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mircea_popescu: because you CAN NOT have such a thing as untreated item in code.
asciilifeform: you solve the problem by beating people with a stick, who emit the shit style.
mircea_popescu: "no other char than tab up until the first alphanum in each line" is a fine rule ; and if someone discovers that he can't press his homebrew let someone fix his homebrew.
mircea_popescu: i am NOT looking at difflists saying "and then special snowflake added a space and took out a tab"
mircea_popescu: code is not natural language. code is a highly structured, deliberately limited-expressive form of language. what is said re http://trilema.com/2010/hai-sa-studiem-gramatica-impreuna/#selection-99.0-99.995 goes triple for code
mircea_popescu: the "backward compatibility" argument is no argument but a red herring. i will not break shit to match microsoft's sad history.
asciilifeform: not all failures are immediate/detectable before it costs a battleship.
mircea_popescu: which is something that was blunderingly and un-intelligently a red thread throughout coding ever since linux opened its eyes.
asciilifeform: i guarantee that the 'autofix' will break something, somewhere, at some point, in a difficult-to-detect way.
mircea_popescu: the way this'd work would be as a list of rules ("no two consecutive spaces" or whatever) which the sources are checked against BEFORE diffing. should the check fail the options are either to propagate the fail ("file x not in format" error) or else to autofix (which'd work via sed).
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 17:35 trinque: hm, dunno whether I want to execute someone's script during a press.
asciilifeform: sanity will involve a much greater degree of kitchen-toilet-separation than seen today.
mircea_popescu: ofcoruse such a thing can not exist until we actually make tmsr-computer without dma
mircea_popescu: secure memory as a concept is actually pretty good, if implemented correctly. implemented as "not swapped" it's not useful, but if it were "untouchable by any other" it'd be useful.
trinque: hm, dunno whether I want to execute someone's script during a press. ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 17:13 mircea_popescu: and yes, the original holder threads were never meaningfully revisited. this is a 10yo suture wound with the first silks still attached.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754329 << ben_vulpes had pretty good likbez, http://cascadianhacker.com/21_a-tour-of-bitcoind-booting-to-its-first-thread ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2015-05-20 00:29 mod6: take a look at this: http://dpaste.com/0SQPBKC.txt Is there any reason when allocating the space for p & q to do Eulers totient they would initialize the space with 'p' and 'p', instead of 'p' & 'q'?
diana_coman: in "only 2 years later" but since I did not find otherwise in the logs an answer to mod6's question at http://btcbase.org/log/2015-05-20#1139680 : that is simply the number of limbs, so a matter of size; since p and q are same size, it is fine there although arguably not helping the reader ☝︎
mircea_popescu: it's a metaphore!
mircea_popescu: and yes, the original holder threads were never meaningfully revisited. this is a 10yo suture wound with the first silks still attached. ☟︎
shinohai: That sucks, ou'll have to grow a fuckton of chrysanthemums and extract our own.
trinque: mod6: this will probably end up being a separate branch. my needs with deedbot are diverging from "preserve grandfather's pistol".
trinque awakes to see a trb node with wallet excised, synced to 200k
mircea_popescu: yes. but it is a conceptual failure on the part of diff that it presents these.
phf: for example i have a set of patches that i've not had a chance to cleanup, that diff mp's addition on top of the released version of wordpress. that patchset could only by successfully produced by ignoring whitespace changes, and adding a handful of filters for cosmetic alterations
phf: that's true, though "ignore" functionality can still work. in fact nuking all that stuff means that i will still need a traditional differ for code manipulation
asciilifeform: phf: there's no place for 'merge' as a concept in a vtronic system.
phf: yeah, but killing obviously bad code is so much easier then killing a not bad code that you don't need
asciilifeform: a patch either applies cleanly or something is Very Wrong
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 16:26 mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754215 << there's always a better path through history with retrospective power.
asciilifeform: as mircea_popescu quickly figured out, asciilifeform's interest in boats is of a very peculiar kind, and not simply because he likes water.
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754265 << haven't yet seen uruguay, nope. but also haven't yet a boat. ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 15:28 danielpbarron: i've got over 1k USD in sales in just a week, but the last auction finished with no bids
mircea_popescu: what am i supposed to say now, "if only i had five more and pushed them harder, i could buy a las vegas casino ?"
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 15:21 danielpbarron: glad i replaced them but to be perfectly honest i'd have been better off keeping both the bitcoin spent while also buying the re-up. I justify it as a hedge against possible bitcoin price decrease and as a public service for the republic
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754215 << there's always a better path through history with retrospective power. ☝︎☟︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 06:18 mircea_popescu: but yes, this comes with the necessity of considering eg http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751602 as "a coin has been minted" ; i don't see http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1753931 as anything other than an abstract rendering of the exact practical reality
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754144 << misstated. "a coin has been ~spent~". obviously it was minted whenever the fuck the possibility of having the item appeared, which is probably before the big bang. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1754158 << if only. he has a point, they're not all the same thing. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: a few months after we standardized it (and without reference, OF COURSE)
asciilifeform: 'wyse' made a series of gui-terminals , but with sata disk , fanless , based on very similar mobo to 'pcengines' ☟︎
asciilifeform: btw asciilifeform will reveal that he found a 'new' (to him) and very spiffy type of amd g-series box , suitable for trb and similar
asciilifeform: what's the use of a 1 gig ssd
danielpbarron: hey if any hardware distributor has that qty of the thing we want, i can probably afford to pay for it in bitcoin and recieve a pallet
danielpbarron: i'm working on a laptop now and of course my recipe doesn't work again. I'm gonna try cp -r'ing the distfiles in from a working box for the initial setup
BingoBoingo: Ah, have you outlined a box you can build arbitrary quantities off using off the shelf parts?
danielpbarron: bought a bunch of things that asciilifeform mentioned. hp workstations with operteron cpus, ecc ram. got a bunch of 1 gig ssds etc
BingoBoingo: What kind of hardware are you building those with? As ISP develops would be nice to know what a republican box builder is offering.
danielpbarron: someone expressed interest in a gentoo laptop though, so that's my next eBay project
danielpbarron: i've got over 1k USD in sales in just a week, but the last auction finished with no bids ☟︎
danielpbarron: it's unlikely i will ever have a fiat income again
danielpbarron: but if i'm gonna go down that road, shoulda bought 1k BTC for 1 USD. should have lived off ramen noodles for the last 7 years while i put all income into a wallet.dat
danielpbarron: glad i replaced them but to be perfectly honest i'd have been better off keeping both the bitcoin spent while also buying the re-up. I justify it as a hedge against possible bitcoin price decrease and as a public service for the republic ☟︎
The20YearIRCloud: Correct, never was, it's a real estate business
asciilifeform: oook so it isn't a btc biznisss at all...
The20YearIRCloud: From property income? Then yes if you consider the USD. From the outset I explained to everyone that we'd be dealing primarily in USD, accepting BTC from tenants wherever possible. As of today I've had a grand sum of 3 people ask me about truly getting involved in bitcoin
asciilifeform: unless i'm missing something, that sounds like a terrible deal
The20YearIRCloud: Yeah but I'm voiced, must be a early Christmas present?
The20YearIRCloud: It's a Christmas Miracle!
BingoBoingo: Not to mention when apartment time comes it presents a ready opportunity for remediating the issue
BingoBoingo: International travel is a dirty business.
asciilifeform: lemme know when yer ready to take a box
BingoBoingo: But the fellow I talked to recieved a clear understanding of what I am and am not looking for.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 01:37 mircea_popescu is thinking of actually starting a chivalry order.
mircea_popescu: that you don't "need to make a coin" for this should be evident, in the sense that the "coin" already exists. (not to mention -- http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-18#1752985 ) ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 02:52 asciilifeform: to round out the crackpottery : i've described what is more or less a working variant of ye olde warcrime, the multiverse coin
a111: Logged on 2017-12-14 19:42 mircea_popescu: phf are you amenable to re-writing diff btw ? http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-06#1747792 is going to happen later this year, and v-immutability is a pita.
mircea_popescu: but yes, this comes with the necessity of considering eg http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-14#1751602 as "a coin has been minted" ; i don't see http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-19#1753931 as anything other than an abstract rendering of the exact practical reality ☝︎☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes look into teh whole medieval history. two salient points : a) "honor", especially "why would it be said that the enchroaching of king into chivalry through pretense of fons honorum actually destroyed it" ; b) tenement, especially in the sense of subinfeudation.
a111: Logged on 2016-10-21 01:10 mircea_popescu: it'd be literally a measure of social intercourse
asciilifeform: btw iirc we had a mechanical clock collector d00d... pete_dushenski ?
asciilifeform: dunno, rubidium clock costs nomoar than a typical comp
mircea_popescu: for a while it was church tower, same inca principle.
asciilifeform: folx spit on quartz resonators, but they're a quite remarkable thing.
mircea_popescu: consider, making a clock that works equally well over 1e20 time units,
mircea_popescu: now, the accomplishment here is that it tied a theoretical model to future development in reality.
mircea_popescu: machinery that behaves as intended over a large range of inputs impresses me. this isn't mandatory for anyone.
mircea_popescu: not much of a machinery.
asciilifeform: if all you want is range, can say that a glass bottle as easily holds 1 molecule of water, as....
mircea_popescu: very halpful, look, a pdf.
mircea_popescu: and if you're proposing 2017 vintage intel cpu works anything like a diode you're in for a world of hurt.
mircea_popescu: you do not encounter a phenomena where you go from 1 to 1e20 smoothly.
asciilifeform: how could they move ? it's a pretty hard thermostat
asciilifeform: scaled all the way into becoming a chinese national property.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform up to a point. if they came up with say riemann falsification , you'd care.
mircea_popescu: well... call it a bootstrap
mircea_popescu: but it'd seem that in point of fact what is needed is a reliable description of all factual existence.
a111: Logged on 2017-12-18 23:33 asciilifeform: after 5yr of thinking about it daily, asciilifeform still has nfi what even ought to be asked of a pow !!
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform coins moved is a phenomenology function. worldfunction must discuss states.
mircea_popescu: (in the discussion re http://trilema.com/2016/the-necessary-prerequisite-for-any-change-to-the-bitcoin-protocol/ the item involved is a more elaborate... world function.)
mircea_popescu: anyway, one approach might be to a) create a scalar worldfunction and b) force reference to the discrete value of it. which is what pow ineptly tries to do.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform but this just makes us a larger mp, you understand ? girl going "hail master, i am yours to command" does not resolve the problem.
mircea_popescu: it's a whole game of dumbass.
mircea_popescu: no it's not a solution. it reduces to "bring your own missing parts of this bitcoin"
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: 'don't be in a cave' is not solution ?
mircea_popescu: i don't want a different flavour of footshooting musket.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: your picture seems to be a variant of the 'isolated node' argument. except nao with the sides reversed
a111: Logged on 2017-12-19 03:37 phf: trick question, why do you need a signal handler in a differ?
asciilifeform: when you craft a tx, it presupposes 1 particular history.