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asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: his 700 is smaller, actually, than the last time i priced 100/100/1U in usa, was 1000+
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1773051 << where did i say 'bw is free' or that i compare with spam vps ? trinque posted a heathendom figure of 700 ( trinque can answer when he wakes up , for what bw, i presume 100/100 ) for comparison. ☝︎☟︎
mircea_popescu: eh, it's unlikely they do it any other way. alright then, so the draft plan here is, get the rack, 900 + 900, and the 20/200 option to start with, for a total of $3223 payable i ncash which you can actually raise by going in the local market ?
BingoBoingo: I am asking if it is a typo, awaiting response.
mircea_popescu: so either i'm misunderstanding some4thing or there's a typo in this post : 20/200 mbps (downlink/uplink) ie the server can RECEIVE 10 times as much as it can SEND ? this is backwards from practice.
shinohai: Been a long time since I've been around motorbikes, but yes.
BingoBoingo: <asciilifeform> BingoBoingo: how many datacentres in uruguay ? what % have you spoken to ? << Others have international (i.e. US) presence
trinque: this btw after I ignored him for a week
asciilifeform: tho i cannot immediately tell how it came out.
a111: Logged on 2017-11-17 04:55 asciilifeform: i can picture the backroom convo, 'hey how many zeros can we glue to the gringo's price'
asciilifeform: i dun recall ever seeing a price like this outside of satellite market.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-18#1772348 << well, i'd say ok let's take it, except for the issue where we can't actually pay them. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: hey, they paid me i dun recall how many mns exactly to fuck their mit boobs, what's another fraction.
asciilifeform: incidentally, i picked up a lulb00k from a bankrupt shop , 'молдавский язык' , chisinau , 1990 . even has 'history' intro. guess of what country, 0 mention.
mircea_popescu: i know.
asciilifeform: yea holyfuq i had nfi that the 8legged 'horses' on romars also tgdyk'd !11!
mircea_popescu: i had no idea this is how you say horse gallop in russian. it's same in romanian too!
mircea_popescu: every indian ever set out to, as far as i know.
asciilifeform: i have yet to meet the man who ~wanted~ to be oscillator tho.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-19 02:22 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, he's evidently not useful. but he's not a logic gate, either. he's certainly not human. the fundamental identification/classification of "i will deliver result X through randomly chosen path each time" is... rng. at least to my mind.
mircea_popescu: apparently did some work on smoothness, i had nfi, but anyway.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-17#1772202 << i would not go as far, theoretical physics. ☝︎
mircea_popescu: possibly also i'm like... hey, i recall this idiocy from 2012, seriously rando just discovered bitcoin today, is retracing 2012 with all the ingenuity of virgin at the altar ? how fucking endearing, /sarcasm
mircea_popescu: just different levels of lazy, as i'm not done with log yet and you are lol.
mircea_popescu: i dun think we do.
asciilifeform: i dunno that we actually disagree, lol
asciilifeform: whereas when i say 'this box is oscillator' it has a rigorous meaning. it means that i can draw the spectrum, and it is peaky.
asciilifeform: ( if i knock it down, i cannot immediately say how it will fall... )
asciilifeform: i meant in the sense where e.g. the clock crystal on the fg, is not itself an rng. even tho it has jitter.
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform no, he's evidently not useful. but he's not a logic gate, either. he's certainly not human. the fundamental identification/classification of "i will deliver result X through randomly chosen path each time" is... rng. at least to my mind. ☟︎
mircea_popescu: what is it, i don't get it. yes, but that's evidently not the interesting part nor can it. hence the original, http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-19#1772909 ☝︎
asciilifeform: it ain't an rng if i can compress the output .
mircea_popescu: i don't get it ?
mircea_popescu: yarvin opted for the latter ; this one may be too thick to notice yet, or whatever, i've not looked.
asciilifeform: if i observed an actual ( per http://btcbase.org/log/2017-05-23#1660274 thread ) , vs merely hallucinated -- would demand explanation yes ☝︎
mircea_popescu: i have no idea why rational behaviour would be expected, or rational explanation for misbehaviour would be demanded of items that clearly lack either agency or reflective capacity.
asciilifeform: i have deeply nfi. for all i know motl lives in luxury.
mircea_popescu: i suspect the "inteligentsia" as it dreams itself has meanwhile redefined intellectual discourse to equate the above wank.
asciilifeform: i suspect that most of these folx are.. physiologically incapable of touching a subj that hasn't been tonywashed.
mircea_popescu: "Tony told me I was a statist because I am a critic of the Bitcoin. Tony isn't the only man who has raised this accusation."
mircea_popescu: but all the pretense that "today matters -- after all i was born", as if this isn't well settled 2014 fare, and http://trilema.com/2014/an-era-ends-today-a-new-era-starts-today/ never occured, and so on... he's really REALLY late to the max keiser show.
mircea_popescu very much will refuse to consider random fucktards who spent 2012 going "oh, who pays for mpex seats" in the hope that "hey, i'll weasel my way back in through peripheral commentary anyway" ☟︎
asciilifeform: i had this vague memory that he used to write about physics
mircea_popescu: asciilifeform http://trilema.com/2014/ron-maimon-lubos-motl-and-other-internet-things-i-hear-of-today-for-the-very-first-time/ ?
asciilifeform: from his commentreplies, also gold, e.g. '...People who despise Western national fiat currencies are dirty fucked-up commies of the same kind that has plundered my country. I just won't ever support their goal, they're scum for me. Do you get it? Relatively to these important things, whether the replacement is called Ripple or Rouble is just a technicality. It's the same shit except that rouble actually works as a viable currency for
asciilifeform: 'The ISPs and commercial banks are parts of the capitalist economy and a systemic attack against them is obviously a systemic attack against capitalism – real-world capitalism – as such. Maybe it's because my position in the formative years – I considered myself a builder of the new capitalist economy including the old-fashioned brick-and-mortar commercial banks – but I just wouldn't hesitate for a second whom I root for in t
asciilifeform: in other folx who apparently had gone fullbore usgtard since i last looked : lubos motl. e.g. https://motls.blogspot.com/2018/01/korean-backlash-to-planned-bitcoin.html . ☟︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-17 21:41 asciilifeform: 'Cyber space is an increasingly risky discourse and therefore will inevitably be securitised.' << exactly what i said: usg stuffed shirt.
asciilifeform: ( and yes i have a manometer , and one of those small pumps )
mircea_popescu: i want 200km pitstops for the car like i want fat old women in my livingroom.
mircea_popescu: ill get tubes in whatever the fuck i fucking want them. but yes, they try not to sell them anymore.
mircea_popescu: did i at some point know what larping means ?
mircea_popescu: and what people who aren't imperial majesties themselves will do i have nfi.
mircea_popescu: anyway, i ordered the creation of special proper tyres for myself only. and it shall be done.
asciilifeform: i'ma come back to this item when trinquetronic v is available
a111: Logged on 2018-01-17 20:14 asciilifeform: apeloyee: look at the trb tree, and picture what the mass of the patches would have been, if this requirement had been in effect when i made it.
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-17#1771985 << i don't understand where the extra mass comes from iyo. in the trinque solution, one extra file'd have been gaining a total of count-patches lines. ook ? ☝︎
a111: Logged on 2018-01-17 20:13 apeloyee: I proposed being able to name arbitrary required antecedents << also probably needs a mechanism to declare "there are no other files in the tree"
mircea_popescu: http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-17#1771980 << fine example of the context problem. "yes, i have the chip" "so what can you do ?" "nothing." ☝︎
asciilifeform: i dunno if anyone alive today knows what actual j00z looked like.
mircea_popescu: i'm telling you, cruise is jewsanity.
asciilifeform: i ain't got a better one. it'd make sense.
asciilifeform: i could even see the appeal if the plane were e.g. a mig, and does immelmans.
asciilifeform: i respect folx who do honest work, even on particle zoos. just as i respect that cataloguers of rare birds in the jungle ; it is not a wholly pointless thing. but it is not comparable to heaviside, who walked into a room with 22 equations and came out with 4.
asciilifeform: i'll give concrete example. :
asciilifeform: consider every other week somebody shows up with 'i have gnat 2014 and...'
asciilifeform: upstack re the impossibility of translating the safety of an ada program's nearby-modifications-phasespace to c -- i suspect that mircea_popescu's thesis re 'files are not separate units' not only is troo, but does not go far enuff :
asciilifeform: i must've missed this memo.
asciilifeform: and incidentally whenever i translate something to engl , from ~anything else, ~same flavour.
asciilifeform: i'm pretty curious nao what this looks like in typical practice
mircea_popescu: i can't be the only one who translates code as a routine attempt at understanding wtf.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: which is why i won't touch concepts-paternity.
asciilifeform: which i am satisfied performs the requisite diff and comes up with the expected answer.
mircea_popescu: suppose yet another one takes your thing, fixes a bug, and says "this genesis also includes exactly alf's thing verbatim, except for this subtle bug i fixed". thereby... these are different, yes ?
asciilifeform: how many time do i gotta say it, i do not ask for a concepts-v.
asciilifeform: and i will say, ftr, that invocation of ANY ffa components on ANY overlapping segments, is an abuse. and there is not in fact any way to guarantee correctness , if such a thing is permissible.
asciilifeform: hence why i sign the whole, and not 'routine'
asciilifeform: as i said to apeloyee, in NO case can it be guaranteed that the parts cannot be cut up and re-sewn into a subtly broken shape.
asciilifeform: i'll repeat, i do not ask for a v that understands 'essences' or makes any such attempt.
mircea_popescu: so then you propose the xor variable flip was invented by whom ? what tree do i import when i do it ?
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: observe that i did not ask for a v that deals in ~concepts~, only mechanisms.
asciilifeform: i do not understand why histories ever must be flattened.
asciilifeform: no but i like the image of literal wall-o-cunt, lol
asciilifeform: what i want is more modest thing -- to know who made a particular change. in all cases.
asciilifeform: the idea is to expunge anyone who so much as shows a hint of 'i merely work here', as an unreliable element.
mircea_popescu: how about this "mechanical borrowing" system you proposes ACTUALLY weakens responsibility, because the 15, instead of taking seriously their true deed, which IS in fact authorship-indistinguishable, rather aim to hide behind a claim of "hey, we merely work here, signing signatures" a sort of "well i really wanted to X and the only part Y available was Koch's so don't blame me"
asciilifeform: i'm unaware of any muddle re whodunit in systemdism
mircea_popescu: leaving aside the problem of time in this system, which promises to be gnarly (time where ?), would it TRULY make you feel better about systemd if the blond schmuck whose name i forget claimed alien possession ?
asciilifeform: mr.x signed 'i wrote ....' , 15 checkists signed 'i witness thereby that mr.x last night had wrote...'
asciilifeform: i'd rather have 1 usg head and 15 living friends.
mircea_popescu: i will not care one wit whether author of package i use copied or wrote offending bit. signed it -- that's that.
asciilifeform: this is the part i dunget.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-17 19:35 asciilifeform: apeloyee: see the quite 'flammable' log from that thread. i put the burden of correct operation ~100% on the human operator.
a111: Logged on 2018-01-18 20:07 mircea_popescu: asciilifeform quite evident ; but yes, i believe wrong problem to solve. "oh lord, how could bits of code have an identity ?" "why ?" "so they could be my girflriends" "Come on!"
asciilifeform: i'd like to revisit upstack , http://btcbase.org/log/2018-01-18#1772421 << this is somewhat of a misconception. asciilifeform did not salivate over a 'programmer's paradise' when wrote v. on the contrary. v , as he pictured it, is a weapon of rodenticidal war. specifically to ferret out and neutralize not only the compromised people, but the politically unreliable and the dubious of whatever type. hence the focus on attribution, and ☝︎
asciilifeform: at the same time i dun think that i actually disagree with mircea_popescu re the granularity. we don't have the tech to make granularity 'at procedure level' work.
asciilifeform: the only thing it's got, is the deltas. and i can't see why they shouldn't 'go back to moses' if this is physically possible.
asciilifeform: i'ma approach from different angle : mircea_popescu , what do you think is the advantage of v over mere pile of signed tars ?
mircea_popescu: but this happens all the fucking time right here, too! take the... well i can't fucking find it now, but there's a line in the log where phf goes "hey, your trying to do the mp rant comes out short, you;'re not mp". why the fuck not! had all the bits!!1
mircea_popescu: if i say it -- it's a thing. if not.. hurr.