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ascii_field: pete_dushenski: and where ~you~ buy it,
that wouldn't cost me
the price of a fleet of 'boeings'
to get
to...
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: if you believe
that i'm overpaying for something, i'd like
to hear - for what
funkenstein_: only in so much as farmers and homeowners accept
their counterfeits
☟︎ pete_dushenski: funkenstein_:
to
the extent
that
the federal reserve is a counterfeiter,
they most certainly control food (monsanto) and bedding (housing bubble)
pete_dushenski: ascii_field:
this comes back again
to
the amount of $$$ you imagine is needed
to 'eat like king'
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: capital in
the sense of machine-that-lets-you-eat-without-working
pete_dushenski: trinque: most certainly. sounds like a swell idea
to me.
ascii_field: if i'm not paid enough
to 'reallocate capital' -
to borrow mircea's
terminology -
than i am in same category as
the 'room & board' folks
trinque: it'd be a vast improvement for
their lives
trinque: pete_dushenski: I had
this notion regarding
the bums all over portland,
that someone should
take
them
to nearby farms for day labor in exchange for meals, showers, and somewhere
to be warehoused at night.
☟︎ ascii_field: (access
to 'posh' jobs, fewer beatings, etc)
ascii_field: (at one point, a variant of paper reichsmark, but at all
times - smokes)
ascii_field: in
that case, even in auschwitz folks didn't work for 'only room and board'
decimation: ascii
they give a little walking-around money
too
decimation: well, I was
thinking of when all value passes
through
the bitcoin hole
decimation: why would
they when
they can make $30-60k for being 'poor'
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: not sure
this will show any symptoms of happening any
time prior
to
the die-off
pete_dushenski: decimation: ascii_field until people will
take 'room and board' as compensation
decimation: pete_dushenski:
the problem is
that usg bids up
the price of otherwise servant labor
shinohai: someone should write
that in perl
punkman: ascii_field, probably a few of
those
ascii_field: punkman: is
there one
that isn't in a shitlang ?
decimation: it would be neat if bitcoind could generate
the same kinds of stats as blockchain.info
pete_dushenski: decimation: well, it's a robot, not
that bright y'know
phf: i was exploring block storage format, so i wrote some lisp code
to read blocks out of .dat in sequence or directly from dumpblock'ed file
http://paste.lisp.org/+38JG. i'm not sure where i'm going with it, so i'm leaving it here for interested parties.
☟︎☟︎ decimation: like, why can't I communicate
the blockchain
to anyone I wish, in any way I wish
decimation: actually I would pay good money for a robot
that could wonder
through a yard and pull weeds
☟︎ decimation: maybe in
the future all farms will be owned by ADM, dept of usg agriculture
decimation: because 1/1000 is
too many working on
the farms
decimation: yeah, I was
talking with a farmer once, apparently john deere etc are investing heavily in fully autonomous
tractors
ascii_field: can't wait for
the first famine directly
traceable
to winblowz
pete_dushenski: punkman: ah yes, how farmers don't own
the
tools of
their
trade. sad story,
that.
☟︎ BingoBoingo: ascii_field: It's a workalike. Apparently had a few previous names it burned
through before
they decided
to just wait for reddit
to kill itself.
assbot: Logged on 22-06-2015 13:43:47; punkman: "Poole said
that one neighbor using self-driving
technology downloaded a software update
that disabled his
tractor for a week in
the middle of planting season
this spring. If a system is working, farmers will often hold off on updates rather
than risk complications"
pete_dushenski: computers aren't rakes nor
tractors, but
they're fantastic noise machines.
ascii_field: pete_dushenski: in
the sense of 'sorry, wasn't us, it was
this bug'
ascii_field: afaik nobody predicted
that ~dysfunctional~ computing would be
the mechanism
ascii_field: now, plenty of folks predicted 'computer
tyranny' - e.g, weizenbaum (of 'eliza' !) in his '70s 'computer power and human reason' - but,
pete_dushenski: then a huntin' i shall go, a huntin' i shall go, hi ho
the marry-o, a huntin' i shall go.
ascii_field: in
the sense of applicability
to pete_dushenski's favourite subjects
ascii_field: i dare say mr k's
thing is a bit more... current
pete_dushenski: ascii_field: will add
to roster of your mega-recommendations
pete_dushenski: i knew of his
two auto-biographies from his youth and early middle age
pete_dushenski: not gonna fly, obviously, but hey, rat always
tries
to swim before sinking
pete_dushenski: ^usg
tries
to make p2p bitcoin
transactions only legal using x in y place
assbot: Apple Working on new Apple Pay Wallet service for Person-to-Person Financial
Transactions - Patently Apple ... (
http://bit.ly/1Iz7DoE )
pete_dushenski: which, i suppose, only works when
those bezzlars are being
traded
to back breaking labour across
the pond somewheres
ascii_field: 'straight dole' only works if coolies are breaking
their backs somewhere
ascii_field: 'What if, for at least one meal per day,
those 50 million people were invited
to come
to a social meal?' << kolhoz !!
pete_dushenski: "We have 50 million people getting food stamps. What if, for at least one meal per day,
those 50 million people were invited
to come
to a social meal?
The same deal with SSDI. We could offer enhanced SSDI benefits for
those who move
to an “SSDI party village” where at least half of
the neighbors are also on SSDI."
pete_dushenski: ^greenspun rehashing
the 'usa becomes africa just like it always wanted'
thing from
the logs
pete_dushenski: "As
there seems
to be a political consensus in
the U.S. around raising minimum wage
to $12-15/hour, if we assume
that Americans as a whole will respond
to economic incentives in
the same way as
those who live in Puerto Rico, presumably
the 50 states in 10 years will look like Puerto Rico
today"
BingoBoingo: mats:
The actual evidence filmed supports
the
thesis
that given
the opportunity no one wants
to work in fast food.
BingoBoingo: <mats>
thesis: maybe porn should be regulated so 18 year old girls can't do
torture porn because maybe
they're being exploited << Honestly
the documentary's content doesn't seem
to support
that point even
though it advocates
that point.
funkenstein_: eric michael johnson is good blogger,
thanks for link :)
ascii_field: (persist
to disk with something like 'elephant')
ascii_field: ;;later
tell ben_vulpes have you considered a blockchain
to... s-expression !
tool
assbot: Logged on 03-07-2015 13:47:19; ben_vulpes: decimation: now is when i confess
to a quarter-implemented blockchain->relational db importer
shinohai: I also like
that it doesn't use up a fuckton of memory and bandwidth during sync xD
mats: thesis: maybe porn should be regulated so 18 year old girls can't do
torture porn because maybe
they're being exploited
shinohai: resyncing
to
the mp node only, I am impressed with
the speed at which I am syncing.
kakobrekla:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-33378778 <<
The Catholic Church wrote in comments submitted after
the bill was proposed: "Should freedom of expression go so far as
to mean
that
the identity of a person of faith can be freely insulted,
then personal freedom - as individuals or groups - is undermined."
assbot: Logged on 02-07-2015 22:27:27; mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=02-07-2015#1184001 << well, look it up.
there's a present risk of suffocation, and most sudden infant death correlates with shared sleeping arrangements. baby should have a cot, something. even if it's just a sling hanging off a hook by side of your bed.
decimation: I would pay more for someone who didn't know how
to program 'front-end'
ben_vulpes: you'll spend less,
they'll work less, and your systems will be vastly better for not having mongo in
them
ben_vulpes: man you can get a sql user (not an expert, mind you, but someone who understands it has used it and can avoid common retardations) at half
time for approximately half
the cost of some hotshit "full stack developer" who
thinks mongo's a good idea