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mircea_popescu: trinque i recall me losing my top over this back in 2013ish or w/e the first time bitcoin-idiocy got in the way of bitbet, being told "oh wait, this is an actual problem - we don'
t resolve problems, we write code here at prb!"
mircea_popescu: "no subway, no travel - i don'
t own a 1/100000 of the 100`000 spare car meta-pool, nor do i have anything to do that'd justify it."
mircea_popescu: in the same vein, mihai margineanu playing atm, just went "whenever you ask a question you don'
t expect answered ; why are you surprised when you get an answer you didn'
t expect".
mircea_popescu: "meanwhile this cock ain'
t gonna rub itself, so here we are".
assbot: Logged on 27-01-2016 00:03:26; mircea_popescu: isn'
t lying fun.
adlai: they were right about killing them! put them out of their fucking misery, can'
t you hear it in their "bushels of flax"
mircea_popescu: i'm not sure there exists but i'm sure i don'
t know anything more offensive than the precious derpage in the eastern tradition.
mircea_popescu: adlai can'
t propose weird stances for mp to have taken in the past and then crap out on the documentation.
adlai: the child should have been spanked! you don'
t just go around letting your kids kill things, without a little flick on the butt
assbot: Logged on 16-03-2016 11:50:11; mircea_popescu: kakobrekla and at any point prior to march 2016 i would have readily believed that. now however, is simply something i can'
t discern.
mircea_popescu: (and to cap that story - yea the adults expressed outrage ["how could you do that!"] but no, he wasn'
t punished, because no there was no offense, and the father(s) wouldn'
t have it, or generally let the women run amok with their nonsense. so hurray for patriarchy or whatever, boo the psychopaths of this world!)
mircea_popescu: school hadn'
t yet started, so we were prolly 6 or so. but this was a rare concept even at that age.
mircea_popescu: some younger kid that didn'
t have one wanted to play with his, this guy would have none of it, eventually some adult intervened to make him share
mircea_popescu: mortals ain'
t pulling any pins, you see. so yea, "anyonecandoit".
mircea_popescu: i did build and burn a number of fortunes, but in my younger years. nevertheless : you know, peter ALSO didn'
t HAVE TO take the imperial guard with.
mircea_popescu: yes, plenty of folk do. that don'
t work, live, were educated or born in the us.
mircea_popescu: so it is usable by anyone who doesn'
t work, live, was educated or born in the us.
mircea_popescu: so i can'
t compute this like you would. it's silent and cheap, not loud, not costly.
mircea_popescu: (and generally i dunno why this shortcircuit between facts and judgement became fashionable here, seems much too close to the habits of the "independent" demographic for comfort. trust me, if i want to say x i will say it in those exact words, as i have without exception to date. saying i don'
t know x means i do not know. and similarly, here, and so on. i totally can speak for myself, say what i mean etc.)
adlai: asciilifeform: it's an idea because it means that the "#b-a fork" isn'
t a hard-fork that can fail.
mircea_popescu: can'
t make this sorta judgements on the basis of fucking copywriting.
thestringpuller: i like how bitcoin mining manufacturers don'
t even shy away about it: "this is the most powerful miner available to ~the public~" what miners are available to the private?
adlai: which is possible to launch as a miner-only fork, which nodes can choose to enforce, but don'
t have to; and then at some later date, all nodes enforce it, and miners know they must keep enforcing it, too.
adlai: ie, only miners ~must~ enforce it; once nodes also do, it hardens, and then miners can'
t choose to reverse the previously-soft fork.
adlai: ok, i also like that idea, although as you said yourself, it's not fully baked yet. i also like that it can be initially opt-in, with an ultimatum that it gets 'hardened' by some date, if it hasn'
t 'softened' by then.
adlai: but i don'
t think trb should initiate a fork.
mircea_popescu: there's a difference between "i know x" and "i don'
t know x".
mircea_popescu: kakobrekla and at any point prior to march 2016 i would have readily believed that. now however, is simply something i can'
t discern.
☟︎ adlai: asciilifeform: i can'
t find this article. do you mean the "necessary prerequisite" one?
mircea_popescu: HOWEVER we didn'
t, because hey, maybe they do somethign good
thestringpuller: mircea_popescu: i guess let them live in ignorance as long as said ignorance doesn'
t interfere with the adults?
thestringpuller: ;;later tell asciilifeform Finally experienced the stuck node thing. Interesting behavior. Wouldn'
t even accept the "stop" command. Had to kill -9 it.
mircea_popescu: adlai i don'
t see the problem with this objection ? "they are. that's what i'm telling you. you don'
t use greek bronze weights, do you ?"
adlai tried explaining bitcoin to a flatmate, seven different ways. each time explanation was met with "why can'
t people just use money". known idiot is now a former-flatmate.
thestringpuller: reminds me of conversation I had with CVS cashier. dude was fresh out of high school and I began explaining how banks worked cause I was furious the ATM fees were 5 bucks in that store. anyhow after 5 minutes of confusion cause kid didn'
t pay attention in school states, "I ain'
t trynna think that hard man. I'm done with school."
mircea_popescu: what you shouldn'
t do is up known idiots, but few resist the temptation.
mircea_popescu: thestringpuller yes, but they don'
t come with their own home fucking computers.
mircea_popescu: which, ungenerously enough, seems just a step away from the breakdown specific to shitholes like argentina, where people altogether don'
t even comprehend words are in any sense meaningful, above and beyond the chirping captive populations of chickens do to reassure each other.
☟︎ mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=16-03-2016#1433659 << i dunno why you think this odd. as far as my experience goes, 100% of english language literature (long before the days orwell quit and his naive, square jawed colonial subjects took over the pretense of empire) is exactly this "here are our assumptions, which clearly paint us as utterly and hopelessly stupid, let's lampshade it and carry on". i don'
t think by n
☝︎ adlai hasn'
t even started yet!
mircea_popescu: ben_vulpes ok but i don'
t get what you're saying here.
mircea_popescu just watched the velocity of gary, holy shit she has no problems regular whippings wouldn'
t have fixed long ago.
BingoBoingo: Oh, crap! I didn'
t realize I'd become muslim
mircea_popescu: it's only THEM that don'
t get along, it's not about him.
mircea_popescu: BingoBoingo incidentally, since you're maybe the only guy here that actually gas re us politics : admitting for the sake of this argument that trump really is the you know, tell-it-how-it-is, fight back against the system independent bla bla : what does the fact that he isn'
t making "electronic votes are not a sufficient way to settle this election" a central part of his campaign ?
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 13:22:03; mircea_popescu: in the "i bet you don'
t understand what the bayesian approach to spam filtering turned into pretend-ai after its failure to filter spam" means for your country : the next step is for most all the jobs that are still left to be replaced by this kind of ai - it's cheaper. so you go to the hair salon and you get a hairdo - 80% of the time. hey, accidents happen, here's a free coupon for another one. and
mircea_popescu: obviously, you won'
t be having any money at all to pay for anything at all on the grounds of not being born rich and there not being any further jobs at all; but whatevs, the consumer has got what it came to expect.
mircea_popescu: in the "i bet you don'
t understand what the bayesian approach to spam filtering turned into pretend-ai after its failure to filter spam" means for your country : the next step is for most all the jobs that are still left to be replaced by this kind of ai - it's cheaper. so you go to the hair salon and you get a hairdo - 80% of the time. hey, accidents happen, here's a free coupon for another one. and yes, you want a we
☟︎ nubbins`: i think he got mad because a bunch of poor renters who don'
t own computers weren'
t able to find the time to get on irc, find #b-a, take a photograph of themselves holding a sign, set up a btc wallet, &c &c &c &c &c
cazalla: did you mention this earlier? don'
t recall reading it in logs
assbot: Logged on 15-03-2016 03:21:23; mircea_popescu: hanbot the problem with your take on what's reasonable is that the other reasonable view is to simply say that everything's fine, nothing's wrong and there isn'
t nor could ever be any cause for expenditure, alarm or ultimately death. in principle this is a view that can not be dislodged, every living thing's expectation to live forever in a functional world is, misguided or not, nevertheless part and
nubbins`:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432301 << i also didn'
t think it was a worthwhile conversation to have, but i wasn'
t about to just watch mp make the ludicrous claim that bitcoin has been forked by a chinese mining cabal, ostensibly with the intention of tranferring all the suckers in this chan over to MPCoin, just because his 0-fee tx got bogged down.
☝︎ nubbins`: phf: "solicited a judge from the wot" is meaningless, unless you know something i don'
t.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 16:33:26; phf: nubbins`: it's a shame that you chose this approach for your denouncement. some people are here (myself, maybe ascii) not to make money, but to fuck around with novel ways of doing things. it would've been nifty if, as a "lord" if you will, you picked up the game and made your accusations formal, maybe solicited a judge from the wot, made it interesting somehow! you don'
t have to obviously, but the approach tha
ben_vulpes: you don'
t *have* to do /anything/, mircea_popescu!
mircea_popescu: ("but hey mp, you should have moved bitbet to this or something!" "yes yes, aren'
t you a great visionary, man from the future.")
phf: ben_vulpes: you can'
t trick me, i've been to portland, and i gotta tell ya, there's not much starving going on there
ben_vulpes: "great idea! i guess we don'
t need any custom software after all."
ben_vulpes: "are you sure you wouldn'
t rather secure a loan with that 50k and set up a shop on squarespace?"
ben_vulpes: phf: that's an advantage. i can'
t fleece people effectively with software, being too honest.
phf: ben_vulpes: i suspect they don'
t know what they are doing
mircea_popescu: hanbot the problem with your take on what's reasonable is that the other reasonable view is to simply say that everything's fine, nothing's wrong and there isn'
t nor could ever be any cause for expenditure, alarm or ultimately death. in principle this is a view that can not be dislodged, every living thing's expectation to live forever in a functional world is, misguided or not, nevertheless part and parcel of biology.
☟︎ hanbot:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432955 << not to get ahead of myself with you guys, but it seems to me that if these 17 btc were in fact the problem, then you acted reasonably by refusing to sign...whereas if a putative, later loss was the real problem here, a more reasonable approach might've been to sign this report, and work together to ensure that there won'
t be such a further monster.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: no, bitbet was, at least the first incarnation, shivad together by kakobrekla in... whatr was it, two weeks or something, i don'
t recall exactly.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 22:22:18; phf: but as an advertisement platform for mpex and steady stream of income for investors i don'
t see ~anything~ wrong with bitbet. my current interpretation is that a lot of various people overreacted and a sure thing was killed.
assbot: Logged on 14-03-2016 21:26:03; phf: jurov: you're right, there's not much that can be done as far as bickering. i find some of the positions rather petty or outright alarmist, but i can'
t keep people from talking. i'm only thinking that an arbitration procedure could produce tldr that at the very least will focus the attention.
mircea_popescu:
http://log.bitcoin-assets.com/?date=14-03-2016#1432824 << suppose instead of runnign off to some sort of centralism, you just use the tools available ? they're here for this purpose ; you've seen them at work. gossipd didn'
t come out of the void, but out of practice based on philosophy honed with practice built on philosophy and so on and again numerous iterations over the years.
☝︎ mircea_popescu: (none of this is to say that one ~oughtn'
t~ try. sure, one ought to try. but also understand that this is exactly like "one ought to try and fuck every woman that can walk within his visual radius". in a veeeheheheheeery theoretical principle, sure. in practice - there is such a thing as penis friction blisters.)
mircea_popescu: one should prolly look through eulora logs for some lulzy examples re the failure of the auction - the free market's revered, holy relic of a chief tool. guess what ? it... doesn'
t work!
mircea_popescu: because yes, the thing as it worked is STILL a major improvement over traditional gambling anything, and there's no sane reason i could possibly see that bitbet wouldn'
t carry a majority of the world's 10bn to 1 trn dollars worth of yearly prop betting.
mircea_popescu: it STILL boggles my mind that this was the case ; but the case it was. and weren'
t it the case - bitbet'd be to this day and forever swimming in a pool of dough.
mircea_popescu: i'm aware that they do these weird "can'
t throw X people off premises" in the us, but the excision of that sort of nonsense is no small part of what tmsr is all about.
mircea_popescu: a judge may decide what a contract means if there's dispute between the parties, which here is what the [judge] sindic aka receiver is going to do anyway. other than that - he can'
t order for "the world" to satisfy any party's perceived comfort, no matter how dressed up.
mircea_popescu: anyway - i appreciate your offer to help, and i don'
t think it can be summarily dismissed. it has its obvious weaknesses which you may consider improving.
mircea_popescu: a wife but stuck with one that actually owns him. third options aren'
t really very easily accessible. so - no, don'
t make that assumption, it'll run you to ruin.