want to build gns on tcp and
http Mocky: I don'
t have time to expand now before I go, but i can expand later.
Mocky:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-03#1911019 << I stated my assumption, for confirmation, that you can'
t press to both heads, and you answered with "why not?", and I followed up with 'what would that even look like?' I stated in two different ways that I'm talking about sibling patches with the same parent, not 1->2->3. did you even read what i wrote?
☝︎ PeterL: maybe the 10th century southern limit of Lithuania was within the largest extent of AH, but most people don'
t think of that as part of Lithuania
mp_en_viaje stopped at "Public House" 4 star hotel earlier walking about. "i don'
t think they know what public house means", quoth i to my girls. "of course we do!" quoth reception desk gal.
a111: Logged on 2018-11-01 01:08 mircea_popescu: they don'
t got the guts to qatar/burma anymore, that's for damn sure.
diana_coman: and the contents of the manifest file itself are obtained from pressing a tree so it's not like you get mismatch tree <-> manifest and a tangle or I don'
t see it
diana_coman: and a sig on a patch to my mind can'
t anyway be in isolation like that, "just this patch here is fine but I have no idea of what is being patched"
diana_coman: fwiw I don'
t get what the issue is there and what does the manifest have to do with anything
mp_en_viaje: indeed, if the set of signatures in your seals dir signs a bunch of different possible trees, the situation becomes ambiguous. i was saying, i don'
t think this is a problem at all (if for no other reason, then because either the user cares or doesn'
t care. if he does care he can just sign whichever he prefers, then put his own signature in the seals and presto. if he does not care then he doesn'
t care.)
Mocky: so re your patches example, if patch 2 & 3 both declare patch 1 as parent, and I have wot keys for all a - f, I can'
t press to both heads correct?
a111: Logged on 2019-05-03 04:27 Mocky: I see embrace and extinguish as more appropriate for dns destruction (ala a dnsmasq-esque approach) than isolated bunkers. I mean, i could have joined up with republic prime instead, but they already completed work on gns prime, and maybe they passed out ip based links for a while, but eventually pulled up the ladders to their tree forts and now they can'
t even be found. So who knows if republic prime or double prime even exists.
mp_en_viaje:
http://btcbase.org/log/2019-05-03#1910987 > i haven'
t used civillian dns for what, two years now. i dont' care to, either. this usecase is massively more important than "fetlife slut". for one thing, fetlife slut ain'
t reading anything anyway ; for the other thing, nothing forces you to limit yourself to gns if you don'
t want to.
☝︎ a111: Logged on 2019-05-03 03:18 Mocky:
http://btcbase.org/log/2018-11-24#1874402 << this suggests that each key holder can only host $key/gns at one ip address. And what about vpatch ordering and the v manifest file? If i have an entry for archive.is and want to change that entry, I can'
t just make and sign a patch of my own, i have to patch on top of the 'consensus' press, otherwise manifest won'
t match and can'
t press multiple heads. Am I wrong about how that works?
diana_coman: Mocky: isn'
t the "right one" dns client you're talking about simply a bridge? i.e. sure, have as many bridges as you want, too, what exactly is the problem?