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asciilifeform: just about errything that doesn't abuse some glibc-specific knob, runs 100% under muslism ( e.g. trb, which was the first proggy i personally built for musl, back in the http://therealbitcoin.org/ml/btc-dev/2015-July/000133.html days )
asciilifeform: diana_coman: can, with certain known exceptions ( emacs, mainly , per http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-19#1827118 thrd ) ☝︎
asciilifeform: right
asciilifeform: ( there may be a pill to work around this, but i do not currently know it )
asciilifeform: re linkers, musl lib can only be linked with other musl libs, but prolly diana_coman already knew this.
asciilifeform: aa ok
asciilifeform: ( eulora-particular ? or issue with ave1's gnat..? )
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu, diana_coman which linking issues ?
asciilifeform: it will be getting the asciilifeform-baked trad gentoo, from same tar.gz as dulap and orig s.mg.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: and the usb boot stick.
asciilifeform: BingoBoingo: plox to connect ipkvm device also then
asciilifeform: sure
asciilifeform: diana_coman: will you be installing cuntoo ?
asciilifeform: aite
asciilifeform: iirc that one has raid10 with 1 hot spare.
asciilifeform: diana_coman: plox to gpggram BingoBoingo re necessary qty of FGs, the raid geometry to use ( 5? 10? ) , necessary # of nic connections, he will bring up the box.
asciilifeform: aha
asciilifeform: ram-heavy, isnit.
asciilifeform: aa
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: out of curiosity, was the initial test of adatronic serv on rockchip ? how did it perform ?
asciilifeform: i delivered also its raid card, it is currently in its crate, in the bilge.
asciilifeform: s.mg spare ? should be ready to roll, disks in, etc. possibly will need FGation.
asciilifeform: aaa
asciilifeform: hm?
asciilifeform: FundsAreSafuh: which things ?
asciilifeform: easy chump pickings ? that's three doors down
asciilifeform: gotta admit, FundsAreSafuh , i'm quite curious re what you are hoping to find here.
asciilifeform: FundsAreSafuh: lol, so accomplice of famous bamboozler, living off spoils ??
asciilifeform: e.g. 'i am a chimney sweep from calcutta, and i break nsa block ciphers in spare time' , format.
asciilifeform: not having been a reader of tardstalk, asciilifeform does not know who is FundsAreSafuh . care to introduce yourself ?
asciilifeform: FundsAreSafuh: do also make use of the search box.
asciilifeform: FundsAreSafuh: you won't win much from plain lurking, i recommend to read the logs, http://btcbase.org/log/
asciilifeform: FundsAreSafuh: can i presume you read the logs ?
asciilifeform: FundsAreSafuh: who are you, and what brings you to #trilema ?
asciilifeform: FundsAreSafuh: hello ?
asciilifeform: !!up FundsAreSafuh
asciilifeform: potentially interesting, to n00bz, old emacs-decay thread : http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-22#1455017 ☝︎
asciilifeform: mega-toy
asciilifeform: mine was definitely from ddr
asciilifeform: yes indeed
asciilifeform: aha i think we had same item
asciilifeform: was fun also to make 'hill' and 'discover' conservation of energy etc
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: yes!
asciilifeform: ben_vulpes: aa, so you get flown, lol
asciilifeform: oh hey ben_vulpes flies nao ?
asciilifeform: oh hey i had phf 's train. aaand the... abusable.. transformer, of course
asciilifeform bbl,meat
asciilifeform: ( this is sorta the leitmotif of asciilifeform's crackpottery . )
asciilifeform: the interesting twist is, even on comparatively deadly simple artificial comp, with 0 pretenses to 'conscious' anyffing, the notion that the soft is fully separable from the iron substrate, is poppycock.
asciilifeform: it's a phlogiston.
asciilifeform: aaha
asciilifeform: pretty much guarantee of dead-end snore
asciilifeform: it's come to where asciilifeform reads 'consciousness' and 'reaches for pistol'
asciilifeform: ^ them
asciilifeform: !#s lesswrong
asciilifeform: esthlos: i do not know whether egan knows this, but buncha doped californirasts took his 'software souls' thing and turned it into a religion, of sorts
asciilifeform: esthlos: d00d was sorta obsessed with this notion. he had another, earlier short story where mob boss is walking a schmuck into the forest to be shot, and tells him this yarn, and offers him a magic pill that will make it sink into his head, and ends up taking it himself, and eating own pistol
asciilifeform: after he switched to oddball 'posthumans' became snoar
asciilifeform: esthlos: iirc it was among his last readable items
asciilifeform: esthlos: sure
asciilifeform: http://letstalkstory.com/readme/The%20Diamond%20Age.pdf >> http://p.bvulpes.com/pastes/8IcZb/?raw=true << 313337 w4r3z
asciilifeform: lol
asciilifeform: the old midas touch story, better still.
asciilifeform: esthlos: fwiw i read it, pretty lulzy 'magic sword' trope.
asciilifeform: 'it will be greatest education device!' 'people can watch great theatre!'
asciilifeform: believe or not, this was a nearly exact replay of almost identical nonsense surrounding introduction of tv
asciilifeform: phf: picture if it had been buildable then. then alankay could be sad and go to the bottle 40 yrs earlier, because 'this is not what i wanted, ended up ipad'
asciilifeform: at one time, in '70s, there was this crackpottery, 'programming will be like literacy, EVERYONE!11 will know it'. turns out -- troo! with the tidbit that it is ~exactly~ like actual literacy, and scarcely exists, and not 1 in 500 is physiologically capable of it
asciilifeform: http://btcbase.org/log/2017-12-18#1753348 ☝︎
asciilifeform: we definitely had the alan kay thread
asciilifeform: esthlos: i visited my local one, it is of that type.
asciilifeform: esthlos: they only ever built it in the '1 chip at a time with slave labour and oh most of'em dun actually work' sense.
asciilifeform: mircea_popescu: http://pbfcomics.com/comics/shocked/ << oblig
asciilifeform: there's a fab in usa where, believe or not, they still make 2um classics like cdp1802 for usg. but they dun take walkins. ☟︎
asciilifeform: esthlos: one of the yet-uncured ills is that you cannot actually pay to have a 1980s cpu made, at the current houses, all they offer is 'download this winblowz crapola and use our 60nm standard cells and oh here sign nda for whole thing'
asciilifeform: esthlos: i recommend to read whole set of search output earlier, as part of your log eating , there was even an instance where asciilifeform went and got actual quotes from small fab houses
asciilifeform: esthlos: http://btcbase.org/log/2016-04-22#1455187 << e.g. fab thread. ☝︎
asciilifeform: virtually all.
asciilifeform: if you can build equiv of, say, dec vax ( as su , in its last yrs of life, did ) you have something like fab-sovereignty.
asciilifeform: esthlos: the saving grace is that, outside of several very particular 'arms race' applications (e.g. miner) there is no actual reason to build the low-nm stuff
asciilifeform: !#s from:asciilifeform fab
asciilifeform: esthlos: there were several old threads where the subject of 'what's it cost to bake cpu' is reviewed.
asciilifeform: esthlos: the one piece of iron which was catastrophically absent was rng, and this was fixed
asciilifeform: ergo the keeping of linux, emacs, etc on life support.
asciilifeform: prolly will for foreseeable future.
asciilifeform: esthlos: current-day tmsr mostly runs on vintage iron.
asciilifeform: recall, when nobody of any consequence was using anyffing but own private fork of 0.5 or whichever
asciilifeform: situation quite reminiscent of bitcoin immediately prior to trb
asciilifeform: ( granted, oasis where the giraffes , hippos, shit in the water, but nevertheless surrounded by sand as far as eye can see and quite appealing to the initiated )
asciilifeform: emacs lives on because it is a kind of oasis
asciilifeform: Mocky: because your cad, browser, etc were written by monkeys, evidently
asciilifeform: intensely polarizing item
asciilifeform: Mocky: hence http://btcbase.org/log/2018-06-19#1826943 ☝︎
asciilifeform: who knows, possibly will survive sunspotocalypse etc.
asciilifeform: su-made mil-logic also is pretty tolerant of overvoltage, thermal abuse, etc.
asciilifeform: notbad, for circa-84 or so device.
asciilifeform: some time last yr , asciilifeform , for lulz, stuffed a few units from stash into reader, read. they contained apparently valid z80olade. and, when erased and written to, hold the contents 100% ok
asciilifeform: there's often half a gram of au in these.
asciilifeform: they tend to evaporate from market quickly, gold recyclers hunt'em down.
asciilifeform: ^ good photopr0n