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cazalla: bingo_bar ya should be drinking and chatting to the honeys not irc nerds
scoopbot_revived: The actual state of the Bitcoin network http://trilema.com/2015/the-actual-state-of-the-bitcoin-network/
Chicago: Hey thanks, Whats the topic this hour?
decimation remembers fondly going to the video rental store to rent nintendo games ☟︎
asciilifeform: (sega actually made a pc! with built-in 'genesis' ! and it even shared memory with the pc, somehow. unknown outside of jp)
asciilifeform: they declined to fight in the 8bit comp wars, and... we still have a nintendo co. to kick around
asciilifeform: when i heard of it, i couldn't help but parse it as 'famine' rather than the intended 'family' - console
decimation: for some reason they declined to enter the 'cheap computer wars'
asciilifeform: it was one of the things that made me go 'folks played games on machines without keyboard ?!! how??!'
decimation: although the menu scroll became annoying
decimation: asciilifeform: did you even play 'romance of the three kingdoms' on nintendo?
decimation: yeah as i recall he took mercury pills
asciilifeform: died, iirc, of one too many 'immortality pills'
decimation: yeah, according to la wik the traditional historiography focuses on his immortality 'schemes'
asciilifeform: esp. re: the 'immortality' business
asciilifeform: decimation: mega-emperor. to me he is ~the~ emperor of cn, very overworked subject in books on the place i had as a kid
assbot: Qin Shi Huang - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRwx5O )
decimation: heh from la wik: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qin_Shi_Huang < "Mao Zedong, chairman of the People's Republic of China, was reviled for his persecution of intellectuals. On being compared to the First Emperor, Mao responded: "He buried 460 scholars alive; we have buried forty-six thousand scholars alive... You [intellectuals] revile us for being Qin Shi Huangs. You are wrong. We have surpassed Qin Shi Huang a hundredfold. When you ber
decimation: apparently they don't wanna open the tomb until they can be sure they won't ruin it
decimation: whose tomb is apparently still intact, and is rumored to contain an entire map of china with all the rivers made of mercury
decimation: ^ the king (Ying Zheng) was the guy buried with a massive terra cotta army
decimation: And so Wang Jian kept sending messenger asking for stuff, and the King never suspected his loyalty. He liked his pettiness. Wang Jian went forward to invade Chu, destroy its armies, capture his king, and annexed the country into the soon to be Qin Empire. He went back home, and very unusual in a famous general, died a peaceful death.
decimation: And even if he doesn?t ask himself, there?s always an annoying eunuch paid by a rival general trying to backstab me, saying that I am famous and honorable, and that the opposition might rally around me, that I?m too powerful and must be killed sooner rather than later. Only by openly displaying that I am a vile, corrupt character who only cares about money, can I make the king trust that I have no higher ambition.?
decimation: ?You don?t get it?, says General Wang. ?The emperor is a suspicious man. He doesn?t trust anyone. Right now I have under my command 600,000 men, the entire army of the country. Every once in a while he must be asking himself: ?What if this Wang Jian guy rebels against me??."
assbot: Giving the handle | Bloody shovel ... ( http://bit.ly/1SRvDpW )
decimation: I think he might actually live in china
decimation: he's one of those on the fringe of the 'reactionaries'
mircea_popescu: i dunno about spandrell ever, but who cartes. "note that altman is gay in tech and that didn't save him" ? fu nutso boi.
decimation: ah I thought you meant spandrell
mircea_popescu: not a point sam altman may ever have. his points, such as they are, must be of an entirely different nature.
mircea_popescu: what's next, "quisling has a point - people should stand up for what they believe in" ?
mircea_popescu: he is part of the entire shebang pushing "twitter as a business - business as a twitter"
mircea_popescu: he does not get to avail himself of this soundness.
decimation: well, his reasoning is sound, people have no business on twitter
mircea_popescu: nevertheless, "We shall drown, and nobody will save us" is exactly right. they shall, drown. nobody will, save them.
mircea_popescu: singing "you've made your one nail bed, now lie in it" to a happy tune.
mircea_popescu eagerly pushing the sword in every chance he gets.
mircea_popescu: the entire shitfest is going to be killed by its own methods.
mircea_popescu: "runs for them a short part of the way and for us the whole way". ☟︎
decimation: https://bloodyshovel.wordpress.com/2015/06/17/public-speech-is-a-bad-idea/ < heh, even 'gay in tech' sam altman loses against sjw
decimation: asciilifeform: I don't see any crypto code in the javascript, but it's not a very familiar language. I do see an input form with a submit mechanism
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform as there's two. "version" : 60200, "protocolversion" : 60001, for instance
mircea_popescu: not the client version tho, the proto version.
decimation: asciilifeform: wait the server gens the whole key?
mircea_popescu: (server itself is declaring 60001, and im unsure what the foundation nodes will say. 50001 maybe ?)
asciilifeform: did nobody ~read~ the src!
mircea_popescu: version 70002 - 50 version 70001 - 9 version 60001 - 9 version 60000 - 1 Total - 69
asciilifeform is not proud of having that thing live in his head now - it's gotta be good for something like mental equivalent of 'black lung disease' - but it can be handy
assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 02:16:03; mircea_popescu: ;;later tell ben_vulpes incidentally, were you explicitly setting -irc Find peers using internet relay chat (default: 0) flag ?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178572 << this is ~not~ in 0.5.3. it had only '-noirc', default off. ☝︎☟︎
decimation: don't tell me it's from server
decimation: yeah I was about to ask where the entropy for the rng comes from
asciilifeform: 1) did you read the thing. ~every time you loaded it~ 2) does your browser access /dev/random ?
asciilifeform: doesn't need to
decimation: it's possible it doesn't upload the privkey immediate
asciilifeform: immediately stupid in the same way keybase is
decimation: other than "why?"
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178541 << how many 'keybases' are there even. ☝︎
decimation: it's more stable than eurusd
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assbot: Logged on 27-06-2015 02:46:03; decimation: delete all txns without valid blocks on disk?
asciilifeform: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=27-06-2015#1178590 << tx nuke does this ☝︎
asciilifeform: decimation: 8xx is grad class, they don't let civilians in
decimation: asciilifeform: you should audit the class
assbot: Logged on 26-06-2015 07:14:51; BingoBoingo: Some BUtuchyag grade Fatlogic. Measuring HamPlanets in pounds AND GALLONS, by their own request https://slimgur.com/images/2015/06/26/726940d391d962a57fc6f5f1e83092c4.jpg
decimation: delete all txns without valid blocks on disk? ☟︎
mircea_popescu: i linked you lol, i dun need to guess
asciilifeform: under 'Closing, as it "works as intended". Pull requests to speed up block downloading are on the way and could use testing, see #2964.'
asciilifeform: aaaand notice what the bugger proposes as 'solution on the way'
asciilifeform: in fact, this ~is~ the bastards thing innit.
asciilifeform: almost certain i've seen the effect.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: the article or the effect described therein ?
assbot: already have block - causing bandwidth to be wasted - vicious circle? · Issue #1120 · bitcoin/bitcoin · GitHub ... ( http://bit.ly/1TTgCpc )
mircea_popescu: ;;later tell ben_vulpes incidentally, were you explicitly setting -irc Find peers using internet relay chat (default: 0) flag ? ☟︎☟︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: yes, vegetal goop is potable. no, there's no reason to pay 95 bux or w/e
mircea_popescu: they're selling two gallon potable extract
mircea_popescu: this thing is strictly separated from any consideration but sales.
decimation: but often these mlm schemes charge $$$ for dubious products
mircea_popescu: (/me has once rescued a well bosomed oyung lady from their old womanly clutches)
mircea_popescu: no, thereeis scam
mats: it looks like its all js but i have a shallow understanding of how things in the browser work
decimation: mats: is that server-side or does it generate key in javascript?
mircea_popescu: i thought that btcentralplus.com thing is in england.
jurov: the PGP monkeys just did not foresaw any need to put into signature hash of signed document alone
mod6: oh, is that per the RFC you pastd?
jurov: mod6 they append date and whatnot to data prior to hashing anyway ☟︎
mod6: i can't figure out how to get the hash out either, the best i've seen is that "digest algo 10, best of digest 23 49" gives you 2 bytes.
jurov: asciilifeform: ^ we're back to using our own patch hashes somehow
jurov: ^ so the sig is useless for out purposes
jurov: The concatenation of the data to be signed, the signature type, *and creation time* ... is hashed.
cazalla: can't help but think of this scene when somebody asks what the fuck type of person are you? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TaBP522x0xI
assbot: Logged on 26-06-2015 22:04:45; ielo: mircea_popescu, you are the fuckface what the fuck have you done for bitcoin? you literally called an asian woman a gookface, what the fuck kind of person are you?
cazalla: http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=26-06-2015#1178406 <<< eh that was me! ☝︎
trinque: "presentation types" << o hey look another thing I built shittily in der database
jurov: and no pkcs py decoding code in sight. apparently imma invert this by hand: https://github.com/bdauvergne/python-pkcs1/blob/master/pkcs1/emsa_pkcs1_v15.py
trinque: ;;later tell felipelalli your doc went through
jurov: mats, since the python one is written to be "inspired by C pgpdump", it's very likely it does not, too
trinque: that iirc might've caused problems with *other* characters (though I don't recall which) so someone ping me if they have trouble with that in the future.
trinque: I "fixed" that by telling python-gnupg to use utf-8 internally as per their docs
mod6: ah, well, if you hvae a solid inet connection you can always try scp as a last resort if you have a shell on the target environment too.